I’ve been a type 2 on insulin for 5 yrs. until recently poorly controlled. I suffer from horrendous thrush and thirst and was wondering if there is much I can do about it?
My latest hba1c is 90 I think. Iam sure it was around 117 before that. My reading in the am are between 7-10 and the pre dinner are very sporadic 5-13 and again varies at bed time. Before this normally around 15-19 sometimes a lot higher. I try my best to carb count and have been trying to follow the low carb programme however I know iam not fully committed. Sometimes it doesn’t matter what I eat...
Iam on nova mix 30 and have been since day 1 of being diagnosed. I inject 26 units before breakfast and the same again before dinner. I also take 1 500mg slow release metformin in the morning. I recently got taken off forxiga (sorry maybe the incorrect spelling) because of the thrush. Which iam on frequent medication for as it can take weeks to get rid.
I also get bad insomnia. The list goes on to be honest but at least they aren’t serious... right?
Please help, what am I doing wrong? Probably everything! Iam literally giving up, I have no support
Due to see my nurse on the 12th.
Thanks for reading
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Sounds to me like you need reviewed. I’ve been struggling because of other Christians Nic illnesses and limitations on what meds I can take. My endo just added more lantus (slow release)., so I’m taking it before bed and breakfast. And novo rapid before every meal. So far my morning readings are way better, afternoons so so. But certainly better than it was.I’ve been a type 2 on insulin for 5 yrs. until recently poorly controlled. I suffer from horrendous thrush and thirst and was wondering if there is much I can do about it?
My latest hba1c is 90 I think. Iam sure it was around 117 before that. My reading in the am are between 7-10 and the pre dinner are very sporadic 5-13 and again varies at bed time. Before this normally around 15-19 sometimes a lot higher. I try my best to carb count and have been trying to follow the low carb programme however I know iam not fully committed. Sometimes it doesn’t matter what I eat...
Thanks for reading
No, additional insulin does not make the situation worse - insulin resistance merely means that more insulin is needed to have the same impact as it would in someone without insulin resistance.the problem with T2 as well is the insulin resistance that is inherent in the condition so your body is already flooded with insulin and can't take much more so when you're taking in external insulin it really has a hard time.
That is true enough really, there are a few schools of thought that look at the fact that flooding more in there will just make the resistance worse but it depends on the pathology behind the diabetes you have. Insulin resistance is the same either way to look at it, you’re absolutely right there.No, additional insulin does not make the situation worse - insulin resistance merely means that more insulin is needed to have the same impact as it would in someone without insulin resistance.
Please provide a link to the peer-reviewed, published research which indicates that insulin ever causes insulin resistance. Otherwise, it's just scare-mongering which can be extremely harmful in making people avoid a medication when they need it.That is true enough really, there are a few schools of thought that look at the fact that flooding more in there will just make the resistance worse but it depends on the pathology behind the diabetes you have.
Just to preface this I am never going to say that someone should come off of something life saving nor is insulin to me a failure on part of the patient. If it helps you to manage your condition better and help make your life better then I can do nothing but support it but here we are:Please provide a link to the peer-reviewed, published research which indicates that insulin ever causes insulin resistance. Otherwise, it's just scare-mongering which can be extremely harmful in making people avoid a medication when they need it.
There was an old person of Dean,
Who dined on one pea, and one bean;
For he said, 'More than that,
Would make me too fat,'
That cautious old person of Dean.
This Forum is dominated with postulations for curative treatment of Diabetes Type 2 by “Low carbo method”. For that I can say: Latin “ Quot homines tot sententiae”
Diabetes T2 is not represented by every person on the same way.
LC method is effective by the persons on prediabetic and the persons on the beginning for DM T2.
The treatment for these persons is with diet, exercise, Metformin and Sulphonylureas drugs.
The DM T2 treatment with Insulin and metformin can be difficult to control it effective.
The problem is the missing knowledge by the persons who have DM T2 and the useless explanation from the medical staff. NO one of this medical person explain exactly how to control the illness. All explanations are very superficially. Most people think if they take insulin, then all problems with DM T2 are away.
The intake of exogen insulin depend of the grade of insulin resistance.
I can tell You about my way how I control my DM T2.
I have very high insulin resistance. I take on the morning 15 IE- Insulin Tresiba (degludec), the best insulin on the marked, and 4 IE – insulin Novo Rapid and 1.5 g Metformin. My BG on the morning is from 4.0 to 5.0 mmol/L.
On the morning I eat 2 egg and one bread with butter and honey. (Ordinary office job)
On 12.00 my BG is 4.00 mmol/l and I eat a moderate meal (I eat what I like to eat, no diet meals and no LC- meals). After 1.5 hour I measure my BG. Normally the BG is about 10 mmol/l. After that I take my Electrical Bicycle and drive about 10 to 15 kilometers. (You can RUN if you prefer that) All that take about 0.5 hour. My BG after that is only 4.5 mmol/l. By 18.00 hour I eat normal meal and do not make exercise. On the morning my BG is 4.5 – 5.0 mmol/l.
If You control your BG only with insulin, without exercise, then you must take more insulin and the carbs will not be catabolized but they will be deposit in your adipose tissues. It will be difficult to control your weight.
If You are an obese person, then You can use Insulin Tresiba (degludec) mixed with Victoza. You will have 100% positive results for los of weight. Your “doctor” must be involved in that.
For all this the start point is to find what is your BMR (Basal Metabolic Rate).
You body use 24 Cal / kg weight and if you like to have a weight of 60 Kg, then you can multiplicate 24 x 60 = 1440 Cal / day. The composition of This daily energy of 1440 Cal is: 50% must be from carbs, 30 % from fat ad 20 % from protein.
The carbs and the proteins have 4 Cal / gram and the fat has 9 Cal/gram.
You MUST eat carbs because your body need the energy molecule ATP (Adenosine Triphosphate).
This energy molecules are used by every biochemical process in your body.
You can read on the English Wikipedia about ATP and Metformin. It is very important to understand how this molecule works in your body.
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Hey Sadie,I’ve been a type 2 on insulin for 5 yrs. until recently poorly controlled. I suffer from horrendous thrush and thirst and was wondering if there is much I can do about it?
My latest hba1c is 90 I think. Iam sure it was around 117 before that. My reading in the am are between 7-10 and the pre dinner are very sporadic 5-13 and again varies at bed time. Before this normally around 15-19 sometimes a lot higher. I try my best to carb count and have been trying to follow the low carb programme however I know iam not fully committed. Sometimes it doesn’t matter what I eat...
Iam on nova mix 30 and have been since day 1 of being diagnosed. I inject 26 units before breakfast and the same again before dinner. I also take 1 500mg slow release metformin in the morning. I recently got taken off forxiga (sorry maybe the incorrect spelling) because of the thrush. Which iam on frequent medication for as it can take weeks to get rid.
I also get bad insomnia. The list goes on to be honest but at least they aren’t serious... right?
Please help, what am I doing wrong? Probably everything! Iam literally giving up, I have no support
Due to see my nurse on the 12th.
Thanks for reading
DCUKMOD. Thank you for your comment and I find it very reliable.
Some persons can find a way to manage DM, but there are a lot of people who cannot control DM properly.
In the Biochemistry postulates that our body in rest use 24 Cal /Kg body mass, under ordinary conditions.
This is how BMR is calculated on a simple way.
Calculating the real BMR is more complicated. BMR depend on the body composition.
On the top of the BMR, humans need additional energy for POSTPRANDIAL THERMOGENESIS. It is typical about 10% of the BMR. Digestion, absorption and storage of the fat require about 2% to 4% of the fat energy. Conversion of Carbohydrate to storage fat requires about 24% of the energy content of the Carbohydrate. In the fitness places there are an equipment to measure the BMR.
If the person has a high insulin resistance, then the carbs (glucose) stay in the blood vessels for a long time.
If the glucose is above 5.5 mmol/l then in the tissues where there is no need for insulin the glucose to enter the cells, as the kidney, nerves and the retina there will start the Polyol Pathway. You can read about this Polyol Pathway on English Wikipedia.
The polyol Pathway can result in damage of this tissues as Retinopathy, Neuropathy and Nephropathy.
This is the reason why the glucose levels must be very low.
High insulin resistance and intake of carbs can be controlled on two ways.
You can use more insulin and the result will be the glucose can be converted to fat and will be deposited in the adipose tissues OR
You can after 1.5 hour make physical activities to bring the glucose level low and to catabolize the glucose.
Low Carbo diet is starvation and is not healthy diet. The person catabolizes FAT and the levels of plasma free fatty acids rise and the liver turns fatty acids into ketone bodies. These are the same changes as in starvation. VLDL will be elevated because the oversupply of fatty acids promotes triglyceride synthesis in the liver. The rise in VLDL contributes to the accelerated development of Atherosclerosis and Coronary heart disease in Diabetes.
I do not advocate for my approach to DM control, but I am very serious concerned about the missing attempt from the healthy persons to instruct the DM patient’s correctly
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