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Type 1: Quick rising BG in the morning

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Can anyone help? My blood sugars rise about 3-4 units in the morning from just waking up?!
If I test when I wake up and am around say 6, within 30 mins I can be heading to 10?? I won't have eaten or drunk anything and my background is still in my system (less than 12 hrs since last injection).
Any ideas as to why this is, or what people do to sort it out?
I've tried taking more overnight background but that gives me a hypo about 2am and as it happens as I wake up (regardless of time) I can't take any quick acting quick enough! Thanks.
 
This is fairly common and is something I suffer from also.

I need a 1-2u bolus dose as soon as I wake to counter this BG rise which will happen as soon as I start moving around. It's a real pain...
 
I suffer from.it too, but I'm.not taking any meds for it. It comes down after eating and gets gradually better as the day wears on.it certainly seems like I get more capable of dealing with carbs the later in the day
 
jctype1 said:
Can anyone help? My blood sugars rise about 3-4 units in the morning from just waking up?!
If I test when I wake up and am around say 6, within 30 mins I can be heading to 10?? I won't have eaten or drunk anything and my background is still in my system (less than 12 hrs since last injection).
Any ideas as to why this is, or what people do to sort it out?
I've tried taking more overnight background but that gives me a hypo about 2am and as it happens as I wake up (regardless of time) I can't take any quick acting quick enough! Thanks.
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Welcome @jctype1 :)

I get the waking rise too, and DP. Luckily I have a pump which helps a lot, but I find not delaying breakfast helps a lot. If I do need to delay eating, I either bolus a small amount of insulin without food or, better still, eat a small amount of carbs and bolus.
 
Hi @jctype1. Have to back up what @azure has already mentioned. If on the odd occasion I miss breakfast when I first rise I have a noticeable rise in BS. If I have breakfast and bolus as normal then I have no rise.
If you miss breakfast on first rising then a bolus dose is an option, be careful not to stack your insulin though.
 
jctype1 said:
Can anyone help? My blood sugars rise about 3-4 units in the morning from just waking up?!
If I test when I wake up and am around say 6, within 30 mins I can be heading to 10?? I won't have eaten or drunk anything and my background is still in my system (less than 12 hrs since last injection).
Any ideas as to why this is, or what people do to sort it out?
I've tried taking more overnight background but that gives me a hypo about 2am and as it happens as I wake up (regardless of time) I can't take any quick acting quick enough! Thanks.
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As I said earlier I suffer from these rising blood sugars early in the morning as well. I am trying very hard to get over a weight loss plateau. After yet other small rise overnight ( now 1.0 kilo in a week) I decided to " bite the bullet and try a day's fasting. I woke this morning on 6.7 rising to 7.7 an hour later when I made the fasting decision . I have started a fast before, but found that because my blood sugars rise until I've eaten I keep panicking and eating something about two hours in to stop what seems to be an inexorable rise. This time I decided to start and not actually test for a while. I figured that if it truly did shoot up high I would start to feel a bit strange, so i would trust in myself to know that rather than obsessively checking. The result was that my first blood test was about 3pm and 6.5%, my next test around 6pm and 6.2% and my third 5.7% at 8Pm .
I have no idea if any of this is at all relevant to a type 1 , but for me as a type 2 I did find that the rise does stop happening in anyeevent regardless of the actual food as the day wears on. ( sorry I had not noticed that this was a type 1 post )
 
Another who experiences a liver dump if I don't eat upon waking.

@jctype1 what I do is bolus as I'm still lying in bed to get the insulin working before going downstairs to make breakfast, by bolusing and eating breakfast it shuts off the dump and keeps my bg levels stable throughout the morning, try it and see how you get on.
 
Thanks everyone, it's really useful hearing from other people with diabetes!

Can I just check what a few of you are saying? I need to take quick acting insulin (as I am) but also eat quickly? This seems a bit backwards to me.....I've been delaying eating until I could get my sugars back down so that I could then start from a good reading as such!
 
jctype1 said:
Can I just check what a few of you are saying? I need to take quick acting insulin (as I am) but also eat quickly? This seems a bit backwards to me.....I've been delaying eating until I could get my sugars back down so that I could then start from a good reading as such!
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If you wake on 6 then bolus and eat within 15-20mins it may/may not work, but nothing ventured nothing gained as they say but it does work for some of us as you can see from the replies above.

tbh I don't see such a sharp rise like you do (you say your bg goes up by 4mmol/l half an hour from waking) but I can see a similar rise after an hour if I don't eat.
 
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