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Mani0208

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Hi all i`m new to diabetes doctor has given me Metformin, I wuld like to ask a few questions. Can I take

Turmeric with black pepper extract capsules

hayfever and allergy relief tablets

Pepsi Maxx

How much can I eat through out the day

I dont have a clue on what I can eat can I take vitamin supplements if so which ones any advice would be appreciated thanks.
 
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There is a lot of food you can eat, meat, bacon, dairy products, eggs, salad veggies, green veggies, sugar free jelly, fat bombs, anything with keto in front of it.

Just a few for starters here but there are more.
 
Riva_Roxaban said:
There is a lot of food you can eat, meat, bacon, dairy products, eggs, salad veggies, green veggies, sugar free jelly, fat bombs, anything with keto in front of it.

Just a few for starters here but there are more.
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Riva, things may be different in Oz but here in the UK manufacturers have started putting "keto" in front of many things which are definitely not keto. Example: A 100g "Keto bar" I looked at in Sainsbury's yesterday had 38g carb. That's two days' worth of carb for me. and whatever it is it ain't keto...
 
Try oven roasting a sprinkling of turmeric on slices of cabbage, along with actual black pepper and olive oil or butter - blow extracts and capsules, get the full impact of spiced food.
Maybe try getting vitamins and minerals from veges, picking low carb and a variety of colours to make your diet interesting and tasty.
How much you eat is a very individual thing - go for good nutrition, variety, flavour texture and interest.
Avoid anything starchy or full of sugars.
Using a blood glucose meter to check how you react to meals and to see if you need to make changes helps a lot.
 
This list has quite a few high carb foods and many on the forums have found adopting a lower carb approach is better for T2 diabetes. Everyone is unique though so for some it may not impact as much

Eating to the meter is the best thing to do as that's the best way to see how the foods impact you. Testing prior to eating and then testing 2 hours after the first bite to see if there is a rise of no more that 2 is often recommended but some combinations of food, especially carby/fatty can flatten out the spike and make it last longer into 3 or 4 hours or longer

NHS guidance often quotes the sorts of food above, but one of the things we T2 learn is that this guidance may not be appropriate unfortunately

@alanboo i drink Pepsi Max and other low carb drinks. I know some don't recommend but I don't find I have an impact. I also take a daily anti-histamine. If you have concerns on drugs though, speak to a pharmacy or doctor
 
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This looks very like the NHS Eatwell Plate and is a really good description of the carb-heavy diet I was following before diagnosis. The diet that pushed my BG up to diabetic levels and gave me diabetic complications. Might possibly work for others but positively dangerous for me.
 
I'm going to weigh in and say I agree with @Andydragon . The best advice for any type 2 diabetic is to eat to your meter. So take regular readings and work out what your body can tolerate.

I like others have found low arb works for me. The list of food provided contains a lot of stuff that I would not even consider eating any more. BUT eat and test. Log your meals and particularly your carb intake.

Good luck and welcome
 

May I just add a comment to Alanboo's list please:
I personally don't tolerate potatoes, bread and pasta - they all push up the next morning's glucose readings quite severely. Spuds particularly.
As for beverages, I drink the sugar-free versions of Fanta and Irn Bru; both taste wonderfully sweet but haven't a trace of sugar in them.
A tummy filler a couple of hours after dinner is usually a pair of bananas. Maybe a couple of rich teas.
Alan.
 
Bananas may cause some significant blood level rise. Even my diabetic nurse who hasn't been a low carb fan has said to be wary. So, again, need to see how it impacts you via meter. Some people may not have an impact, others will.

It's unfortunately the only way to know

I also have long term impact from spuds. It's why I said above the 2 hour test is not infallible. If you are able to afford a CGM then it can show a lot more but for a lot of us we can't so have to be aware as best we can
 
alanboo said:
well even with high carbs options if we control portion sizes we can still have them as part of our meal plan.
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Seems reasonable, pity it doesn't work.
Admittedly my 'allowance' of carbs in a day is rather low, but I would far rather have the choice of lots of colourful, tasty and nutritious veges or berries than tiny amounts of high carb foods.
 
alanboo said:
well even with high carbs options if we control portion sizes we can still have them as part of our meal plan.
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Wasn't going to post but having inadvertently clicked on "agree" on your post I think I have to say I DON'T agree. Why? I eat to my meter. If it raises BG unacceptably I don't eat it. Controlling portion size to achieve my <20g carb/day intake would mean either 100g banana or 40g bread or an apple, etc...tiny portions, hunger guaranteed,and nothing left for green veg etc. There is no one size fits all "we can still have.." in this. You might be able to, or want to be able to, eat carbohydrate in quantity. If this "Eatwell plate" approach works for you, fine. It certainly doesn't work for me.
 
Thanks eveyone once my meter arrives I will give it a go. I have a few more questions which Multivitamin & Minerals would you recommend?

Also is herbalife any good? and omega 3 capsules.
 
alanboo said:
well even with high carbs options if we control portion sizes we can still have them as part of our meal plan.
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I'm going to agree with previous posters. It really does depend on the individual. I can't have high arb foods- that's what my meter tells me. I probably have a bit more tolerance when I get a good nights sleep and not stressed or anything but that is because my levels are lower so I have more give.

It can also depend on the balance that someone has achieved. I'm an 'all or nothing' type person. If I had even a small portion of a high carb food that would not go so well for me.

So whether we can have high carb options or not is an individual thing. There is no one right answer there is only the answer that works for you at the moment.
 
 
sorry Alan but I must disagree with your diet recommendations...they are a recipe for raising blood glucose levels .
Fruits may be healthy for many but they contain large amounts of fructose (sugar). As for grains..... for someone newly diagnosed with T2 and taking Metformin.... all grains should be avoided at least until BG levels have come down under control .Carbs and sugars are what have caused the T2 diabetes in the first place. What is the point in taking Metformin but continuing to eat sugar and carbohydrates ? thats like pressing hard on a cars brakes whilst simultaneously pressing the accelerator to the floor !

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Mani0208 said:
Thanks eveyone once my meter arrives I will give it a go. I have a few more questions which Multivitamin & Minerals would you recommend?

Also is herbalife any good? and omega 3 capsules.
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What is the goal of the vitamins, minerals and omega 3 capsules? It won't reduce your blood glucose, but if you have a deficiency or if you don't get enough through your food it might be of benefit.

As for me, I only take vitamin D on prescription because of a deficiency, I trust I get everything else through food.
 
While individuals may be able to tolerate the list provided by alanboo - along with medication - many of the T2s here focus on reducing carbs enough to try to lower our diabetic meds or to get into full remission. If this is what you hope to do in order to have the best chance of avoiding diabetic complications then you'll probably find bananas, potatoes, etc. are too high in carbs.
It used to be thought that T2 diabetes was a progressive disease, with many people ending up on more and more drugs, or worse. Now research shows we can get good control of our blood sugars from adjusting our diet - but more than the simple give up sugar advice doctors used to give us.
Giving up or strictly restricting high carb food and avoiding the so-called 'Eatwell' plate, still leaves plenty of variety.
I now have full-fat milk, double cream and butter without feeling guilty. I also have a small portion of raspberries most days as berries are generally lower in carbs than other fruit.
I looked at the substitutes for carb heavy foods and then swapped to the occasional slice of lower carb bread or make 90 second bread with ground almonds, I have cauliflower rice, and if I want mash I have a mix of mashed cauliflower and butternut squash. I've also tried kohlrabi, which is a great potato sub but needs longer cooking.
Instead of pasta I usually just have extra protein with a low carb sauce.
I also make low carb cake sometimes, there are some good recipes for simple low carb mug cakes.
 
johnnyxs said:
As for grains..... for someone newly diagnosed with T2 and taking Metformin.... all grains should be avoided at least until BG levels have come down under control .
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There are differing views on what diets will achieve remission for diabetics, though I think most would agree that a steady diet of maltezers washed down with non diet coke will be problematic. And a lot of the posters on here achieve remission just by cutting their carbs, and find that grains spike their levels. But saying that you should never eat a whole food group seems drastic to me, though it's as well to be aware that many many T2s posting here find that their levels are spiked by that group. As others have already said, your meter is the guide.
 
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