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trying to understand my postprandial pattern and if it’s ok

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GOJIGANG

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Alright, so i’m kind of a health nut. I’m 18, 135lbs (roughly) extensive family history of diabetes, 5.2 A1c, 2.5 insulin, etc etc.

just decided for the hell of it today to check my blood sugar after my breakfast. It’s the same thing everyday. 6 eggs, 1 1/2 cup plain non-fat greek yogurt, a serving of peanut butter, 1 serving of frozen green beans and peas, half a serving of mixed nuts, and even added a salad on the side cause i felt like it today.

Macros are roughly 55g fat, 75g protein, and 30g carbs

I can go hours without feeling hungry after this meal, which I would think is good, but then I tested myself…

45 minutes after the last bite: 87 mg/dL

2 hours after first bite: 92 mg/dL

3 1/2 hours after first bite: 112 mg/dL

4 hours after first bite: 108 mg/dL

the numbers aren’t high and if my peak was higher than 112, I imagine it was 120 max, but I’m worried about the duration of it all. I imagine this long lasting elevation is bad, but the numbers also aren’t high. Can anybody help me please?
 
Ooops don’t know why the chart posted twice,
 
lovinglife said:
Your HbA1c is very much in the none diabetic range, all those numbers are in the optimum or ideal range and very very normal BG numbers see the chart below

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so u wouldn't consider the delayed rise and elevation duration a problem? kinda worried about the 4 hour reading cuz that's when i eat my next meal and it's pretty carby. just kinda worried about eating the next meal while my blood sugar is still above baseline and is just on it's way down.
 
GOJIGANG said:
Alright, so i’m kind of a health nut.
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Please take care of your mental health, tracking macros and testing your bg when there's absoutely nothing wrong with you can be an easy path to an eating disorder.
At 18 years old and with those numbers there is absolutely no reason to suspect you have anything going on at the moment.
GOJIGANG said:
Macros are roughly 55g fat, 75g protein, and 30g carbs
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I see you're in the US. You'll need to subtract fiber from the total carbs to get net carbs (what we call carbs on the other side of the pond, our fibre is listed separately from the carbs).
GOJIGANG said:
extensive family history of diabetes
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What type of diabetes do your family members have, and at what age were they diagnosed?
 
Antje77 said:
Please take care of your mental health, tracking macros and testing your bg when there's absoutely nothing wrong with you can be an easy path to an eating disorder.
At 18 years old and with those numbers there is absolutely no reason to suspect you have anything going on at the moment.

I see you're in the US. You'll need to subtract fiber from the total carbs to get net carbs (what we call carbs on the other side of the pond, our fibre is listed separately from the carbs).

What type of diabetes do your family members have, and at what age were they diagnosed?
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i don't mind tracking macros as i basically eat the same thing things everyday so i know how much of what im getting in roughly

shoulda included it, but the fiber for the meal is 11g and with a salad it's 13. i also eat around 45-50g fiber a day.

dont really know my father and his side of the family, but what i do know is his mother was type 2, my aunt on that side was, and he has been ever since i was just a little kid so maybe 30s-40s? my fathers sisters arent type 2 tho and they're like 40-50 something i think. my late grandfather on my mother's side became one maybe in his 60s.
 
i'm 5'8, 18, 135-140lbs and eating 2500 calories a day. last year when i just sat around all day and had a terrible sleep schedule i was like 140 and maintaining on roughly 2500. certainly more than any calorie calculator gives me as my maintenance.

but yeah, breakfast is a little over 900 calories and i feel satiated by the end of it all. tbh tho i could even eat like 6 more eggs, another serving of peanut butter, and even some chicken with it.

i'm skinny and don't look like i can eat, but u bring me to a buffet and there'll be no more food left to eat lmao


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GOJIGANG said:
dont really know my father and his side of the family, but what i do know is his mother was type 2, my aunt on that side was, and he has been ever since i was just a little kid so maybe 30s-40s? my fathers sisters arent type 2 tho and they're like 40-50 something i think. my late grandfather on my mother's side became one maybe in his 60s.
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This really doesn't sound like an extensive family history, more like a very normal statistics for people who develop diabetes when they grow older.
Nothing here that should make you interested in your blood glucose at your age.
 
Antje77 said:
This really doesn't sound like an extensive family history, more like a very normal statistics for people who develop diabetes when they grow older.
Nothing here that should make you interested in your blood glucose at your age.
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just the fact that it runs in my family is enough for me to try and avoid it more so than anybody who doesn't have a family history.

kinda sucks tho...makes me scared to eat anything more than 2 slices of pizza at once or more than a serving of oats and pasta. having to eat 56g of pasta just makes me sad...and it's chickpea pasta too
 
GOJIGANG said:
just the fact that it runs in my family is enough for me to try and avoid it more so than anybody who doesn't have a family history.

kinda sucks tho...makes me scared to eat anything more than 2 slices of pizza at once or more than a serving of oats and pasta. having to eat 56g of pasta just makes me sad...and it's chickpea pasta too
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Diabetes runs in everyones family, provided there are older relatives. In the US, 11.6% of the population has diabetes (most of them are quite old compared to you) so it doesn't sound like you have a significant family history.
You also don't mention any people under 40 in your family having diabetes, and you are not overweight.

From what you told us there is no reason to expect you have a more than average risk of developing diabetes when you're over 40.
Being scared to eat normal food does sound like you have a more than average risk of developing an eating disorder, and with you classifying yourself as a 'health nut' even more so.

Your anxiety around food and health worries me much more than you maybe, perhaps, developing diabetes in your 40's or 60's.
 
Antje77 said:
Diabetes runs in everyones family, provided there are older relatives. In the US, 11.6% of the population has diabetes (most of them are quite old compared to you) so it doesn't sound like you have a significant family history.
You also don't mention any people under 40 in your family having diabetes, and you are not overweight.

From what you told us there is no reason to expect you have a more than average risk of developing diabetes when you're over 40.
Being scared to eat normal food does sound like you have a more than average risk of developing an eating disorder, and with you classifying yourself as a 'health nut' even more so.

Your anxiety around food and health worries me much more than you maybe, perhaps, developing diabetes in your 40's or 60's.
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now im really confused on what's considered a strong family history...

i know i sound of obsessive...and i guess i kinda am, but i can assure you i'm not losing sleep over this or having really bad anxiety about it.

only thing i really worry about is carb intake. just kinda think if i eat more than 50g of carbs in one meal once in a while it'll affect me when im older
 
GOJIGANG said:
now im really confused on what's considered a strong family history...

i know i sound of obsessive...and i guess i kinda am, but i can assure you i'm not losing sleep over this or having really bad anxiety about it.

only thing i really worry about is carb intake. just kinda think if i eat more than 50g of carbs in one meal once in a while it'll affect me when im older
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You're on a forum for diabetics, checking your numbers. That's at least *some* level of anxiety, right there. Don't get me wrong, you're more than welcome, but like Antje said, it is a slippery slope to an eating disorder.

Basically, if you worry about becoming diabetic sometime in the future, just eat wisely, sensibly, AND live a little. Have the occasional pizza. (Not daily, but.... Pizza!). If I could've talked to myself before diabetes became an issue, I would have had this advice: Up the fats, and cut the carbs when you start seeing belly fat, and for f's sake, have the romantic high tea with your husband at that ballroom you want so bad, because it's not going to happen in your future otherwise. Never thought one of my biggest regrets (there are bigger, more crucial ones, but still), would be missing out on something as seemingly trivial as that. So be sensible about food, but not neurotic. And if you worry about diabetes, just ask your GP for a HbA1c once every few years, keep an eye on things, and then let it go again until the next test. For the moment, you are in the clear, and you are alert for any changes that might occur. And if anything even changes a little bit, you'll be right on top of it before it turns into something, if it even would be inclined to do so.

Be good to yourself. Breathe. Relax. Pizza.
Hugs,
Jo
 
This short and easily understood paper should give you some additional reassurance that for non-diabetic people blood glucose rises after eating as you've reported are completely normal and to be expected.

Continuous Glucose Profiles in Healthy Subjects under Everyday Life Conditions and after Different Meals - PMC

This study investigated continuous glucose profiles in nondiabetic subjects. Continuous interstitial glucose measurement was performed under everyday life conditions (2 days) and after ingestion of four meals with standardized carbohydrate content ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
@GOJIGANG - just one additional point to note - you look like you have your insulin levels measured, so I am going to assume that you understand the connection between insulin, insulin resistance, and T2DM.

The one period of time that every single human being is definitely - and needs to be - insulin resistant; is puberty. We all need to grow rapidly through puberty - and the body must go faster than insulin would normally allow.

So - while I applaud your approach - give yourself a break; the rules on what should be happening with your blood glucose and insulin levels are totally different as an 18 year old - you cannot really take anything useful from what would be appropriate for a forty year old...
 
Chris24Main said:
@GOJIGANG - just one additional point to note - you look like you have your insulin levels measured, so I am going to assume that you understand the connection between insulin, insulin resistance, and T2DM.

The one period of time that every single human being is definitely - and needs to be - insulin resistant; is puberty. We all need to grow rapidly through puberty - and the body must go faster than insulin would normally allow.

So - while I applaud your approach - give yourself a break; the rules on what should be happening with your blood glucose and insulin levels are totally different as an 18 year old - you cannot really take anything useful from what would be appropriate for a forty year old...
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thing about the insulin levels is they're apparently 2.5, which is normal right? i ask cuz my doctor told me my insulin levels are too low and my pancreas isn't producing enough insulin. this is why he told me to decrease protein and up carbs.

i upped my carbs slightly with an upper limit of 150, didn't decrease protein tho

and the thing about the belly fat...yes im at a healthy weight, but im skinny fat so basically i just have too much fat too little muscle on my body so there is a slight belly. if body is able to handle 120-150 carbs in a day, then i hope im alright?

really the only concerning thing i've dealt with is pretty high fasting numbers. i've tested three times. first morning 95, then 101 the next, and 99 some other time. the numbers probably go down to low 90s and high 80s after being awake for a little tho is my guess
 
JoKalsbeek said:
You're on a forum for diabetics, checking your numbers. That's at least *some* level of anxiety, right there. Don't get me wrong, you're more than welcome, but like Antje said, it is a slippery slope to an eating disorder.

Basically, if you worry about becoming diabetic sometime in the future, just eat wisely, sensibly, AND live a little. Have the occasional pizza. (Not daily, but.... Pizza!). If I could've talked to myself before diabetes became an issue, I would have had this advice: Up the fats, and cut the carbs when you start seeing belly fat, and for f's sake, have the romantic high tea with your husband at that ballroom you want so bad, because it's not going to happen in your future otherwise. Never thought one of my biggest regrets (there are bigger, more crucial ones, but still), would be missing out on something as seemingly trivial as that. So be sensible about food, but not neurotic. And if you worry about diabetes, just ask your GP for a HbA1c once every few years, keep an eye on things, and then let it go again until the next test. For the moment, you are in the clear, and you are alert for any changes that might occur. And if anything even changes a little bit, you'll be right on top of it before it turns into something, if it even would be inclined to do so.

Be good to yourself. Breathe. Relax. Pizza.
Hugs,
Jo
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i do have a slight belly cuz i am skinny fat, but i think im alright eating 120-150g carbs a day as my body after those meals handles it well
 
GOJIGANG said:
i do have a slight belly cuz i am skinny fat, but i think im alright eating 120-150g carbs a day as my body after those meals handles it well
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I'm talking about a bona-fide gut. I went from slim to beach ball, and then you should start asking questions. But at your age, I wouldn't worry about a bit of a belly rather than a 6-pack. And also, not about a once in a while carb splurge.
 
JoKalsbeek said:
I'm talking about a bona-fide gut. I went from slim to beach ball, and then you should start asking questions. But at your age, I wouldn't worry about a bit of a belly rather than a 6-pack. And also, not about a once in a while carb splurge.
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alright well im less worried about a carb splurge now, but i'll still keep it disciplined

instead of 6 slices of pizza (which i can easily do) i'll do more like 3-4 slices max or something
 
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