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Variation in carbs tolerance for Type2s

lucylocket61 said:
Again, define what you mean by high carbs please.

Any level higher than a particular person, at a particular time, can handle, is too high for that individual, regardless of the specific amount. That level will vary from person to person, at a different times in a person.
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Ah, perhaps my question was not mindful of the possibility that, among non-diabetics, there could be high variation in the amount of carbs that they could well tolerate. So, whereas the Taylor thesis says that T2D arises when we carry more fat than our own threshold can cope with, you transpose this as ingesting more carbs than our own threshold for that can cope with.
 
chrisjohnh said:
Ah, perhaps my question was not mindful of the possibility that, among non-diabetics, there could be high variation in the amount of carbs that they could well tolerate. So, whereas the Taylor thesis says that T2D arises when we carry more fat than our own threshold can cope with, you transpose this as ingesting more carbs than our own threshold for that can cope with.
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I think this is likely, along with the concept of type 2 being a myriad of connected and similar conditions rather than one homogeneous one.

I was very mindful of sugar for many years before diagnosis and naturally was disinclined to eat bread, pasta rice or potatoes in anything other than very small quantities. So for me I don‘t think excessive carbs played a huge role. I carried a bit of extra weight but wasn’t obese. I wasn’t overly sporty but wasn’t a couch potato either. I tend to play the genetic’s card but really who knows for sure
 
HSSS said:
I think this is likely, along with the concept of type 2 being a myriad of connected and similar conditions rather than one homogeneous one.

I was very mindful of sugar for many years before diagnosis and naturally was disinclined to eat bread, pasta rice or potatoes in anything other than very small quantities. So for me I don‘t think excessive carbs played a huge role. I carried a bit of extra weight but wasn’t obese. I wasn’t overly sporty but wasn’t a couch potato either. I tend to play the genetic’s card but really who knows for sure
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Well, this notion of multiple facets and nuances to T2D gives me much pause for thought! Thank you for expressing it.
 
chrisjohnh said:
Ah, perhaps my question was not mindful of the possibility that, among non-diabetics, there could be high variation in the amount of carbs that they could well tolerate. So, whereas the Taylor thesis says that T2D arises when we carry more fat than our own threshold can cope with, you transpose this as ingesting more carbs than our own threshold for that can cope with.
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Ah yes. Think about it, Excess carbs are stored as glycogen in our cells and liver. when the liver is full it gets converted into trigs, that are stored as fat in the adippose tissue. Where is the major site of adipose tissue? It is protecting our visceral organs in out midriff. so our waistline expandes, which is the condition associated with T2D called Metabolic Syndrome. So when Taylor references fat, it is not the fat we eat it is the fat we store our excesses in.

High calorie diets will build up excess baggage unless we use it up by burning it off with exercise or by fasting.

It is also shown that excess fructose gets stored in the liver as trigs i.e. as fat in the liver. So high calorie plus high fructose intake is very bad for us. The use of High Fructose Corn syrup (HFCS) in prepared commercial foodstuffs is a major contributor, but other sugar alcohols and starch derivatives are just as guilty. A low carb diet uses mainly fresh food not processed food, so avoids a lot of these additives.
 
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