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type 2 high blood sugars possibky going to insulin

gazzab

gazzab

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
HI all,
Just what the title says since January despite taking 2 metformin 2times a.day and 4mg glipermide my blood sugars have been over 11.04 now my diabetic nurse thinks it's time to o on insulin. Not to put too fine a point on it I am scared once on it will I ever get off it, I'm not needlephobic but then I'm not a masochist either with the thought of injecting myself god knows how many times a day/week.

Just looking for advise and a little support here sorry to be a pain
 
Hi no pain if so we are all major pains cause all here for help support and to cause confusion....thats on a good day.

How is your health otherwise as loads of us high fat low carb and bg are kept very low. Do you follow nhs diet advice...if so that explains your problems.

Give us an idea of your diet and bloods please
:-) and folks will start with ideas for you
 
Why didn't you take a full dose of gli?
But
The fist thing has to be to get your bg down and so I would take the insulin. If you can't increase gli

Second I would get on a lchf diet to see if I could get my bg down to reduce the amount of insulin I needed and some overweight people have been able to lose weight and get off insulin and back on the meds
 
HI thanks for your replies,
I am currently 16 stone 6 foot tall I eat healthy and losing weight on slimming world. I don't eat sugary foods or processed foods nearly my daily diet is usually weetabix ( if I remember to eat breakfast) midday lunch is usually a mugshot and fruit apples nectarines etc evening meal is with visible fat removed potatoes either baked or mashed and at least one one third of the plate is veg

Medication I just take what I'm told lol

Bloods morning bloods are around 11 to 16 between meals 16 to 20

Last year my average was 7 I haven't changed anything so confused why it has gone up like this
 
OUUCH l have to say but if l ate what you ate my bloods would also be through the roof as well. Eating cereals pumps it up and those fruit are all high sugar. Mashed foods always causes higher bs as they are broken down before your body gets to them so easier to access

I eat berries and cream for lunch pretty much most days do limit myself to a small bowl only cause if l didn't l wouldnt stop. Do not go low fat anything they take out fat and add sugar.

A carb is another word for sugar so l go for foods with less than 5gcarbs/100g (l ignore the breakdown under the label just look at the word carbs)
I only count carbs not fat or protein.

My average bs us 4.8 to 5.8 l eat no bread, spuds, rice, pasta l do eat full fat foods l do not eat many carbs l have 30gram a day although others low carb to around 150 so it give a wide range find your comfort level.

As you find replies hitting you you will be struck on how much we all love the diet and general advice from the nhs.... not it is this forum that has been the life saver for me not nhs.

Read the following couple of sites
Diet doctor explains how low carb high fat works and lot of info
And scroll down to the low carb forum food here l started with Vivs modified atkins
 
The max dose of gli is 40mg
Your own insulin output has dropped or more insulin resistance
Try this for a month lchf
Don't eat any grain, grain product flour/pasta etc
No fruit or potato.
Eat lots of veg. Normal protein
Eat healthy fat to replace the lost carbs
 
Oh and on the LCHF if you do go that route drink lots of water if you get constipated drink more water. You do not need carbs like they say to provide energy it is the bodys lazy way of getting it. With low carbs it needs other ways to get it so uses fat which has about 9x as much energy value but is harder to access. (Dietdoctor explains it)
 
I must admit to being really confused why does the nhs if this is so good not recommend it, when I was first diagnosed I said that it made sense to me to avoid carbs I was told quite bluntly to under no circumstances to do that. I am starting slimming world free for 12 weeks courtesy of nhs.
I am very nervous and yes scared of injecting insulin. So much I don't know. I find also lots of info on hypo but none on hyper
 
@gazzab
Prob with NHS is they are choked up with dogma and cannot think about what they recommend ! up until recently the control of carbs was the recommended or only way of controlling diabetes!
I found that the only way to deal with entrenched HCPs was not to say that i was on a "Low Carb diet ", rather that I was on a "Controlled Carb Diet";);)
Took myself from Bolus & Basal insulin through Gliclazide to Diet & Exercise!
 
gazzab said:
I must admit to being really confused why does the nhs if this is so good not recommend it, when I was first diagnosed I said that it made sense to me to avoid carbs I was told quite bluntly to under no circumstances to do that. I am starting slimming world free for 12 weeks courtesy of nhs.
I am very nervous and yes scared of injecting insulin. So much I don't know. I find also lots of info on hypo but none on hyper
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Me too, and as far as I'm concerned I wasted seventeen years of my life listening to that **** and like you I really don't know why the NHS don't listen to what a large number of thinking diabetics do to control their BG. I had been discussing insulin with my GP but gave up past/rice/bread/potato a year ago, but I don't panic if I have something now and again, I'm not an Atkins person. Gave up Gliclazide, Januvia and Atorvastatin 6 months ago. Last HbA1c was 6.4 and total cholesterol was 5.4, not shabby and can do better. I would suggest that you just try low carb for a while. All the best.
 
Hi. I think the other posts have said it all. Whilst insulin may or may not help temporarily with your T2 blood sugar, you are probably insulin resistant due to being a bit overweight and than means you probably already have a lot of insulin circulating and adding to it may not help much. Do follow a Low-carb diet and beware of traditional NHS diet advice as much of it is based on bad science. A much lower carb diet should help you reduce both weight and blood sugar. The Metformin will also help a bit. With a bit of luck you won't need Gli-whatever or insulin. Do discuss this with the DN and don't just ignore any prescription given to you.
 
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