Type 2?

neety41

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
To cut a long story short i had found glucose in urine and a blood sugar of 11.5 2 hrs after eating sweet stuff (am a nurse). I felt unwell so dipped urine. Anyway i had hb1ac done yest and fasting bloods, hb1ac is 51, doctor not contacted me yet i just rang and asked the receptionist. I have a family history so was expecting it, am following weight watchers at moment so that should help, am not huge but do need a couple of stones off. I am 51 next month so think this was a kick up the bum for me. Do u think this will be seen as type 2 or pre diabetes?
 

andcol

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I reversed my Type 2
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I do not have diabetes
Hi @neety41 and welcome to the forum. An HbA1c of 41 is outside the threshold of 48 so will probably be classed as diabetes. Weight Watchers may not necessarily be the best regime to follow for D as they push carbs too much for my and many others liking.

Even though you are a nurse I will tag @daisy1 to provide you with some information that we like to provide most newly diagnosed.
 

neety41

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Thanks for ur reply, the new no count weight watchers is very good, only brown pasta and brown warburtons thins in moderation, everything else is fresh food from scratch so i think it will fit in well but will speak to my ww consultant. I hope my GP rings soon and we can discuss it, although i am a nurse, diabetes isnt my strong point, i do A&E but have recently started GP. Nursong so am learning more about the ins and outs lol
 

neety41

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Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Should i be testing my sugars regularly? I know that for a long time i have felt awful a couple of hours after eating sugary stuff but didnt think about diabetes as i had a gtt years ago after finding glucose in my urine but it was ok
 

daisy1

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Type 2
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@neety41

Hello and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find this useful. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

LOW CARB PROGRAM:
http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
 

Sirmione

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477
Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
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I also come from a family of diabetics and was not exactly surprised when diagnosedT2 but it was here on the forum I got the knowledge and support that brought my blood glucose level under control.

Most T2s on here test to find what foods work for them and which foods spike their blood glucose level, The results can be very surprising.

You have obviously well informed and seeking more knowledge but may find a lot of what we all have been taught about heathy eating over the last 40 years has to be turned upside down, that includes Weight Watchers diet plans.

Carbohydrates are at the core of the problem I found in the very early stages of bringing T2 under control it is probably best to avoid all carbohydrates then reintroduce very small portions of the "better" slow acting carbs testing before and two hours after meals.

Breads and all types of grain/cereal/rice products are very high on the avoid list. A whole grain grannary seeded bread from one manufacturer might not cause a huge spike in your blood glucose but a very similar product from a different or even the same baker could. cause a delayed long lasting rise in blood glucose. Breakfast cereals are really bad news, some diabetics can take oats but I know I can't.

Also Milk contains loctose but a fairly significant proprtion of adults haven't got emzyne to breakdown Lactose into simpler sugars to so is ok for some diabetics but not others. Full Fat yoghurt is Ok Low Fat if full of sugar.

Root vegetables particularly potatoes (no matter how they are cooked) are another problem while many root vegetables are OK.Simplest rule is if it grows below the ground view with suspicion check the carb content before eating and monitor afterwards.

With fruit the simple guide line is the warmer the climate needed to grow the fruit the more sugar it contains.
Apples pears plums OK in smallish portions, all berries are OK.
 
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jaybay

Member
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Type of diabetes
Treatment type
Diet only
To cut a long story short i had found glucose in urine and a blood sugar of 11.5 2 hrs after eating sweet stuff (am a nurse). I felt unwell so dipped urine. Anyway i had hb1ac done yest and fasting bloods, hb1ac is 51, doctor not contacted me yet i just rang and asked the receptionist. I have a family history so was expecting it, am following weight watchers at moment so that should help, am not huge but do need a couple of stones off. I am 51 next month so think this was a kick up the bum for me. Do u think this will be seen as type 2 or pre diabetes?
Hba1c over 48 is diabetes not pre. Many doctors don't encourage t2 testing but I would strongly recommend you do. A lot can be achieved if you understand which foods raise your levels and adjust your diet.
 

Daibell

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Type of diabetes
LADA
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Insulin
Hi and welcome. Yes, do get hold of a glucose meter as it's an essential piece of kit. I'd be little wary of WW foods (same for SW etc) as these branded diets don't fully understand the impact of carbs on our metabolism. They tend to follow the low-fat mantra which is not helpful. Carbs contribute to both blood sugar rise and weight gain; more so than fats or proteins. Whilst wholemeal (not plain brown) flour is lower-GI and absorbed more slowly, the carb content is the same. So, don't worry about proteins or fats but do keep the carbs down and with a bit of luck your HBa1C will go down a bit and hopefully the weight you wish to lose.
 

neety41

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Messages
53
Type of diabetes
Prediabetes
Thankyou everyone, even as a nurse i dont fully understand diabetes. I love carbs and that will be tough for me. I have also noticed friends reactions are odd, 'oh u can reverse that' or the best one is ' oh type 2 is not serious like type 1' 'lose a few pounds and it will go away'! I had to point out that my weight is nothing like some of my friends who dont have diabetes and that it isnt wholly down to lifestyle as is reflected in my cholestrol of 4.6!
 

NoCrbs4Me

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Type of diabetes
I reversed my Type 2
Treatment type
Other
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Vegetables
Welcome. It's possible you may be able to reverse it by some weight loss and/or reduction of carb intake. I managed to do that as have many others on this forum.
 
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Mongolia

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Diet only
Thankyou everyone, even as a nurse i dont fully understand diabetes. I love carbs and that will be tough for me. I have also noticed friends reactions are odd, 'oh u can reverse that' or the best one is ' oh type 2 is not serious like type 1' 'lose a few pounds and it will go away'! I had to point out that my weight is nothing like some of my friends who dont have diabetes and that it isnt wholly down to lifestyle as is reflected in my cholestrol of 4.6!
This may help you understand T2D a bit more:
You just have to get past her squeaky voice but I found it a clear explanation what is going on.
 
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