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Type 1s: Low Carb and Type 1

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Sazzy_B

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Has anyone with Type 1 had success with a low carb diet re loosing weight and improving blood sugar levels ? i am interested in giving it a go!
 
I'll tag a very knowledgeable and experienced type 1 to your thread who follows a low-carb diet @robert72
 
hi @Sazzy_B

I have been low-carbing for just over 3 years. I didn't have any weight to lose, but my BG levels have vastly improved.
 
Hi Robert, Thank you for responding, have you followed any particular programm or principles or have you done it by cutting out bread pasta etc?
 
Sazzy_B said:
Hi Robert, Thank you for responding, have you followed any particular programm or principles or have you done it by cutting out bread pasta etc?
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Similarly interested @robert72 , VLC ie below 20g looks like it messes with my insulin sensitivity. Appreciate I need to go have a proper read of Bernstein again but how low is low carb for you?
 
My levels are much better when low carbing. Only time I ever put weight on in 50+ years was when I was told to eat more carbs from porridge and bread etc..so keeping as my GP would say "lean and mean"
as a T1 low carbing is brilliant. My 6months of extra carbs n extra weigh shifted the minute I reverted back to my life time habits.
I used to be quite low.. average 30ish (excluding coffees). Nowadays bloods still pretty good day time with eating but my foods are pretty much purely veg, melon and yogurt and very small portion. I even weighed my salads when I could eat them for the carbs!! My salads could be 19g without coleslaw or potato salad... just from olives, avocado, pepper, tomatoes etc..

Low carbing is also whether you are going to "count things" that dietitians will tell you not to count such as salads.....

It certainly kept me lean..and told off for bloods being too low!
 
Sazzy_B said:
Hi Robert, Thank you for responding, have you followed any particular programm or principles or have you done it by cutting out bread pasta etc?
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steve_p6 said:
Similarly interested @robert72 , VLC ie below 20g looks like it messes with my insulin sensitivity. Appreciate I need to go have a proper read of Bernstein again but how low is low carb for you?
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Hi @Sazzy_B and @steve_p6

I just developed my own version, but I worked my way down in steps eliminating carbs as I went. First to go was major carbs from evening meal, then I took out whatever I saw giving a rise during the day. I am now down to around 20g carb/day.

I wouldn't say that I am insulin resistant as my basal has come down to between 11-14u per day depending on season - but I do need quite a lot of bolus for getting out of bed (no carbs) 7u Novo and then evening meal (10g carb or less) another 7u. Otherwise I am pretty much flat line all day and night when my basal is set.
 
@robert72..
Quick bit of advice requested here. Ave you had to increase your pre get up correction bolus since being on degludec?

I'm going back to degludec and currently having to have 4 injections in total at 4am and 8am of novo and insulatard totalling 18.5 units before getting up.. only have 9 units in total for the rest of the day.

Sorry for butting in... I'm a low carber so its interesting what I may face on degludec again.

All my insulin needs changed since last trying degludec 3 years ago...

Just had to come off pump again as every cannula change failing... thanks...
 
I eat about 20 carbs a day or less, all in above ground low carb veggies.
I have done that for 25 years.
When I was first put on insulin they told me to eat 20 carbs per MEAL. My bs was all over the place and I put on loads of weight ( though I needed to at the time). I dropped my carbs as well as my insulin needs were much less and the weight gain stopped. Carbs have always made me gain weight.

I take 1/2-1 unit novolog with meals and 1-2 units lantus at night. My meals are small but nutritious and high in fat. I do keep saturated fat low as that will raise me and keep me up higher and longer. I eat vlc, MODERATE protein and healthy fats to satisfy. I've found my meal macros and insulin doses Os I just stick with that. Very few surprises on my meter.
 
donnellysdogs said:
@robert72..
Quick bit of advice requested here. Ave you had to increase your pre get up correction bolus since being on degludec?

I'm going back to degludec and currently having to have 4 injections in total at 4am and 8am of novo and insulatard totalling 18.5 units before getting up.. only have 9 units in total for the rest of the day.

Sorry for butting in... I'm a low carber so its interesting what I may face on degludec again.

All my insulin needs changed since last trying degludec 3 years ago...

Just had to come off pump again as every cannula change failing... thanks...
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hi DD

No it's always been like that, even when I was on Lantus. It's just the trauma of having to get out of bed :eek:
 
robert72 said:
No it's always been like that, even when I was on Lantus. It's just the trauma of having to get out of be
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What happens if you eat on waking @robert72 (not necessarily a carby meal/snack), do you find you need more or less insulin?
 
I'm interested in your evening meal bolus @robert72 - how does that compare to pre-LCHF? I'm asking because my evening bolus is around half yours (I have carbs) but I found cutting carbs didn't reduce my bolus need at all, if that makes sense? That's why I eat moderate carbs as I personally find carbs help imsulin sensitivity.

I have the dreaded waking rise too, but only have to bolus one unit if I delay eating. If I eat my (cereal) breakfast in good time, I don't have that pesky rise.
 
noblehead said:
What happens if you eat on waking @robert72 (not necessarily a carby meal/snack), do you find you need more or less insulin?
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I still got it when I ate yoghurt and flaxseed for breakfast. I did escape it when I was in Zambia for a couple of weeks two years ago, but I have no idea what I did differently, other than being completely unstressed :)
 
robert72 said:
I still got it when I ate yoghurt and flaxseed for breakfast. I did escape it when I was in Zambia for a couple of weeks two years ago, but I have no idea what I did differently, other than being completely unstressed :)
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Nowt as strange as type 1 :)
 
azure said:
I'm interested in your evening meal bolus @robert72 - how does that compare to pre-LCHF? I'm asking because my evening bolus is around half yours (I have carbs) but I found cutting carbs didn't reduce my bolus need at all, if that makes sense? That's why I eat moderate carbs as I personally find carbs help imsulin sensitivity.

I have the dreaded waking rise too, but only have to bolus one unit if I delay eating. If I eat my (cereal) breakfast in good time, I don't have that pesky rise.
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I do have carbs now and again as a treat, but have to bolus much more for them than I used to. Also I get dawn phenomenon if I have carbs the previous evening, starting from around 4am. I think if I keep glycogen stores low and stay in ketosis then it doesn't come back to haunt me ;)
 
Thanks @robert72 :) That's what I assumed but I wanted to make sure I was assuming correctly. That's one reason why I don't go very low with my carbs, and so it's interesting to see that others have similar issues too :)
 
Thanks @robert72.
Mine is horrific DP, and putting feet on floor... basal and bolus at 4am and again at 8 an hour before getting up.
I'm jyst trying to ponder how much novorapid to take at 4am and again at 8am when I change to deglydec again Saturday morning.

I also have the same as you at night for higher levels starting from 4pm thru to about 8pm whether I have food or not. On pump I could deal with it great by just increasing the appropriate basal rates before hand.

Am worried for degludec and how it will affect the late afternoon highs. Whether I am just going to need a bolus correction to address them.

I am trying again with deglydec as no longer working physically so its hoped it may work for me this time. It just doesn't address by the sounds of it any DP at all and I am still going to have to wake at 4am to give a DP correction and again an hour before getting up. Guess as always its going to be suck and see. My last option is a diaport and I am desperately trying to avoid that....

Wish low carbing did correct DP!!!
It does good with my bloods after eating though!!
 
donnellysdogs said:
Thanks @robert72.
Mine is horrific DP, and putting feet on floor... basal and bolus at 4am and again at 8 an hour before getting up.
I'm jyst trying to ponder how much novorapid to take at 4am and again at 8am when I change to deglydec again Saturday morning.

I also have the same as you at night for higher levels starting from 4pm thru to about 8pm whether I have food or not. On pump I could deal with it great by just increasing the appropriate basal rates before hand.

Am worried for degludec and how it will affect the late afternoon highs. Whether I am just going to need a bolus correction to address them.

I am trying again with deglydec as no longer working physically so its hoped it may work for me this time. It just doesn't address by the sounds of it any DP at all and I am still going to have to wake at 4am to give a DP correction and again an hour before getting up. Guess as always its going to be suck and see. My last option is a diaport and I am desperately trying to avoid that....

Wish low carbing did correct DP!!!
It does good with my bloods after eating though!!
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I suppose the only way to find out is to try it - hope it works for you
 
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