Vitamin D deficient

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Hi all. Been to see consultant today, what a treat got a gorgeous lovely bloke! Not my usual one, a guy who becomes a consultant in 4months time n then heads off back home! sob sob.... Am staying on combination of both victoza and levemir. see how I go and do with them ? Was told my blood tests revealed my vitamin D levels were on the floor [his words] he wants me to start 3monthly vitamin D injections with 1 tablet a day as well. Would like to know if there is anything else in way of foods n diet I can raise the levels? bit like milk=calcium ? Nice foods if poss? Anyone else had or got vitamin D deficiency and can give me any tips, advice? Thanks Anna.
 

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Hi Anna

I'm vitamin D deficient too, but probably not so bad as you. My gp wouldn't give me the injections so I'm on Calcichew D3 Forte twice a day. I also top up with DLux oral spray. Try and get some natural Vitamin D by getting some sunshine and don't use sunscreen unless you have a very fair skin as it blocks absorbtion of Vitamin D.

I have milk on my breakfast cereal, but apart from that I don't go overboard on trying to get Vitamin D rich foods.

Just as a side issue, it seems that Vitamin D is something that is involved in glucose metabolism and since I have been on the supplements my bs levels are much lower - google Vitamin D deficiency and Diabetes, it is very interesting reading. I know you have been struggling with your bs levels, so hopefully this will make the difference for you.
 

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Hiya! I remember you're the lady who advised me to have the test done, well good job I did take your advice and got it done. Am very pale skinned n very blonde with blue eyes n have remained indoors a lot recently due to each n everytime I ventured out I got bugs, viruses, infections... Am currently fighting my 5th head cold [bunged up] ugh... fed up of it all. He explained the injection serum is a problem with supplies in this country, mine is being flown in from germany. Asked him if I could take tablets n he said no, not with the quantity of it you need. After had it can take the same as you but just 1 tablet of it daily. [the calcichew forteD] Am just so weary drained n knackered. Oh and had blood test today to test for coeliac disease! ??? whats that something to do with gluten in the gut? already have diverticulitis! How long did it take for you to feel more with things? energy return etc? He also wanted look at my tummy too, dont know what for? Never prodded or anything just looked at it? I ache in my joints when my BS gets high also, dont know if its related ? Keep in touch as thanks to you and your advice I did request a vitamin D test. Anna.x
 

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I take 2000 IU of Vitamin D3 daily in the summer, (it has to be Vit D3 to be absorbed properly) and about 4000 IU in the winter. Older people (I'm 61) don't manufacture it as easily as the youngsters, and most of us Brits don't get enough in the winter, no matter how much we are outdoors.

10 minutes a day with your arms and legs exposed to the sun will get your levels up at this time of year (assuming there's any sun!). If you burn, which you sound as if you might, avoid mid-day sun.

Lack of Vit D makes you more susceptible to infection. You'll get better if you get more sun - promise!

Best foods include eggs, some dairy and oily fish. Google for a more comprehensive list - something on the lines of 'Vitamin D foods'.

There is some research around now to suggest that we can take a lot more as a supplement than the RDA suggests. I've been taking the levels I do for 2 years and am still around to boast about it! Again, if you Google something like 'Vit D levels research' you'll get some good articles.

Sunlight is much the best way of getting your levels up, and as I suggest above, there's no need to risk sunburn. The cholesterol under your skin helps make the Vit D you need from the sunlight.

I get my supplements via Ebay.

Viv 8)
 

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I'm so glad that you took my advice, I think Vitamin D deficiency is more widespread than is diagnosed. It took about 3 weeks before I felt better, but it was so marked that people I work with noticed. I still have to watch that I don't overdo things, but the overwhelming tiredness is gone, depression lifted. I'm no longer in the box called chronic fatigue that my GP put me in.

I've been tested twice for coeliac but both times came back negative, but I don't eat wheat now as it gives me stomach cramps and diarrhoea. It makes it difficult to find things to eat when I'm out, but by not replacing bread etc with gluten free varieties I eat less carbs.

It may mean more visits to HCP in the short term, but if they can find out what else is going on in your body and sort it out then you have less things to worry about. Good luck and best wishes.
 

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Hi, thanks so much for your advice, what supplements do you get from ebay? and how much are they? how much you have to take to keep yourself topped up? I eat eggys n love cravendale semiskimmed n flora proactive milk. Plus the benecol plant sterol drinks in origina flavour. Any other foods I can add to these? Anna.x
 

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Hi Anna

Go on to ebay and search Vitamin D3 in Health & Beauty.

The ones I'm taking at the moment are by 'Healthy Origins' (an American firm). 360 capsules @ 2400 IU. These are 600% of the present Recommended Daily Amount, however, so please don't just take my word for it, - read around a bit and make your own mind up. The information is out there - please look at it carefully. Your doctor sounds quite clued up, so you should discuss supplements with him.

They work for me. I used to come out of the winter feeling very depressed, lethargic and worn out, but I've been much better over the last 2 years since I've been taking these.

Viv 8)
 

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An American doctor called Michael Holick has done a lot of research on vitamin D. If you Google his name you'll get lots of info. Give his name to your doctor if necessary, and ask him what he thinks. Holick is genuine, not a quack.

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Hi everyone,

I am sort of new to this forum. Basically, I am currently looking at possible vitamin d tests.
I think I am low on vitamin d but certainly don't want to start taking d supplements all of a sudden. Had a quick look a few sites and these are on my shopping list now;

1- Grassroothealth, seems to be a good option , they sell a vitamin d test by a company called ZRT in the US. I live in UK so would prefer a UK company as shipping and post may take time and be costly
2- Pulsescreenning, this also looks like a good product but unsure about their service, they are based in UK
3- vitamindproject, UK based quite a lot of info on the site and looks very professional but i have no idea which one to go for. I want to get it done quickly , any suggestions?
 

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Hi mssparkle and welcome to the forum, if you think you may be deficient in vit d or anything else for that matter then I would advise you to see your doctor who will be able to diagnose any deficiency and prescribe the correct remedy, be warned a proportion of 'health supplements' on the market are not absorbed into the body and some may even be dangerous or at the least a total waste of money.

As Viv says some of the vit d supplements can be very beneficial but why pay if you can get them on prescription?

Useful link for vit d stuff http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Vitamin ... ciency.htm
 

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anna29 said:
Hi all. Been to see consultant today.....

Hi Anna, why mess about with pills when you have been offered the 'quick fix' course of injections, go for it it could make all the difference for you.

Good luck :D
 

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Hiya Sid, have had the injection and have a vitaminD forte tablet to take once a day daily now.
Am under the consultants script and orders here, and this is what he specified me to have.
Will be having another blood test to recheck my vitaminD levels on the 2nd week of august. Anna.x
 

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Sid, my surgery, good as they are in many respects, won't do blood tests for Vitamin D levels - too expensive! I had to do my own research and then buy my own supplements.

Glad you've had your injection, Anna. Let us know how you go on.

Viv 8)
 

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Hi, I will let you know how I go on . Thanks viv and everyone.
Acceptable levels of 50 or more [results of vitaminD blood test] is okay for own body supplies of well functioning vitaminD. Mine came in at 23.7 less than half of the acceptable level.
Have been told in can take up to 3months to make and supply it sufficiently with medication help.
Anna.x :)
 

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I didn't even know you could get vitamin D supplements. I thought you could only absorb it through sunlight! How the modern world moves on without me.

But I'd still say get out in the sun: you can't beat the natural way to fix things, just do it in short spells so you don't burn. And listen to your doctor and take the supplements he recommends too. Be very wary of buying any drugs of any kind off the internet unless you are absolutely certain of the company you are buying from. Check each one out in a million ways: too many fake drugs are sold on line and you never know if you are getting the fake ones or the real ones. I would stick to what the doctor prescribes, after all, someone up there said our prescriptions are free, so why pay and take the risk, when you can get it free and know it's safe?

Now I'm going off to try and get my sons tested as they are all so lethargic and useless and spend nearly all their time indoors.
 

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My oldest lad takes 2 Adcals a day which contains calcium and vitamin D3, without D3 the body struggles to absorb the calcium.

Nigel
 

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Hi Sid,

Thanks for your advice. The website is quite informative though. I think there is no point having any vitamin d supplements without testing myself at this stage as apperantly high levels of vitamin d raises calcium levels in the blood. so as you suggested i will ask my gp for the test but i heard it is a little difficult to get it prescribed and I wanto to get it done quickly. So let's see what happens!
 

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In late 2008 I was diagnosed with relative deficiency of D3 with a reading of 65 nmol/L, serum levels of greater than 75 nmol/L indicate sufficient D3 levels according to the lab report, all other bloods were fine.

I read extensively and found defiecency of D3 to be linked with these issues I have -- weight loss resistant, T2, endometriosis, a malignant melanoma. I settled on D3 drops taking 4000 iu daily for about 6 months then upped it to 10,000 iu daily. After 12 months I was retested with all my regular bloods and D3 was now 170 -- desired range is up to 140 ! Slightly heavy handed dosing so I scaled it back to 4000 iu a day.

I know that a greater proportion of Australians over 55 years of age are found to be deficient in D3. I arrived in Australia from the UK as an 18 year old in 1970, fair skinned, burnt easily so avoided exposure and used sunscreen liberally. My husband tans easily, swims and wears shorts all summer and basically gets good exposure to sunlight. He too read the research and having impaired FBGs decided to supplement at 4000 ius a day. After a year he asked for a test and was found to be at the lower end of the sufficient range. That is after 12 months of supplementing and sun.

Daughter aged 30 was found to have 'on the floor' levels of D3. She too is fair skinned, works outdoors, suffers from clinical depression, anxiety attacks. Supplemented at the rate of 4000 ius and is in the good range now.

She and I now find we are able to tolerate quite a reasonable amount of time in the sun (three hours of tennis) without sunscreen and do not burn. For the first time in my 59 years I had a summer tan!! Perhaps we lose our ability to absorb D3 as we age. I also think that I inherited low D3 from my mother and I in turn possibly passed on low levels in my children by being deficient during my pregnancies. Will probably never prove this but that is my theory.
 

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Hi, Thank you for your post clearveiws, I found it both interesting AND helpful.
I too have hit the 'buffers' [end] with nudging down my weight despite using victoza and eating very little!
Here in england all I have been told is levels less than 50 is classed as deficient,my fasting lipids/bloods came in at 23.7% so am well below half way . :shock:
Can see with your family members also being low in vitD it is possible to genetically pass it through.
My own maternal mother is vitD deficient too. So as you say maybe 'there' lies the answer?
Anna.x :D