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Type 1: Prescription fine

Discussion in 'Type 1 Diabetes' started by molivers73, Nov 26, 2014.

  1. donnellysdogs

    donnellysdogs Type 1 · Master

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    Agreed...
     
  2. elaine77

    elaine77 · Well-Known Member

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    I think it's just that diabetes affects literally every part of your body and almost always causes some sort of problem or complication at some point so any medication u might need could probably be linked back to the diabetes in some way..

    There is also the fact that many conditions qualify for disability allowances but diabetes doesn't, despite being legally accepted as a disability and affecting day to day life.
    The way they classify these things is rather too subjective at times in my opinion...

    This is not to say other conditions are not deserving of free prescriptions though, just that diabetes most definitely is.
     
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  3. smidge

    smidge LADA · Well-Known Member

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    The only time I've ever been asked for my medical exemption card - and it is a card, not a certificate - was a couple of weeks ago in the hospital pharmacy when the consultant had prescribed a different insulin for me and I had to pick it up there rather than in my usual pharmacy. At my usual pharmacy I don't even tick the box on the back of the prescription - the assistant does that and I just sign.

    I honestly believe the issues people are having now with fines are because the NHS has been told to clamp down on fraud and stop medication going free to those who are not entitled - unfortunately it is far easier to fine those who do not have the right paperwork than it is to properly clamp down on those committing fraud. If at the end of the accounting period, the department involved can say they've caught and fined Xx hundred fraudulent claims saving Xx hundred/thousand £s, they will have met their targets and justified their existence as no-one will look any further. The fact is of course, they will have saved no money whatsoever and cost hundreds or thousands of £s administering a completely futile piece of bureaucracy. Such is life with the NHS I'm afraid.

    Smidge
     
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  4. Jimski

    Jimski Type 1 · Member

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    I liked this post a great deal. My only addition is that it is a shame there is no appeal process with the automated letter.

    I have a response back from the BSA to my 'feedback / appeal' email which I will post here when I have had some time to digest its contents.
     
  5. catherinecherub

    catherinecherub · Guest

    Prescription fraud clampdown plan heavily criticised.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-30622544

    "You can get a free NHS prescription if you have a specified medical condition and have a valid exemption certificate"
     
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  6. Pipp

    Pipp Type 2 · Expert
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    I heard this news item on BBC Breakfast this morning, @catherinecherub

    So, it seems there is a new database in use that checks to see if anyone claiming medical exemption has a valid exemption certificate. If you don't have the valid exemption certificate, regardless of whether or not you have one of the eligible conditions you can expect to receive a fine.

    Unfair? Yes, and unjust. BUT at least now we know what they are up to, and can defend ourselves by getting the correct documentation immediately.

    I do believe this is another way to improve statistics for the government. I.e. x amount of fraud detected, and so many people fined, 'saving' so much money. It stinks!
     
  7. donnellysdogs

    donnellysdogs Type 1 · Master

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    Also on radio 4 talk this morning. But their chat ended up talking about why diabetics in England get scripts free and people with asthma and MS don't...

    First time today that one if my lical chemists actually asked to see my card.
     
  8. Brunneria

    Brunneria Other · Moderator
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    What I find interesting is that only 10% of scripts are subject to the charge!

    Kinda begs the question whether the bureaucratic system, admin, time and effort monitoring (office, surgery and pharmacy), establishing and enforcing the fines for non compliance, etc. are worth the effort!
     
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  9. Emmotha

    Emmotha Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I do actually agree about asthma and MS! they should be free too
     
  10. Sancho panza

    Sancho panza Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    The simple way to sort this out is if England followed the lead of Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland and issued all prescriptions free of charge!
    But thats a whole other discussion
     
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  11. Pipp

    Pipp Type 2 · Expert
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    And cystic fibrosis?
     
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  12. catherinecherub

    catherinecherub · Guest

    There is a petition for people with long term conditions asking for them to be exempt from prescription charges.

    http://www.prescriptionchargescoalition.org.uk

    The Prescription Charges Coalition is a group of more than 30 organisations campaigning to end unfair prescription charges for people with long-term medical conditions.
     
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  13. phoenix

    phoenix Type 1 · Expert

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    In a different system, I get 100% reimbursement for diabetes related drugs and treatment (ALD) .There is a fairly long list of other conditions that this also applies to because many conditions require a lot of drugs and treatments (all sorts for example TB ,Multiple Sclerosis,Rheumatoid arthritis , Asthma , Parkinson's ,haemophilia, leprosy, bilharzia, disabling stroke ) http://www.ameli.fr/professionnels-...ction-de-longue-duree/les-ald-exonerantes.php
    There is also a clause that enables the doctor/patient to apply for an ALD if the treatment is costly and expected to last for more than 6months.
    It doesn't apply to every chronic condition so though I need thyroid drugs for life, they are relatively cheap and don't qualify ( I would get 70% reimbursed but each packet costs less than 2€)
    There is an expiry date on each 'certificate'. Because of the condition (ie T1) mine expires 25 years after diagnosis and presumably if I'm still around it will be renewed.
    It seems a more sensible way to do it than the very limited list that the UK has (there is a downside though, you don't get exonerated from contributions when you are of pension age unless you are on a very low income)
     
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  14. andybates

    andybates Type 2 · Member

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    I'm just so flabbergasted that any fine can be tied to the number of medical items required. I have received a £96 notice today and to base it and upscale the fine based on the quantity of essential medical items required is shameful.

     
  15. Spiker

    Spiker Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Thanks Tim - constructive and helpful.
     
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  16. Spiker

    Spiker Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Except to be fair there is no such box. There is no box to tick that you have a medical exemption. There is only a box to tick that you have a VALID medical exemption CERTIFICATE.

    Like you I was told not to bother getting one. I move around GPs a lot and eventually I hooked up with a GP who said I should get one. The card sat in a drawer for ten years, never once asked for, but at least I ticked the box with a clear conscience since I was in fact in possession of the card. Though at some point it presumably became invalid. Fair enough, I guess the NHS wants a sanity check every 5 years to see if they've cured T1D. :-/

    I'll phone the number and get a new card. Thanks DCUK for the heads up. And I hope there isn't a £124 fine waiting in my pile of unopened post.
     
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  17. Spiker

    Spiker Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    That's how you order a repeat prescription, with just half the form. But when you fill the prescription you need the full form and you need to tick the box. No ticky no scrippy.
     
  18. Spiker

    Spiker Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Ah, so it's all YOUR fault, Signy!
    ;-)
     
  19. iHs

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    Until just recently, whenever I picked up my prescription from my pharmacy, my pharmacist signed on my behalf so all I had to do was just collect the items with the repeat form. It was only on my last prescription collection that the counter staff asked if I was exempt and could I sign the declaration. As far as I know my pharmacist is aware of my exemption card as my details are on the database.
     
  20. Sancho panza

    Sancho panza Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    since my Drs opened an in house pharmacy I don't get the full prescription form now when I collect my scrippy only the repeat half is in the bag with the meds I haven't seen the half to sign since I started with free prescriptions so I can only presume that the pharmacy is filling the form in. I'm certainly not.
     
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