Hi and evening, thank you for the balanced reply, the our way or the highway was wearing thin, I'm sorry to report in like this but that's how it feels from some members.The bars might be the diarrhoea culprit. Check for maltitol in the ingredients. It’s a common side effect and they might affect your blood sugars too despite claiming not to. Try dropping them for now
Print off the food lists, or copy them out from dietdoctor as a quick ready reckoner of what to eat. Pick a couple of fats for cooking (I use butter and olive oil and occasionally coconut oil). Avoid marg and oils like vegetable, sunflower etc. Avoid processed foods where most trans fats lurk. Keep it simple til you get your head around it. Read the labels or look up carb content to find out if you can eat something or not. If you’re really still worried focus on the “Mediterranean “ fats eg oily fish nuts and olive oils that the dr will approve of.
Did your carer really understand xpert anyway ? Sounds like an excuse to me. Did you provide a list of what to shop for? Maybe that would help.
What medically proven studies have you been directed to that convince you of the xpert and low fat ways? There are numberous that support what we all keep telling They are out there. This forum has many links posted daily. You’ve had a fair number in this and other posts. Go look again at Zoe harcombe or Ivor Cummings. At the end of the day there is little in medicine or nutrition that is universally accepted by all. Look at the studies personally or believe someone’s ‘opinion’ of them (us in here, a nurse, a dr or a different nurse or dr as they all vary) its a choice we all have to make.
At review just tell them for now you’re focusing on fresh unprocessed foods without sugar and reducing the bread rice pasta etc and using healthy fats like olive oil. Ok you might be doing a little more than that but if you aren’t ready to have that argument yet then don’t. Wait and see what results it brings you in 3 months time (next hb1ac).
Two scrambled egg and 2 bacon would not hit the sides, I would double this and then have some full fat Greek yogurt with a few berries.
Q. I’m going to be blunt. You have had as much well meaning and self followed advice on here as anyone else if not more in a short space of time. You have been given links to self study the science behind that advice. Have you gone to these links and read more? You have had the same contradictory advice from the nhs almost all of us have had. (by the way some nhs drs fully support low carb and higher saturated fats eg dr Unwin gp and dr malhotra cardiologist ) I appreciate you’ve had the scary experience of heart issues that fortunately many of us haven’t experienced. An estranged partner must have its challenges as a carer! I am assuming there are reasons you cannot shop (online?) and cook for yourself as you have a carer, so you do need someone who will follow your lead and wishes rather than someone to battle with.Hi and evening, thank you for the balanced reply, the our way or the highway was wearing thin, I'm sorry to report in like this but that's how it feels from some members.
Here's the thing, the XPERT was delivered by two well qualified medics, I came with open mind as I did here, I managed to get my carer who's my estranged wife a place on the course to stop the arguments over food, so she'd know what to buy and prepare.
Years ago we were having the same kicking off when it was lasagne on Mondays, soup and bread on Tuesdays etc and I was asked to go with her shopping. I saw fundus crispy pancakes and commented I'd seen them on TV and they looked nice. Two weeks later all variety of them were in the freezer when I mentioned we were now having them twice a week I was told I picked them.
I used to cook breakfast on weekends and eventually took on over weekly supermarket shop and brought variety to the table, I tried to cook but breakfast was my limit. I just wanted to get this out as it look like my fault, I've tried. She throws in my face ' you went on XPERT course ate carbs lost weight and next Hba1c was lowest ever, so why are you listening to these die hards on that forum ' it's hard to return serve which is why I'm so down hearted. There isn't the evidence to outweigh XPERT vs LCHF.
and, after many posts I still dont know what a trans fat is, still can't find much to suggest saturated is OK. Two scrambled eggs and two bacon isn't enough to stop the snacking until dinner and instead I get math formula n=1 (n = number of components the rest is garble). I dont know if I've stopped in the right place here and not sure where else to go to help me buy in to this lifestyle vs the NHS, its not a crime to be well informed and to know where the data coming from. I dont know what I'll for without someone to look after me, I dont think some of the drugs I now take are helping, Jim's way of explaining ' blood glucose is elastic' filled in so many blanks. I couldn't give a ****** really about the DN and the NHS and challenging, I want to know how we got to fats and stuff are good and better for you. I can't see me living out my days eating chia seeds, I'd feed seeds to the birds.
Its awkward by text alone isn't it easy for either side to be confused can't cope with the defensive behavior of anyone on any subject if they can't back it up.
Got nothin else to do tonight but to try and fix it all in my mind, two polarising opinions isn't easy.
Good evening to all tonight, best wishes Q.
It is difficult to prove that fat is good or bad because proof requires long and comicated trials involving thousands of participants. For many years the medical world demonised all fats. Then trials started to differentiate between different types of fats. At the moment the jury is out, but thinking has swung slightly towards the view that only trans fats are harmful and that some fats are actually health enhancing. The only way to form an opinion is to plough through the medical reports and decide for yourself. I did this when I was diagnosed as T2 and I decided to eat little carbs and more fat(excluding trans fats). I lost 7% of my weight in 8 months, NY HBA1C fell from 53 to 40 and a whole raft of other medical conditions including asthma, irritable bowel and an irregular heart beat have all but gone. My cholesterol is in the normal range despite the extra fat consumption. Some doctors and nurses still think I am a fool to increase my fat consumption. Only time will tell, but to me the experiment has worked. It's up to you to decide what is best for you. The evidence is out there, but it is detailed and you need to research it yourself. No one can give a quick answer I'm afraid.Sarcasm doesnt do it for me Jim, keep it. Give me a knock when you have some medically / scientific proven evidence.
Hoping you're well, best wishes Q.
Or one can trawl through the forum and note how many members have upped their good fats, improved their cholesterol levels and reduced their blood sugar levels too. Not science as we know it Captain Kirk but valid all the same. I include myself in that data too.It is difficult to prove that fat is good or bad because proof requires long and comicated trials involving thousands of participants. For many years the medical world demonised all fats. Then trials started to differentiate between different types of fats. At the moment the jury is out, but thinking has swung slightly towards the view that only trans fats are harmful and that some fats are actually health enhancing. The only way to form an opinion is to plough through the medical reports and decide for yourself. I did this when I was diagnosed as T2 and I decided to eat little carbs and more fat(excluding trans fats). I lost 7% of my weight in 8 months, NY HBA1C fell from 53 to 40 and a whole raft of other medical conditions including asthma, irritable bowel and an irregular heart beat have all but gone. My cholesterol is in the normal range despite the extra fat consumption. Some doctors and nurses still think I am a fool to increase my fat consumption. Only time will tell, but to me the experiment has worked. It's up to you to decide what is best for you. The evidence is out there, but it is detailed and you need to research it yourself. No one can give a quick answer I'm afraid.
Thanks for the reply, YES, I have read the links provided I've always been a swat and passionately care about my health and want to become very informed about them all.It is difficult to prove that fat is good or bad because proof requires long and comicated trials involving thousands of participants. For many years the medical world demonised all fats. Then trials started to differentiate between different types of fats. At the moment the jury is out, but thinking has swung slightly towards the view that only trans fats are harmful and that some fats are actually health enhancing. The only way to form an opinion is to plough through the medical reports and decide for yourself. I did this when I was diagnosed as T2 and I decided to eat little carbs and more fat(excluding trans fats). I lost 7% of my weight in 8 months, NY HBA1C fell from 53 to 40 and a whole raft of other medical conditions including asthma, irritable bowel and an irregular heart beat have all but gone. My cholesterol is in the normal range despite the extra fat consumption. Some doctors and nurses still think I am a fool to increase my fat consumption. Only time will tell, but to me the experiment has worked. It's up to you to decide what is best for you. The evidence is out there, but it is detailed and you need to research it yourself. No one can give a quick answer I'm afraid.
That’s not quite true. There are a lot of useful statistics here on the forum. They are just not laid out neatly and summarised. Trawl through the forum and you will see them. That’s what I did. It took me a few weeks though.......there is only opinion here,
Thank you for that, I will. Start me off then with a link from here on fats and the credibility it holds in new thinking, please. Kind regards, Q.That’s not quite true. There are a lot of useful statistics here on the forum. They are just not laid out neatly and summarised. Trawl through the forum and you will see them. That’s what I did. It took me a few weeks though.
Thank you for that, I will. Start me off then with a link from here on fats and the credibility it holds in new thinking, please. Kind regards, Q.
PS I found this video helpful in understanding fats and what they do to our bodies.Thank you for that, I will. Start me off then with a link from here on fats and the credibility it holds in new thinking, please. Kind regards, Q.
Like I said, Q. There is no nice convenient link that I used. The data is disseminated throughout a myriad of forum threads - in the detail provided by many members of their eating habits, their blood sugar levels and their cholesterol related results that they post. It then leaves the reader to summarise and digest that data. Something I am certain has not been overlooked by the site ownership. The final outcome is greater than the sum of its parts so if you simply take one individual and their stats alone it doesn’t count for much, but take a large sample and go through the stats one by one and you can reach your own conclusions.Thank you for that, I will. Start me off then with a link from here on fats and the credibility it holds in new thinking, please. Kind regards, Q.
Here is another video, with Dr Aseem Malhotra, a consultant cardiologist and highly respected member of the medical profession:Thank you for that, I will. Start me off then with a link from here on fats and the credibility it holds in new thinking, please. Kind regards, Q.
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