Type 1'stars R Us

[Fairygodmother]

4.6, downward arrow and ‘feeling low’: a jelly baby, 2 Rolos - because they were there - and a walk to the local shop and back and hey presto, 11.9. Magic. You have to love T1.

 

[Fairygodmother]

The lady from CAB was really helpful, but I had to verify who I was bu clicking onto a company ie, Post office. Many questions and pulling my hair out, apparently my phone isn't compatible to download the Expedian app ( I chose this one) CAB lady had already gone, so I had to ring a helpline and luckily a friend was here so his phone was compatible for the app, which took 3 attempts and then, he had to take a photo of the scan thing, (the QR code) 2 times and it went on and on, also my passport photo details only went through on the 3 rd attempt. Had a phone call from Universal credit, who have now set up a face to face with a 'life coach' at he Job centre on Monday at 11.20 am and to bring lots of ID with me and to get a sick note from my GP, from August 1st, who still hasn't received my hospital discharge paper !! I have had enough today. So trying to chill out now after a very stressful and frustrating few hours and taking deep breaths

OMG, no wonder so many fall through the net. Totally heartless approach to sickness and disability! Have you by any chance seen Mike Leigh’s Daniel Blake?

 

[smc4761]

Right this is becoming a mission now to get my BG under control, mainly in mornings when I am having issues. Any advice on what to do would be appreciated

BG after 1pm are fine and generally through the night they have got a lot better. Issue is just the period between breakfast and lunch

I have tried varying my breakfast, cereal, porridge, toast and poached eggs and yogurt and fruit. No matter what i try I find my BG is rising by about 4, eg breakfast BG is 6.5,at 7 am. This can go to BG of 10+ by about 11 am before dropping back to around 8 at 1pm in time for lunch.

I am talking a ratio of 1 unit Novorapid to 4 g of carbs and typically carb in take is around 30 to 40 g of carbs. I also take 20 units of Levemir at 7 am and 26 units of Levemir around 10pm before bed.

If only I could crack this morning one, is this a late dawn phenomenen

I am a long term T1, 37 years and counting

 

[Knikki]

@smc4761 got the same problem as I find it is a late morning spike somewhere around 4-5 hours after breakfast.

I split my Lantus now and have increased the morning one but not sure it is having the desired effect, seems that it takes a couple of days for the Lantus to have an effect if I change the dose.

At the moment I am monitoring it around the 11:00-11:30 to see if I can catch it then dump some Sluggish in to stop it. Sort of worked so far caught a 9+ yesterday but missed and caught it at 13+ today.

Still experimenting but I have an appointment with my DSN in a week or so and talk about insulin.

 

[LooperCat]

@smc4761 & @Knikki - what happens if you don’t eat breakfast? Not suggesting you make a habit of it, but curious.

 

[Knikki]

@smc4761 & @Knikki - what happens if you don’t eat breakfast? Not suggesting you make a habit of it, but curious.

Then I will try and eat the desk, paper, my stomach will eat its self and my digestive system lets everyone know it want feeding by make some very odd noises.

It is not something I have done, brought up on "breakfast is the most important meal of the day" and on the odd times when I delayed eating it, because of the odd stupid high BS, I get really hungry and nowty, not a good place.

 

[Alison54321]

Right this is becoming a mission now to get my BG under control, mainly in mornings when I am having issues. Any advice on what to do would be appreciated

BG after 1pm are fine and generally through the night they have got a lot better. Issue is just the period between breakfast and lunch

I have tried varying my breakfast, cereal, porridge, toast and poached eggs and yogurt and fruit. No matter what i try I find my BG is rising by about 4, eg breakfast BG is 6.5,at 7 am. This can go to BG of 10+ by about 11 am before dropping back to around 8 at 1pm in time for lunch.

I am talking a ratio of 1 unit Novorapid to 4 g of carbs and typically carb in take is around 30 to 40 g of carbs. I also take 20 units of Levemir at 7 am and 26 units of Levemir around 10pm before bed.

If only I could crack this morning one, is this a late dawn phenomenen

I am a long term T1, 37 years and counting

You could try a little bit of dose splitting. Inject a small amount of the Novorapid earlier, than the rest. So that as soon as the your digestive system starts working on breakfast that bit of insulin is ready for it.You have a bit of leeway, with .6.5 at breakfast to push a bit into the system, maybe about half an hour earlier.

I did this for a bit, when my blood sugar started rising after I got up, and I don't have that peak now. Which is a tiny bit inconvenient, as I used to use that peak to go and do stuff. Though I have found another way to deal with the lost peak.

 

[Fairygodmother]

Could it be the feet on the floor syndrome? Similar to dawn phenomen, a liver release when you start moving around which can take some time to clear. Do you wear a libre @smc4761? And @Knikki. If you do then could you do a mid morning unit, or whatever’s appropriate for you, as soon as it begins to rise?

 

[Knikki]

@Fairygodmother I do wear a Libre which is why I caught the rise, however unless I check every 5 minutes, which at work is not always convenient, I will miss it, like today, but did correct and it has stayed SIG the rest of the day

Still learning Libre (Etch A Sketch)

 

[Fairygodmother]

If you use NovoR then a half dose pen might help when catching the swoops and curls too? On the other hand, a few well-placed words plus a bit of correct works wonders for morale

 

[smc4761]

Could it be the feet on the floor syndrome? Similar to dawn phenomen, a liver release when you start moving around which can take some time to clear. Do you wear a libre @smc4761? And @Knikki. If you do then could you do a mid morning unit, or whatever’s appropriate for you, as soon as it begins to rise?

Yes I got my Libre about 8 weeks ago and which is probably the reason I am now more aware. I do check Libre very regularly usually every 2 hours or so

Think one of the issues I may have is "old fart syndrome". I was brought up in early 80's with type 1 and for about 35 years or so I would stick to 3 meals a day and take pretty much a fixed amount of insulin each time. The idea of correction doses was pretty alien to me. Its only really since I did the ADAPT course (similar to DAFNE) that I was aware I could inject more often.

Maybe try doing a slit dose, eg I normally take around 8 units at 7 am with Brekkie, maybe try a 6 then a 2 around 8.30/900

Mel, if I did not eat brekkie, I would be like Knikki start to eat the carpet, desk paper etc. I have been doing a lowish carb diet for about 3 months and have cut my carb intake from around 200g per day to around 100g per day. I do however still like my food and do enjoy brekkie

As always guys thanks for the tips and support. Always willing to try anything that may help

 

[LooperCat]

I hate breakfast. I was always made to eat a bowl of cereal before I went to school, despite actually retching as I forced it down. As soon as I left home I soon binned it as a concept. Then when I was given T1 at 24, I had it drummed into me that it was the most important meal of the day and forced myself to eat it again. I’ve rebelled in the last few months and rarely eat before 3pm now. Clearly I’m not a morning person!

Currently at 13.8 with wine poisoning. Husband asked if I wanted a bottle of my usual pink ****, obviously I said yes. Was so knackered I’d drank most of the bottle before realising he’d bought a sweet one rather than my usual... let’s hope I haven’t overcorrected, eh? Sweet (I’d prefer dry) dreams, friends x

 

[Knikki]

If you use NovoR then a half dose pen might help when catching the swoops and curls too? On the other hand, a few well-placed words plus a bit of correct works wonders for morale

Indeed boost to morale will never go a miss

As for the half dose pens I have only recently found out about them and I am interested in getting one at some point. However at the moment I am not sure if Nova Rapid is working for me, think I have been on it for 20+ years and now I am not sure it is "Rapid". I have an appointment with with DSN where I am going to talk insulins and see what other options there are

@Mel dCP Thats an interesting tale of breakfast and don't eat before 3:00pm? that is just such an alien concept to me, I can't image startign the day without it. In fact when we go on holiday, to those fancy hotels that have a buffet breakfast bar, I make it my mission that by the end of the holiday I will have worked my way through at least 95%+ of the food on there

As for the wine poisoning Go Girl!

if ever we have a dry wine in the house I'll do you swap I love sweeter wines

 

[kitedoc]

The challenge I find is to stop eating. That connection between food in, in, in = hypo going, going, gone - is difficult to ignore. And the often resultant hyper is really like a double punishment. NOT FAIR !!
I agree with @Mel dCP, several jelly beans and wait, is what I do too. My BSL might start low BUT rebounds with input of glucose from my liver whilst I am still FEELING HYPO.
I have heard, but only attempted several times on someone else , placing a glucose tablet in between cheek and teeth. The person was awake but stroppy. Glucose jel could work the same but having someone familiar to the person seems important.(and I would count my fingers afterward). I am only saying what I did, but not recommending it.
Another issue is dealing with the embarrassment of the event !!

 

[Fairygodmother]

Indeed boost to morale will never go a miss

As for the half dose pens I have only recently found out about them and I am interested in getting one at some point. However at the moment I am not sure if Nova Rapid is working for me, think I have been on it for 20+ years and now I am not sure it is "Rapid". I have an appointment with with DSN where I am going to talk insulins and see what other options there are

Good idea, Knikki. I think it was Mel dCP coined the term NovoSluggish. I wish we all had an automatic option to have a pump!

 

[Fairygodmother]

The challenge I find is to stop eating. That connection between food in, in, in = hypo going, going, gone - is difficult to ignore. And the often resultant hyper is really like a double punishment. NOT FAIR !!
I agree with @Mel dCP, several jelly beans and wait, is what I do too. My BSL might start low BUT rebounds with input of glucose from my liver whilst I am still FEELING HYPO.
I have heard, but only attempted several times on someone else , placing a glucose tablet in between cheek and teeth. The person was awake but stroppy. Glucose jel could work the same but having someone familiar to the person seems important.(and I would count my fingers afterward). I am only saying what I did, but not recommending it.
Another issue is dealing with the embarrassment of the event !!

Ah, yes, the embarrassment! The question of how to arrange one’s face when people tell you how you were behaving. The realisation that you’re the only person sitting in the place with damp hair and sweaty clothes, if you’ve managed not to strip them all off that is.

 

[kitedoc]

Ah, yes, the embarrassment! The question of how to arrange one’s face when people tell you how you were behaving. The realisation that you’re the only person sitting in the place with damp hair and sweaty clothes, if you’ve managed not to strip them all off that is.

Or like male muggins here who years ago was trying, with an imaginary token, to get past the turnstile into the um, women's change room at the swimming pool. I was oblivious, honest !!

 

[Fairygodmother]

Ah, yes, the embarrassment! The question of how to arrange one’s face when people tell you how you were behaving. The realisation that you’re the only person sitting in the place with damp hair and sweaty clothes, if you’ve managed not to strip them all off that is.

After I’d written this a memory came rushing in: going out to eat at a pizza place and coming to in a friend’s flat with my boyfriend telling me he’d had to march me there when I started putting pizza on my head.

 

[Jaylee]

The challenge I find is to stop eating. That connection between food in, in, in = hypo going, going, gone - is difficult to ignore. And the often resultant hyper is really like a double punishment. NOT FAIR !!
I agree with @Mel dCP, several jelly beans and wait, is what I do too. My BSL might start low BUT rebounds with input of glucose from my liver whilst I am still FEELING HYPO.
I have heard, but only attempted several times on someone else , placing a glucose tablet in between cheek and teeth. The person was awake but stroppy. Glucose jel could work the same but having someone familiar to the person seems important.(and I would count my fingers afterward). I am only saying what I did, but not recommending it.
Another issue is dealing with the embarrassment of the event !!

I'm not recommending what I did after a hypoglycemic customer tried to strangle me over the counter at a petrol station many years ago.. Slammed the guy against a partition wall opposite & hit him squarely on the forhead with a mars bar I grabbed from the meagre sweet display whilst wrestling the dude. (We only sold MBs chewing gum & Coke.)He was lucky it wasn't a can!

This is the worrying bit. He jumped back on his Ford Sierra & sped off...
He came back a couple of hours later (sheepish.) & apologised...

I'm passive when low. That day I learned not all Ds are the same. & tend to stand well back.

 

[Robinredbreast]

Morning everyone. Awoke on a 17.0 !, first time since I have been on Tresiba and feeling nauseas. I am coughing and my chest feels a little different, not painful as such and a runny nose too. I had a 3.6 before bed and ate 3 small rice cakes. Son is coming round this morning and my daughter and baby Cleo at 11am. Sipping a cup of tea at the moment.
Hope you all have a good