Type 2 probably going on insulin

ExChocoholic

Well-Known Member
Messages
300
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
rude, loud people
Many of you will recognise my rent posts in my bid to lower blood my blood sugars. Tried 16:8 diet - made no difference. As good as carb free - makes no difference. Last ditch attempt - looking at upping gliclozide - currently on 1 in morning and 1 in evening before food. DBN wants me to randomly test over next couple of weeks to decide where to increase, if that improve my FBG then I guess I have to concede that I need insulin.

I have been struggling with kidney infections on and off for a while now. Latest antibiotics made me violently ill and I had to stop taking (Mactobid) so have to start on a new course, had the worse cold ever, nearly 4 weeks to get over completely - now another kidney infection. Of course, diabetes causes kidney infections and they raise my BGs - catch 22. Metformin contributed to my kidney damage so had to drop that.

I guess what I'm for is advice on the transition onto insulin, all looks so complicated.
 

Resurgam

Expert
Messages
9,867
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
Just checking - there is a 'reply' on the left beneath the window in which the post shows, then 'edit' 'delete' and 'report' on the right, where the 'post reply' box is positioned when typing a reply.
 

ExChocoholic

Well-Known Member
Messages
300
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
rude, loud people
I cannot seem to find it
Just checking - there is a 'reply' on the left beneath the window in which the post shows, then 'edit' 'delete' and 'report' on the right, where the 'post reply' box is positioned when typing a reply.
 

DCUKMod

Master
Staff Member
Messages
14,298
Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Many of you will recognise my rent posts in my bid to lower blood my blood sugars. Tried 16:8 diet - made no difference. As good as carb free - makes no difference. Last ditch attempt - looking at upping gliclozide - currently on 1 in morning and 1 in evening before food. DBN wants me to randomly test over next couple of weeks to decide where to increase, if that improve my FBG then I guess I have to concede that I need insulin.

I have been struggling with kidney infections on and off for a while now. Latest antibiotics made me violently ill and I had to stop taking (Mactobid) so have to start on a new course, had the worse cold ever, nearly 4 weeks to get over completely - now another kidney infection. Of course, diabetes causes kidney infections and they raise my BGs - catch 22. Metformin contributed to my kidney damage so had to drop that.

I guess what I'm for is advice on the transition onto insulin, all looks so complicated.

ExChocaholic, this is what I see under your post:

upload_2019-11-19_13-24-9.png


As @Resurgam mentions, you'll also have other buttons to the right of the edit, highlighted in yellow?
 

mart47

Member
Messages
10
I recently went onto Insulin after 15 years of diet and meds to control my T2. I had been dreading it, but actually i've found it to be really OK. I'm on Humulin M3 once before breakfast and again before dinner and my numbers are now constantly in single figures. Prior to this, I was running at about 18-20! The needles in particular really help, just 5mm x .25mm and most of the time I dont feel a thing!
 

Resurgam

Expert
Messages
9,867
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
I recently went onto Insulin after 15 years of diet and meds to control my T2. I had been dreading it, but actually i've found it to be really OK. I'm on Humulin M3 once before breakfast and again before dinner and my numbers are now constantly in single figures. Prior to this, I was running at about 18-20! The needles in particular really help, just 5mm x .25mm and most of the time I dont feel a thing!
Result!!
When you need to have insulin, you really do need it - it must be a bit daunting, but it seems to make such a difference when you get it right.
 

ExChocoholic

Well-Known Member
Messages
300
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
rude, loud people
Result!!
When you need to have insulin, you really do need it - it must be a bit daunting, but it seems to make such a difference when you get it right.
Well got a result for sure now. My sugars been 14 - 16 consistently..nothing I did would bring them down. Had really bad kidney infection unbearable pain in my side- started vomiting and uncontrollable shaking so I called 111. Paramedics came and called an ambulance. That was Monday I am now on insulin and you are right, I really need it and it's not that bad. Been feeling unwell so long I kind of got used to it. GPs pretty useless only ever see DBN wo is always fully booked, works one day a week and cancelled my last 2 appointments due to illness. You have to see a paramedic as the Dr needs 4 weeks ahead appointment and my given doctor who is diabetic specialist does do surgery anymore, just admin.
 

Resurgam

Expert
Messages
9,867
Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
I hope that you are soon really feeling the benefits of being treated properly - maybe even try a few squares of chocolate once you are settled into the routine.
 

francesk

Well-Known Member
Messages
182
Type of diabetes
Type 2
I dreaded going onto insulin, but in the end had to, as both metformin and gliclazide made me very ill! Have been on it for about 13 years now and find that once you sort out your levels, it's not a problem at all. But keep blood testing to begin with, so you can keep a good check on things. I hope that it all works out well for you.
 

ExChocoholic

Well-Known Member
Messages
300
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Dislikes
rude, loud people
Forgot my insulin this tea time. I am now on insulin 6 gms am 10 pm. My life has been thrown into disarray this last 2 weeks. Me in hospital 1 week with severe kidney infection and high BS - on entry 20. I've been home a week and had to ambulance 3 times to my husband has advanced Parkinsons as he ended up on floor at night 3 successive nights.

My son flown in from Canada this a.m
To support me. I was at Dr this p.m. as infection not cleared and BS raised again. We did a combined dinner cooked he is jet lagged and I am still woozy from infection - all good vegs etc. But having eaten it I realise I did not take my evening insulin - pre meal.- so should I take it now or leave until tomorrow. Silly I know but I'm still getting used to using insulin and life been a bit crazy with worry about husband.
 

Mikekee

Newbie
Messages
3
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Insulin
Dislikes
Diabetes
Hey ExChoc. I recently went through the change to insulin (Lantus) the Best thing I ever did, No more metformin that always made me feel unwell and stopped working. Now my numbers are so much better, BG was regularly reaching 16 in the mornings after fasting.
 

IDominguez

Newbie
Messages
4
Many of you will recognise my rent posts in my bid to lower blood my blood sugars. Tried 16:8 diet - made no difference. As good as carb free - makes no difference. Last ditch attempt - looking at upping gliclozide - currently on 1 in morning and 1 in evening before food. DBN wants me to randomly test over next couple of weeks to decide where to increase, if that improve my FBG then I guess I have to concede that I need insulin.

I have been struggling with kidney infections on and off for a while now. Latest antibiotics made me violently ill and I had to stop taking (Mactobid) so have to start on a new course, had the worse cold ever, nearly 4 weeks to get over completely - now another kidney infection. Of course, diabetes causes kidney infections and they raise my BGs - catch 22. Metformin contributed to my kidney damage so had to drop that.

I guess what I'm for is advice on the transition onto insulin, all looks so complicated.

As a diabetic, I've been through a similar situation. I was on a severe insulin resistance for a while due to my bad eating habits. I see you mentioned nothing works. It's most likely because you may have severe insulin resistance. Unfortunaley in this case, it's going to take time. As type 2 diabetics, our pancreas is still working and pumping out insulin. We don't need to add more insulin. Increase your fasting and do the keto diet. This is wat I did and gave me results. I'm off metformin and is able to control sugar levels naturally. Not going to say it was easy or an overnight miracle, but it works. You have to give it time. If you need help, let me know.
 

PatsyB

Well-Known Member
Messages
2,956
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Insulin
Dislikes
Diabetes
been on insulin for over a year humalog 25% mix then had to have it changed as readings were high wa sput on Treseba one injection at night which seems to be good and then given another NovoRapid which seems to give me side effects ie very tired, dizzy feeling weird and funny taste in mouth anyone else had this reaction only been on it 4 days
 

WAGR57

Well-Known Member
Messages
49
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
Many of you will recognise my rent posts in my bid to lower blood my blood sugars. Tried 16:8 diet - made no difference. As good as carb free - makes no difference. Last ditch attempt - looking at upping gliclozide - currently on 1 in morning and 1 in evening before food. DBN wants me to randomly test over next couple of weeks to decide where to increase, if that improve my FBG then I guess I have to concede that I need insulin.

I have been struggling with kidney infections on and off for a while now. Latest antibiotics made me violently ill and I had to stop taking (Mactobid) so have to start on a new course, had the worse cold ever, nearly 4 weeks to get over completely - now another kidney infection. Of course, diabetes causes kidney infections and they raise my BGs - catch 22. Metformin contributed to my kidney damage so had to drop that.

I guess what I'm for is advice on the transition onto insulin, all looks so complicated.

I must say I’m confused as to why a Type 2 (insulin resistant) would need more insulin. As I understand IR, the T-cell receptors are damaged and so don’t accept or use the insulin hormone very well thus the higher BG. The BG gets higher and the pancreas thinks you need more insulin and too much insulin is yet another problem. For me when I hear BG goes down or gets better after taking insulin means your T-cell receptors are working okay and it’s the pancreas not making enough insulin. If I have this wrong please inform me how this works