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I see you have posted 18 success stories for vegan's with type 1. That's great.Firstly, and in case you missed it, I attached a set of success and in-progress stories to an earlier post. Within those pages are a host of both insulin and non-insulin-dependent diabetics, improving their numbers on large amounts of healthy carbs.
Secondly, I don't really understand your dismissal of the data from those with type I. Surely, the best chance of understanding he interaction between carb intake and insulin would be gained via studying those whose lives literally depend on getting that equation right. So when someone presents their experience that increasing carbs leads to a lessening of insulin needs, or increased sensitivity with the same amount of insulin, I don't understand why that isn't sparking curiosity. And in a community that rightfully places necessary importance on anecdotes, why are anecdotes that present contrary information so easily dismissed?
I am very insulin sensitive and only need a very low dose of basal as I follow Bernstein. For me humous and lentils spike my blood sugars as they are high in carbohydrates, so as much as I love them avoid them.
Bernstein lists carbs that won't spike your blood sugars like green leafy vegetables. That's all I eat. No more than 30 grams of these carbohydrates a day. For me, I don't want to end up with complications of diabetes by spiking my blood sugars by eating high carbohydrates. The Bernstein success for type 1's is that they reduce the amount of insulin they need and have flatter blood sugars. An average type 1 without insulin resistance needs roughly about 30 to 50% of their weight in insulin units to eat normally. On Berstein, I need about 15% of my weight in insulin units.Perhaps I'm wrong, but my idea of insulin sensitivity is being able to deal with carbs without issues. Of course, there's a spike (it's impossible to eat carbs without one). The issue is whether you buy into the (I believe) false premise that any sugar...ever, in the blood, is a bad thing.
Firstly, and in case you missed it, I attached a set of success and in-progress stories to an earlier post. Within those pages are a host of both insulin and non-insulin-dependent diabetics, improving their numbers on large amounts of healthy carbs.
Secondly, I don't really understand your dismissal of the data from those with type I. Surely, the best chance of understanding he interaction between carb intake and insulin would be gained via studying those whose lives literally depend on getting that equation right. So when someone presents their experience that increasing carbs leads to a lessening of insulin needs, or increased sensitivity with the same amount of insulin, I don't understand why that isn't sparking curiosity. And in a community that rightfully places necessary importance on anecdotes, why are anecdotes that present contrary information so easily dismissed?
I see you have posted 18 success stories for vegan's with type 1. That's great.
Type 1 Grit on Dr Bernstein has 45,000 + success stories. Diabetes.co.uk has even more success stories for LCHF.
It's great as a type 1 you can have success on many different diets if you follow your blood sugars as on insulin you get to choose what you eat.
It is great. I'm expecting that number to keep increasing, os if you have any interest perhaps keep an eye on those site.
Bottom line, there are an ever-increasing number of cases of those that are increasing their insulin sensitivity by increasing carbs. I'd like to think that we would welcome Hannah, congratulate her and just be happy that she is finding her way to health improvements
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Hi @Beating-My-Betes,
For some people, high carb low fat (HCLF) may well work. My guess would be that it is those who are naturally insulin-sensitive, which would include many T1s. My husband, for example is slim and non-diabetic, eats lots of sugar and other carbs and has no problems.
However, by and large, most T2s seem to have a genetic make-up that doesn't deal well with carbs (though there maybe exceptions) and for us low-carb seems a good way of avoiding complications. If high carb works for you and your blood sugar levels, the more power to you.
As for spikes (and this is not just an opionion in the low carb community) -- there seems to be some evidence that any spike over 140 mg/dl (or 7.8 mmol) is damaging to our bodies. Jenny Ruhl has compiled some scientific studies on her website that seem to support this. Here is a link -- in case you are interested https://www.bloodsugar101.com/organ-damage-and-blood-sugar-level
@Hannah Robyn -- Congrats on your brilliant results.
wow this derailed
this has been incredibly disappointing. It was not my intention to try to convert people to high carb vegan, or to demonise meat, or to prove anything incredible. i'm just sharing my story
i am nowhere near well informed enough to hold my own in a discussion like this!
wow this derailed
this has been incredibly disappointing. It was not my intention to try to convert people to high carb vegan, or to demonise meat, or to prove anything incredible. i'm just sharing my story
i am nowhere near well informed enough to hold my own in a discussion like this!
I apologise. I had no idea Hannah is a type 1. There is nothing on her information to indicate this.Everyone, this is my last call to order before I start deleting multiple posts.
This is not a thread to discuss the benefits of low carb for T2s. You can create separate threads to discuss that.
This thread was started by a T1 talking about how their insulin needs have reduced on a vegan unprocessed diet.
There will be no further warnings that off topic posts will be deleted.
It's mentioned in the first line of her postI apologise. I had no idea Hannah is a type 1. There is nothing on her information to indicate this.
slaps head in dismay. Off to beat myself with a pot noodle lolIt's mentioned in the first line of her post
To make sure no more pot noodle slapping is needed I added a "type 1" prefix to the threadslaps head in dismay. Off to beat myself with a pot noodle lol
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