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Type 2's: What was your fasting blood glucose in a morning?

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Bluetit1802 said:
It's the same batch, and part way through a tub. It was the previous tub I didn't like. This one started OK then deteriorated :( it clearly isn't the strips in this tub because bedtime last night, fasting today, and post breakfast levels I have double checked against my Accu Chek. There are no significant differences. So obviously, it is me! Must try harder.
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Well I must say my codefree meter seems to be giving me some very odd results. Certainly higher than my accucheck aviva was giving me. Seems to be more volatility too. Apart from last night my food has been pretty much the same. So the juries out for me guys on the Codefree for now.
 
beatdise said:
Well I must say my codefree meter seems to be giving me some very odd results. Certainly higher than my accucheck aviva was giving me. Seems to be more volatility too. Apart from last night my food has been pretty much the same. So the juries out for me guys on the Codefree for now.
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Which batch of strips are you on? (It's on each box and each pot.)
 
alliebee said:
We all have odd moments of weakness..mine last night was some Tiramisu. My all time fave...had a low carb meal but suddenly got my Christmas head on....now I'm at target weight I tolerate carbs better than before...but there is a price to.pay...once I give in a bit and have carbs. Although tiramisu not awful as its marscapone and I had mine with cream...didn't dare test. My fasting was a bit higher this morning...
My gp is a type 2. And he follows a lchf diet ( I'm so lucky ) has warned me this week that my recent low readings in the day. Average 5.1 are too low...he has researched in depth and apparently readings below normal can be as harmful as high readings..I checked this with my Endo dr friend and he wholeheartedly agrees so I must find a balance once again with carbs..not losing anymore weight but not wanting carb cravings to re surface....
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VERY HELPFUL> I must admit I feel most comfortable at a sort pf 6 to 7 range. I just feel different and at ease with myself. I also think that if I get down to below 5's the system then thinks there is a problem and my BS levels then shoot up massively say above 8's, maybe a liver dump thinks the body needs a top up. I don't feel great then either. My ideal would be 6 to 7.5 that's it.
 
pavlosn said:
You will note that most non diabetics are in the 5-5,4% range.

In fact only 23% of non diabetics have hbA1c of less than 5%

The corresponding percentage for the 5-5,9 range is 69%

While for the prediabetic range 6-6,4% is 8%
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Thanks Pavlos :)

I'd be very pleased with an HbA1c in the 5.3-5.5% range (around 35-36 mmol/mol).
 
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Hi guys I have been putting all my numbers into a spreadsheet. I have highlighted in red, amber or green. So anything over 8 is a red, 7 and over is amber and anything below is green. This way I can see when the spikes have happened how often and why. The numbers start with fasting on the left the white columns are mainly the one hour numbers the 6 largely green columns are my before and after. Breakfast, Lunch and dinner. So you can see more ambers and reds recently as I have tried to reintroduce carbs to see if my resistance is improving. So clearly NOT yet able
 

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cold ethyl said:
No can of worms but a really interesting topic that I have been thinking about for ages.. Hence my waffly posts about wondering what levels a non diabetic might reach.
I don't think we can tell anyone what is best for them, but I am coming round to idea that I maybe don't need to run myself at such low levels all the time.. Keep posting stuff you two as I'm finding it all fascinating and food for thought.
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I wonder if the difference with non-diabetics is that while they are mostly in lower ranges, they do rise and fall quite rapidly, depending on what they eat. We diabetics on the other hand are more static and aim for smaller rises, therefore our "lows" are more regular/permanent and perhaps it is these consistent lows that GP's are not happy about....? But what do I know....?
 
alliebee said:
My partner paid privately for an HBa1c. And it came back 5.6%.. he is fit. Normal weight and bmi. I've tested him before and after and high carb meals and he has hit 9.3 after a meal. Back to 5.8 or 6 after 2 hours
I think I have indeed opened a can of worms
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A very interesting can of worms though. ....
 
pavlosn said:
My mind has always been full of worms. I've always been too clever for my own good, always questioning and always finding holes in other people's logic, or worse my own:-)

It does not always make me very popular. :-(
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An enquiring mind is an interesting mind. There is a proper saying abt an enquiring mind - can anyone recall what it is? :confused:
 
So now we have 'autopsies' and 'can of worms' in the same thread :eek:
 
pavlosn said:
My mind has always been full of worms. I've always been too clever for my own good, always questioning and always finding holes in other people's logic, or worse my own:)

It does not always make me very popular. :-(
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Very Healthy philosophy excuse the pun.
 
Thanks for the graph @pavlosn

So quite a large number in the 5.5 to 5.9 range. That puts those people in the range of 6.2 to 6.8mmol/l on average, so assuming they have normal fasting levels (and overnight) and pre-meals in the 4's or low 5's, they must spend a lot of time up in the 8's. That is comforting! :)
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Thanks for the graph @pavlosn

So quite a large number in the 5.5 to 5.9 range. That puts those people in the range of 6.2 to 6.8mmol/l on average, so assuming they have normal fasting levels (and overnight) and pre-meals in the 4's or low 5's, they must spend a lot of time up in the 8's. That is comforting! :)
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YES I am comforted too that's REAL
 
Bluetit1802 said:
Thanks for the graph @pavlosn

So quite a large number in the 5.5 to 5.9 range. That puts those people in the range of 6.2 to 6.8mmol/l on average, so assuming they have normal fasting levels (and overnight) and pre-meals in the 4's or low 5's, they must spend a lot of time up in the 8's. That is comforting! :)
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I'm glad you worked that out as that was my next job tonight.
 
So on this same theme as to what levels T2 should try to attain, we come to the normal conclusion, we are each individual's and as such like most things in life are all different.

Personally I'm to new to all this to have a valid opinion , however currently if I can keep-in the non diabetic range I am happy,
Whether this is right or wrong I don't know , but what I do know is the mind is a powerful tool and if im happy my body is likely to be happy too, not scientific but that's the way I roll.

Have a super evening everyone, just off to the dining room to have fillet steak, sweet potatoe roasties, mushrooms and a little vodka and diet coke.

Happy days.
 
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