Do you eat normal?
What is normal?
Meat and two veg?
Vegan?
What's normal for you tastes awful and is poison to others!
It's not normal you need to understand, it is what is healthy for that individual!
Normal does not mean healthy!
Are you writing a book? A blog? Are you using this forum for book fodder?Sorry for any misinterpretation.. earlier I was told I couldn't know anytbjng about xyz because I don't have xyz.
The piece I'm writing isn't for diabetics ..
Just lazy bodybuilders like myself.. but it may have a chapter now.. who knows.. I'm learning a lot..
I did not follow any programme, I did lots of research, and cut out junk, sugar, white flour products, etc.. and was just eating simple food like mixed veg with chicken or soya product, and made sure I did a minimum of 30 minutes of exercise per day, but looking back I did go OTT on the exercise, as some days the burn rate was well over 2000kcal. So I was burning more than I was eating. I was very determined and focused.
You do realise that fasting is a severe calorie restriction which messes up some people metabolism, dont you?have you tried fasting?
That's why I find it very strange when posters seem to argue using reductio ad absurdum, and constantly claim
'you can't live on 800 calories forever' er, no, you don't need to, it's an 8 week diet
or 'you can't eat like you did before' er no, I ate as much as the rest of the family put together, the diet resets eating habits.
From the comments in this thread, while rapid weight loss certainly isn't for everyone it seems, it does seem effective to aid the reversal of diabetes, and it seems those who have reversed it can indeed eat a normal diet again.
A bit of a rant perhaps?
That's the difference, you seem to be dismissing food as 'poison', because in some way you decided you personally don't eat it.
'Normal'? well, sorry, we can eat everything on your list.
You are welcome to pick and choose, but please don't rant at me about your choice.
(As has been asked by other posters
Are you T2?)
Not a rant!
Just stating the obvious!
If a type of normal food has an adverse effect on your blood glucose levels and of course makes you more unhealthy, then that food is not to be eaten!
Poison is too strong a word, but it certainly made you take note.
Food can be a poison though!
It all depends on how much of a poison you ingest that will harm you! Too little and no effect, high could be fatal!
When you have food intolerance, then certain foods act like poison. It all depends!
No I don't have T2!
I am classified as non diabetic!
We have our own forum, why don't you learn about a very rare condition, that has food impacts on myself and others like myself!
But I did get misdiagnosed T2, the wife has T2, and doing well controlling it!
The FiL has it among everything else!
My brother died of a massive heart attack, he had T2 bad!
I have 9000 posts and many more rewards on this forum, never before been banned, helped many hundreds understand what diabetes does and how you can live a normal, no, scrub that, healthy longer life!
Now, that's a rant!
Best wishes @douglas99.
for me, eating as i did before was a reasonable amount, around 1800 cals a day, but with too many carbs. I suspect this is true of several others.
most of my weight (except a couple of stones) was due to long term medication, not food consumption. But the food I did consume was high in carbs, on the advice of my doctor......................and i have since found out that the medication I was on is know to have raised blood sugar levels as a side effect. Double whammy.It depends on how obese you were on those calories.
It took twice that many for me, but I got there eventually.
It's not ironic nor is it correct what you are saying!
He is advocating with his first few posts that there is a cure and why aren't we using it?
He has admittedly, adjusted his position, but the thread starter is enough to annoy some of the more knowledgeable posters on this forum, who have had great success including yourself in advising how to individually tailor a low carb lifestyle, which is only a part of how they became healthier.
Please read some of the RH forum, you will see what we have to do to avoid being ill!
It may enlighten you to my stance on how best to control my condition!
Weight lifting or any form of strenuous exercise would make me ill. The reason is simple, my liver would supply me with glucose from glucogenesis to offset the rapid rate my heart would race, the excess glucose would offset and trigger an insulin response, it would also be excessive and flood my bloodstream with too much insulin.
The after effects would be horrible, and a hypo in the end!
I don't need or want to go through that again!
There again you are wrong, it can and does work for other conditions but only as part of the lifestyle change.I think it only works for T2, I don't think he suggested you should do it if you're not?
It is posted on the type 2 forum, so it's not really applicable to other forums I would have thought?
Although I could understand your indignation if he had posted on there as a type 2, or not, and told you what could and couldn't work for us, rather than for you.
@Lamont D and @douglas99 , if you want to discuss ND for other conditions, please create a new thread and do so there.
Would that not exclude the OP?No, I agree with you, let's keep the thread on track for type 2 members.
Well said!
Would that not exclude the OP?
You said this thread, not this forum.I doubt it.
Ask admin how exclusive you need the forum to be?
A lot of guru's would be out though?
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