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Type 1 Very high blood sugers

Discussion in 'Ask A Question' started by ianhumpy, Mar 21, 2016.

  1. ianhumpy

    ianhumpy Type 1 · Member

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    Hi im getting very high blood sugers readings for the last 2 week . In there 20s at the min . Any ideas how to get it down it cant be healthy for my body doctors are useless i dont know what to do
     
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    azure Type 1 · Expert

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    Sometimes infections or illnesses can cause high sugars, even something like a cold.

    My other thought is is your insulin ok? Sometimes it can go off and not work as well as normal. Changing your pen, cartridge or vial can be a wise precaution.

    Welcome to the forum :)
     
  3. ianhumpy

    ianhumpy Type 1 · Member

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    Not been ill or anything . I feel run down and tired at the minute . Ill check my pens cheers
     
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  4. himtoo

    himtoo Type 1 · Well-Known Member
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    Hi ian
    welcome to the forum.:)

    is the being run down and tired due to work ? If so just the added stress of this could be driving those numbers up too.

    But definitely get the insulin in the pens changed to be safe.

    all the best !!
     
  5. ianhumpy

    ianhumpy Type 1 · Member

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    Ive not worked for last 2 month i was in hospital for a couple of week with high blood and keytones i was on a drip and other things i went in with blood sugers of nearly 40 and didnt even no i was diabetic was really ill for months but doctors just kept sending me away
     
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    ianhumpy Type 1 · Member

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    Hi . Im on 50ml of slow release and 22ml of rapid 4 times a day and doesnt seem to be doing its job at the min feel tired and headaches alot . What are you on ?
     
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    gab_07 Type 1 · Member

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    I've had T1 for almost 9 years, I'm 20 now and living away from my family at Uni 2 hrs from home. I started on an omnipod a couple of weeks ago... It's been a bit up and down since but over the past couple of days its been ridiculously high, 15-20 ish, and just will not come down really after countless corrections. I even changed my pump last night... when i first got the pump i was hypo loads, making me think i was massively sensitive to the insulin. but it's just started going high these past couple of days... i've raised my background basal
     
  8. slip

    slip Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Are you under the care of a Diabetes Hospital clinic? Speak to your DSN if you have one or GP if not.

    That seems a lot of insulin but then again we're all different - what are you eating?
     
  9. ianhumpy

    ianhumpy Type 1 · Member

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    Hi gab you got it at a young age then . I dont know what a pump or basal is sorry . Im on novi rapid and slow release . Im trying coreection doses now
     
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    ianhumpy Type 1 · Member

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    Hi slip . Ive rung hospital awaiting a call back . I eat all diffrent thing ive had 1 tuna sandwich today at dinner nothing else
     
  11. ianhumpy

    ianhumpy Type 1 · Member

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    O right . Not really ive just put 12 ml in to see what happens
     
  12. himtoo

    himtoo Type 1 · Well-Known Member
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    Hi Ian
    I am tagging @daisy1 to provide her fabulous starter reading pack.
    there will be a lot in there that might help answer some things for you.

    all the best !
     
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  13. ianhumpy

    ianhumpy Type 1 · Member

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    Yes sorry units
     
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    ianhumpy Type 1 · Member

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    Cheets
     
  15. daisy1

    daisy1 Type 2 · Legend
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    @ianhumpy

    Hello Ian and welcome to the forum :) Here is the information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask more questions when you want and someone will be able to help.

    BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

    Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

    A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you’ll find over 150,000 people who are demonstrating this.

    On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

    The role of carbohydrate

    Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

    If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

    The bad news

    Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

    The good news

    People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

    Controlling your carbs

    The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.
    There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:

    • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
    • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates

    Reduce your carbohydrates

    A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

    The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

    Choosing better carbohydrates

    Another option is to replace ‘white carbohydrates’ (such as white bread, white rice, white flour etc) with whole grain varieties. The idea behind having whole grain varieties is that the carbohydrates get broken down slower than the white varieties –and these are said to have a lower glycaemic index.
    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/food/diabetes-and-whole-grains.html

    The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

    Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes

    LOW CARB PROGRAM:
    http://www.diabetes.co.uk/low carb program


    Eating what works for you

    Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

    To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

    The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

    Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
    • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
    Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
    • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
    • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
    However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

    Access to blood glucose test strips

    The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:

    • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
    • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

    Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to bloodglucose testing supplies.

    You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic

    Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
     
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    jbcat Type 2 · Member

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    Excellent piece of information "daisy1"
     
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    nigelho Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    Hi Ian,

    I'd consider doing carb counting instead of injecting a set amount of novorapid at each meal. ask you DSN to teach you how to carb count and how to work out what ratio's to use. There is also a chance that the novorapid has stopped working. Mine did about 2 years ago and I changed to Apidra. What ratio do you use for your dose correction and what mmols do you aim for? You need to match the carbs eaten vs the amount of insulin injected. 22 units of novorapid at each meal is a lot especially normally, but as it's clearly working you may have become more insulin resistant. I am very insulin resistant and in addition to my Apidra I take 2 X 500mg Metformin SR tablets for each meal and I do carb count. Get yourself on the DAFNE COURSE. Do you inject the 50 units long lasting in one go and at what time of the day do you inject this. Are you having 4 meals a day to be injecting 22 units novorapid 4 times. What ever you doing is clearly not working. You'll get more help on the DAFNE Course. If you're still very high get yourself to A&E as you've been high for quite a while there is a chance of ketones in the blood.
     
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    ParentOf Parent · Newbie

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    The best thing to do is get in touch with your Diabetes team if you have one. Speak to them about the Basal-Bolus regime. This is where you'd inject once a day (pre bed) with a slow release insulin, such as Lantus, then for your meals you'd calculate the carbohydrates of that meal and inject insulin according to an insulin to carbohydrate ratio, which to begin with you'd need to adjust until it's a right fit for you. Just injecting a set amount of novo-rapid insulin 3 times a day won't really help much.
    (When my middle son was on 4 injections per day of set units of insulin, his bG levels were all over the place, however when my eldest son was diagnosed, they were both put onto the Basal-Bolus system and it has been so much easier to manage).
     
  19. parking meter

    parking meter Type 1 · Newbie

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    Calm yourself first of all you cannot control any levels if your stressed out.

    Mod edit to remove advice on insulin dosage adjustment.
     
  20. home

    home · Newbie

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    Drink lost of water
     
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