Sure would. I do my ten minutes of high intensity (well, highish!) on a machine and it's worth 2 mmols on my BG reading. By the way Choco, your new avatar looks like the scene outside my hotel bedroom window - just saying......chocoholicnomore said:Would running up and down the stairs at home work?
chocoholicnomore said:Thanks Grazer. Am so jealous.
Hope you are having a great time. Been missing you.
viviennem said:Defren, I think it's really worth giving it a go with your exercise bike. My version of a 20-second HIT burst is laughable in comparison to a thin, fit person's, but I am finding that my 15 minutes on the bike, with 3 wimpish 20-sec bursts evenly spaced within it, is really helping my leg muscles. Even getting up from gardening (I weed sitting down for as far as I can reach - even flat on my stomach sometimes :lol: ) is getting easier.
I'm trying to learn to fidget too.
Viv 8)
PS Thanks for the advice, CatherineCherub - I'm reluctant to push myself too hard because I think even my heart must need to re-train. I'm coming back down from 135bpm quite quickly (6 seconds?) which I hope is reasonably okay.
Defren said:viviennem said:Defren, I think it's really worth giving it a go with your exercise bike. My version of a 20-second HIT burst is laughable in comparison to a thin, fit person's, but I am finding that my 15 minutes on the bike, with 3 wimpish 20-sec bursts evenly spaced within it, is really helping my leg muscles. Even getting up from gardening (I weed sitting down for as far as I can reach - even flat on my stomach sometimes :lol: ) is getting easier.
I'm trying to learn to fidget too.
Viv 8)
PS Thanks for the advice, CatherineCherub - I'm reluctant to push myself too hard because I think even my heart must need to re-train. I'm coming back down from 135bpm quite quickly (6 seconds?) which I hope is reasonably okay.
Oh dear Viv, I have a feeling we could laugh together :lol: Firstly I struggle to get on the darn bike, and then I can very gentle pedal for the shortest time. I do wonder if I did it daily, I could build it up. It wouldn't do any harm if I were very careful, and who knows, I may find a little more ease in my legs, that would be such a bonus. Now to try to get the thing out of the shed :mrgreen:
Jeannemum said:Defren said:viviennem said:Defren, I think it's really worth giving it a go with your exercise bike. My version of a 20-second HIT burst is laughable in comparison to a thin, fit person's, but I am finding that my 15 minutes on the bike, with 3 wimpish 20-sec bursts evenly spaced within it, is really helping my leg muscles. Even getting up from gardening (I weed sitting down for as far as I can reach - even flat on my stomach sometimes :lol: ) is getting easier.
I'm trying to learn to fidget too.
Viv 8)
PS Thanks for the advice, CatherineCherub - I'm reluctant to push myself too hard because I think even my heart must need to re-train. I'm coming back down from 135bpm quite quickly (6 seconds?) which I hope is reasonably okay.
Oh dear Viv, I have a feeling we could laugh together :lol: Firstly I struggle to get on the darn bike, and then I can very gentle pedal for the shortest time. I do wonder if I did it daily, I could build it up. It wouldn't do any harm if I were very careful, and who knows, I may find a little more ease in my legs, that would be such a bonus. Now to try to get the thing out of the shed :mrgreen:
Defren. Have you seen that sort of bike thingy you can sit in your chair and pedal? That would be easier than a bike you have to climb on. You don`t need a broken neck on top of everything elsec :silent:
xyzzy said:borofergie said:copepod said:I must admit that my walks, whether for pleasure on when patrolling 1 of 3 country park areas for work, are generally more pleasant when any dogs I meet are well behaved and on leads. While having muddy paw marks down my uniform work trousers is OK, getting muddy paw marks and claw scratches down bare legs when running in shorts or wearing other trousers in definitely not OK!
+1
I know it's only a minority of dog owners, but I run in parks and have to constantly deal with the dual threats of so-called "friendly" unleashed dogs assailing me and dog poo.
Well considering the size of our two dogs we have no option but to always walk them on leads when there are people about and we ALWAYS clear up after them.
I have German Shepherds (one is a cross) but they are off lead as much as possible I wouldn't put there leads on because people were about... Just call them back to my side, the only time I would will put them on lead on a countryside walk, if there's live stock around then I will use a long line, even though I've never had problems with them and live stock before.. Oh yes I also pick up after them, even if I'm in the middle of nowhere on the hills, it's picked up and transported home hanging on my tow bar..
When you own large dogs you very quickly find two things. First your dogs are always in the wrong even if it's some other unleashed and uncontrolled dog that has run over and is now hanging off your dogs face. Both our dogs react the same way to other dogs aggression which is to simply push the aggressor away and then sit on them until the other dog behaves itself.
Secondly you get two responses from people. Firstly you get the ones who love them so if we walk them into town we generally get stopped every 100 yards or so and patiently end up answering the same set of questions as the last person asked just a couple of minutes earlier. Secondly you get the ones who cross the road when they see them coming. Oh and the number of times we hear "you could put a saddle on that" is now beyond measure!
GSD's have a negative image with Joe Public, so a lot of negative remarks I've got a thick skin where insults are concerned, but when you try to attack my dog (Ellie been attacked twice now) it's my aggression you ned to be concerned about, Ellie won't respond but I will...
One of our closest friends in one of the UK top dog behaviourists. She says dogs get their most mental stimulation from just being allowed to walk and sniff things. It is a very stimulating activity for a dog and you will find that dogs who are allowed to do this natural doggie behaviour can arrive home just as tired out from all the mental processing as those dogs who are running around beserkly but of course they won't end up as super fit!
Dogs do like to run and chase balls and things but you need to be careful not to do it too much, especially if you have a large or powerful dog as the act of chasing is mentally putting the dog into "hunting" mode. Dogs can get psychologically addicted to the adrenalin rush they get from chasing things. It's when dogs are in this excited state from chasing or the similar state they get into if you wrestle with them that the hunting instinct can turn into something far more dangerous if its a powerful dog. Do you really want to be sharing your home with a super fit adrenalin addict?
Sorry but you've got your theory about 'hunting mode' wrong... Whether a problems will happen will be based on the dogs prey drive and whether they have been correctly socialised with other dogs not based on how much ball games or chase games they may play or not.... Even with a high prey dog you've got to train it to attack, unless it's got fear aggression when it will attack out of sheer fear.
Of course the majority of dogs are fine but the next time you hear on the news about a dog attacking a child or similar and having to be put down you'd be surprised how many of those dogs were just friendly everyday dogs who got out hand when they were being wrestled with or were in a very excited state from chasing things. The breed of dog also does not make as much difference as many people think.
Again wrong, most dogs attack out of fear, or that the human involved haven't left it alone when it gave all the warning signs, and even an perceived unprovoked attacked is often based around that several factors, owners actions stops the dog from giving the warnings or it's being touched at a painful spot.
The instinct a dog has to roll in things is to take an interesting smell back home with them so that they can savour it later and share it with other pack members. I positively encourage one of my dogs to have a good roll (obviously not in mud or poo!) as it relaxes her and keeps her calm both on her walks and back at home while she "processes" what she did on her walk.
Not all dogs roll, and it's more to do with masking their own smell than it is to do with taking him to enjoy latter.
If you go into someone's house or meet someones dog in the street and it starts to jump up and hassle you just turn your back on them and don't say a word. If you're in someones house and are sitting down if the dog is hassling you firmly push it away, don't say a word and don't make eye contact. Depending on the size of the dog you may need to stand up and firmly push it away. When and only when the dog has gone away and laid down call it over to you and calmly say hello, not too much and for only a very short time then send it away again. If you do that the dog will view you with respect. All the dog is doing when it hassles you is saying "Look at me I'm very important much more important than you so you'd better make a fuss of me now mere human"
Yes if a dog jumps up at you, best to pull your arms in, turn you back on them and ignore.. But if you are sitting then the last thing you should do is push them away from you as this is interacting with them, they will see this as a game... You just stand up and ignore them, if necessary turn your back on them.
Again wrong, most dogs attack out of fear, or that the human involved haven't left it alone when it gave all the warning signs, and even an perceived unprovoked attacked is often based around that several factors, owners actions stops the dog from giving the warnings or it's being touched at a painful spot.
I have German Shepherds (one is a cross) but they are off lead as much as possible I wouldn't put there leads on because people were about... Just call them back to my side, the only time I would will put them on lead on a countryside walk, if there's live stock around then I will use a long line, even though I've never had problems with them and live stock before.. Oh yes I also pick up after them, even if I'm in the middle of nowhere on the hills, it's picked up and transported home hanging on my tow bar..
phoenix said:Defren, there are also recumbent exercise bikes that get over that problem but they take up quite a bit of room. ( I've just looked and there are also quite a lot on EBay, results of failed new year resolutions? )
didie said:Again wrong, most dogs attack out of fear, or that the human involved haven't left it alone when it gave all the warning signs, and even an perceived unprovoked attacked is often based around that several factors, owners actions stops the dog from giving the warnings or it's being touched at a painful spot.
Well my daughter was attacked by a West Highland White when she was 4 years old in a completely unprovoked attack. She was just sitting. She didn't provoke the dog at all. I was there with her. My children were both taught from an early age never to fuss or provoke dogs. Her face was ripped open and she had to have plastic surgery and she still carries the scars at the age of 21 years old. It was an absolute nightmare rushing her to the Sick Kids Hospital with skin hanging off her face.
You say that you daughter was just sitting there... She probably inadvertently challenged the dog as I suspect that she was looking straight at the dog which the dog would have seen as a challenge... A dog will either back down or protect itself by attacking. One of the reason children are susceptible to bites is partly due to they tend to be the right height to make a natural eye to eye contact with dogs and they may know not to touch but generally don't understand that a dog will see mere eye contact has a challenge.
I have German Shepherds (one is a cross) but they are off lead as much as possible I wouldn't put there leads on because people were about... Just call them back to my side, the only time I would will put them on lead on a countryside walk, if there's live stock around then I will use a long line, even though I've never had problems with them and live stock before.. Oh yes I also pick up after them, even if I'm in the middle of nowhere on the hills, it's picked up and transported home hanging on my tow bar..
I do have dogs- 2 of them, two collie-crosses and I love them dearly and because of my daughter having been attacked I am very aware of the effect that dogs have on other people. I would never ever want either of my dogs to instill fear in other people, so when we are near people that we don't know and especially if there are children, they are on their leads.
And a dog being on lead doesn't promote fear! My dogs are under my control so don't approach people or children unless invited to do so and with my permission, so unless I'm in particularly crowed area such as a beer garden I see no need to restrict their enjoyment with a lead.
I'll never forget the absolute terror of the dog attack on my daughter and having to drag the dog off her face. It was just one of the worst moments of my life and it made me very aware of the fact that all dogs are wild animals that share our homes. You might think you know your dog, but in fact no-one does really. A dog can just turn and snap. My dogs are fantastic, they are really well trained and totally loveable. They are respected and they have their space but do I trust them 100%? No I don't.
I actually do trust my dogs 100% But I still wouldn't leave a child unsupervised with them
phoenix said:Viv,
135bpm is definitely in the anaerobic zone for you, well done for coming down quickly. but take care.
http://www.dietandfitnessresources.co.u ... hart_w.htm
Defren, there are also recumbent exercise bikes that get over that problem but they take up quite a bit of room. ( I've just looked and there are also quite a lot on EBay, results of failed new year resolutions? )
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