LittleGreyCat
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- Type of diabetes
- Type 2
- Treatment type
- Tablets (oral)
- Dislikes
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Diet drinks - the artificial sweeteners taste vile.
Having to forswear foods I have loved all my life.
Trying to find low carb meals when eating out.
yes, but isn't this thread about HCLF? Such a diet will have those grains, although they will also be accompanied by large amounts of other veg, which will increase the fibre content...
Is ketosis even possible on a HCLF diet? - that was a rhetorical question, cos I don't expect anyone to actually know the answer!
I think that the answer is "generally, no" as ketosis relies on there being insufficient carbohydrates to meet your energy needs and sufficient fats to replace them (eaten or already present in your body).
I will add the rider that the Newcastle Diet has a high(ish) level of carbohydrates related to other constituents and very little fat but I would not regard it as high carbohydrate low fat - more a very low calorie diet:
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- Calories 160
- Protein (g) 14
- Carbohydrate (g) 20
- Fat (g) 3
- Sodium (mg) 220
- Potassium (mg) 470
- Fiber (g) 0
- Vitamins & Minerals 10-30% of RDI
- Lactose (g) <1
Basically, if you are losing any body fat you are probably experiencing ketosis for some of the time (I am assuming that you are metabolising the fats to make up for the energy deficit) but this is probably not the same as being in long term ketosis or being "fat adapted" where your main source of energy is fats.
Ooops! Just talked myself into a corner - yes you can experience ketosis on HCLF as long as you are running an energy deficit which makes you metabolise some of your body fat.
Which in turn makes me wonder if, when you are fasting on only water for an extended period and relying on body fat for all your energy needs, you are actually on zero carbs high fat ?