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Type 2's: What was your fasting blood glucose in a morning?

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I don't know you go out for the day and come backs to pages and pages to catch up on. Just to add my worms to the pile. The diabetic specialist at my practice also told me not to aim to go much lower than I am now. My last HbA1c was 46. He said it was just like food, too little is as bad as too much!

Anyway just a quick update - saw the liver specialist today. Saw the head man as the specialist I saw last time has moved on. He was extremely pleased with how I am doing. He said the weight loss was excellent and that now that I pretty much have my bs levels also under control, he believes that the NAFLD will reverse itself as long as I keep everything up including the exercise. So that's all really good. I have to go back in June which he said will most likely be the last time he needs to see me as long as I continue doing what I am doing now.

The only blot on the horizon is that they are not happy with my alpha-1 anti trypsin levels. Apparently they are a little low. So they are doing some more tests - I had to give buckets of blood again lol I am not sure what the alpha 1 anti trypsin are about but he told me not to worry.

Anyway after a day full of tests and lots of walking I'm feeling happy but knackered.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Thanks for the graph @pavlosn

So quite a large number in the 5.5 to 5.9 range. That puts those people in the range of 6.2 to 6.8mmol/l on average, so assuming they have normal fasting levels (and overnight) and pre-meals in the 4's or low 5's, they must spend a lot of time up in the 8's. That is comforting! :)
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I understand that they do go above 8 but do not stay there for very long.

You may like to have a look at this non diabetic continuous glucose monitoring graphs from another thread on this forum.

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/FREESTYLE-LIBRE-ON-SALE!!!!.65900/#post-695267
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Have you tried the Hovis Wholemeal Seed Sensations? That is the best one for me. I haven't tried the 50/50.
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Not since I've been LCHF @Bluetit1802 as I don't eat bread anymore except for the occasional fried slice perhaps once a month. I had a slice of fried bread with a fried egg at lunchtime today (Hovis 50/50) and +2 I was 6.9; +3 - 5.8
 
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pavlosn said:
I understand that they do go above 8 but do not stay there for very long.

You may like to have a look at this non diabetic continuous glucose monitoring graphs from another thread on this forum.

http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/FREESTYLE-LIBRE-ON-SALE!!!!.65900/#post-695267
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That's what I understood too (although I can't see a graph on the page that link takes me to). I don't understand to be honest how their average mmol/l is in the 6's if they don't have 7's and 8's for the same length of time as they have 4's and 5's.
 
JohnD54 said:
So on this same theme as to what levels T2 should try to attain, we come to the normal conclusion, we are each individual's and as such like most things in life are all different.

Personally I'm to new to all this to have a valid opinion , however currently if I can keep-in the non diabetic range I am happy,
Whether this is right or wrong I don't know , but what I do know is the mind is a powerful tool and if im happy my body is likely to be happy too, not scientific but that's the way I roll.

Have a super evening everyone, just off to the dining room to have fillet steak, sweet potatoe roasties, mushrooms and a little vodka and diet coke.

Happy days.
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All opinion is valid.... I'm with you on that - the mind is definitely a powerful thing
 
dianagrace said:
Not since I've been LCHF @Bluetit1802 as I don't eat bread anymore except for the occasional fried slice perhaps once a month. I had a slice of fried bread with a fried egg at lunchtime today (Hovis 50/50) and +2 I was 6.9; +3 - 5.8
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Bought some of that to try today - reduced price in Sainsbury's...now in freezer. The granary version, I found when I got home is 6g carbs more per slice than the wholemeal one....
 
OK BASMATI RICE DEFINITELY A NO NO for me. 6.1 pre 9.5 one hour later 9.6 2 hours later 7.3 thankfully 3 hours later. Why should I be surprised?. I think maybe magically life will be like the good old bad old days again:banghead::banghead::banghead:
 
beatdise said:
OK BASMATI RICE DEFINITELY A NO NO for me. 6.1 pre 9.5 one hour later 9.6 2 hours later 7.3 thankfully 3 hours later. Why should I be surprised?. I think maybe magically life will be like the good old bad old days again:banghead::banghead::banghead:
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Stop experimenting you deluded twit I say to myself. Get back on the straight and narrow! Get your 3 months clean under your belt then maybe maybe....
 
beatdise said:
Stop experimenting you deluded twit I say to myself. Get back on the straight and narrow! Get your 3 months clean under your belt then maybe maybe....
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I tend to agree with your inner voice.
 
beatdise said:
OK BASMATI RICE DEFINITELY A NO NO for me. 6.1 pre 9.5 one hour later 9.6 2 hours later 7.3 thankfully 3 hours later. Why should I be surprised?. I think maybe magically life will be like the good old bad old days again:banghead::banghead::banghead:
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Some people have found basmati to be ok. Maybe a smaller portion next time?
 
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beatdise said:
Stop experimenting you deluded twit I say to myself. Get back on the straight and narrow! Get your 3 months clean under your belt then maybe maybe....
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Experimenting is the only way to find what you can and cannot eat. Obviously pies, pastries, cakes etc I wouldn't recommend you try.......
 
For anyone interested, a link to the A1C-Derived Average Glucose (ADAG) study, an interesting ( to me at least :-) study of glucose levels of non diabetic individuals put on continuous glucose monitors.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892065/

Here is an abstract as well:


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Abstract
Aims/hypothesis

Real-life glycaemic profiles of healthy individuals are poorly studied. Our aim was to analyse to what extent individuals without diabetes exceed OGTT thresholds for impaired glucose tolerance (IGT) and diabetes.

Methods

In the A1C-Derived Average Glucose (ADAG) study, 80 participants without diabetes completed an intensive glucose monitoring period of 12 weeks. From these data, we calculated the average 24 h glucose exposure as time spent above different plasma glucose thresholds. We also derived indices of postprandial glucose levels, glucose variability and HbA1c.

Results

We found that 93% of participants reached glucose concentrations above the IGT threshold of 7.8 mmol/l and spent a median of 26 min/day above this level during continuous glucose monitoring. Eight individuals (10%) spent more than 2 h in the IGT range. They had higher HbA1c, fasting plasma glucose (FPG), age and BMI than those who did not. Seven participants (9%) reached glucose concentrations above 11.1 mmol/l during monitoring.

Conclusions/interpretation

Even though the non-diabetic individuals monitored in the ADAG study were selected on the basis of a very low level of baseline FPG, 10% of these spent a considerable amount of time at glucose levels considered to be ‘prediabetic’ or indicating IGT. This highlights the fact that exposure to moderately elevated glucose levels remains under-appreciated when individuals are classified on the basis of isolated glucose measurements

Pavlos
 
5.3 this morning gave exercising a miss last night. Feeling much better I'm 95% back to my normal self again.....And off to work I go
 
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