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by Dr. Ron Fessenden, MD, MPH There have been countless times in the past couple of years during some occasion in which I have been speaking about the health benefits of honey when someone soundly objects, “Oh, I can’t eat honey. I have diabetes. My doctor has told me to avoid all sweets.” Such, unfortunately, is the state of knowledge about honey among the general public and among most health professionals. The conventional wisdom is that honey and diabetes don’t go together.

Rather than arming patients with facts to refute the apparent ignorance of their health care professional – a tactic bound to fail – a better strategy is suggested. Diabetic patients should simply ask their doctor if fruits are permitted in their diets. Since the question is a bit rhetorical, they can have confidence in knowing that honey is permitted. A tablespoon of honey consists of nearly the same carbohydrate content as a cupful of quartered raw apple. The diabetic patient can also be assured that consuming honey will produce a significantly lower blood sugar response than an equivalent amount of sugar or other glucose rich starches.

When consumed regularly over several weeks or months, honey will lower blood

sugar and HbA1c levels. Glycosylated (or glycated) hemoglobin, or HbA1c as it is commonly known, is a marker used by physicians to identify the average plasma glucose (blood sugar) concentration over prolonged periods of time. The measurement will be proportional to the average blood glucose concentration during a period of time typically considered to be one to three months prior to the measurement. Research studies using humans have shown that honey consumption will result in lower blood sugar levels by as much 60 to 100 mg/dl at 60 and 90 minutes following ingestion of a comparable amount of sucrose. Therefore it is not surprising that the HbA1c levels will be lower by as much as 2 to 4%. This dietary change alone would mandate tremendous differences in the treatment recommendation guidelines followed by most physicians. It would no doubt result in much less medicine being prescribed.

In fact, the more advanced one’s glucose intolerance, or in other words the worse their diabetic condition, the greater the positive impact on blood sugar levels from ingesting honey. Logic would dictate that the addition of honey to the diet, along with the elimination of most sugar and HFCS should be the first recommended treatment of choice for Type 2 Diabetes.

It may surprise most Americans to learn that in many countries around the world that is, in fact, the case. How can this be so and what makes honey so tolerable for those with conditions marked by glucose intolerance? The answer is really quite simple. The balance of sugars and the presence of multiple co-factors in honey serve to make this natural food quite different than table sugar, HFCS or other artificial sweeteners. Honey is an intelligent food, an informed food, a miraculous natural substance!

The physiologic mechanisms responsible for this unique response of the body to honey versus other sugars, HFCS or other starches are not completely understood. We do know that honey is directly converted to liver glycogen and does not raise blood sugar levels as does sucrose or HFCS even though it contains the same simple sugars. This fact alone is indication enough to recommend honey for diabetics.

How much honey is enough? Generally, three to five tablespoons of honey a day is sufficient. A good regimen to follow is to consume a tablespoon or two of honey in the morning with fruit or yogurt (diabetics should avoid “low-fat” yogurt as it contains HFCS) or cereal. Another tablespoon should be consumed at bedtime to insure restorative sleep. In between, another one or two tablespoons can be ingested with fruit snacks, in baked goods, or as used in cooking. In addition, honey is an excellent fuel when eaten twenty to thirty minutes prior to exercise.

Honey contains about 60 Calories per tablespoon. Generally, the percentage of ones total caloric requirements provided from simple sugars should not exceed 10%. Thus, the 180 to 300 calories a day provided from honey is sufficient, unless excessive energy demands allow for additional consumption.

Dr. David Baer, from the USDA Human Nutrition Research Center stated at the First International Symposium on Honey and Human Health in January 2008, “Experimental evidence suggests that consumption of honey compared to other sweeteners may improve blood sugar control and insulin sensitivity.” Honey is indeed the sweetener of choice for diabetics.
writen by by Dr. Ron Fessenden, MD, MPH.

Coopes
 
Hmm. Not sure, although I do know honey has many curative properties when applied to wounds etc. I'm only just working out how to eat my way to health so am not sure if I'd want to try this just yet.

I do miss honey especially as I know someone with bee hives so get it straight from the comb with no commercial 'messing about'

I'm sure those on here who've done much more research than me may have an informed comment to make.

Thanks for posting the article Coopes
 
Honey is composed primarily of the sugars glucose and fructose; its third greatest component is water. Honey also contains numerous other types of sugars, as well as acids, proteins and minerals. Sugars are also called sweet carbohydrates.

http://faculty.ksu.edu.sa/sharif/honey/ ... 0Honey.pdf

The above quote is the opening paragraph of a PDF produced by the National Honey Board and as far as I am concerned Honey is just as the above quote says a "sweet carbohydrate". Personally I would rather use up my carbohydrate allowance by eating satisfying quantities of fruit and vegetables rather than cultivating a sweet tooth by eating the 3/5 tablespoons of Honey a day recommended by Dr Ronald Fessenden, M.D.
 
The jury (for me, anyway) is still out on honey. I have an expensive (£15!) jar of manuka honey in my cupboard that I bought to try with Cinnamon.

Like I said - it's sat in the cupboard.

I have tasted it, and there is a distinct antiseptic taste, if you know what I mean...

The more I read up on honey (and manuka honey inparticular) the more I'm edging towards taking between 2 & 5 tsps per day...
 
Patch said:
The jury (for me, anyway) is still out on honey. I have an expensive (£15!) jar of manuka honey in my cupboard that I bought to try with Cinnamon.

Like I said - it's sat in the cupboard.

I have tasted it, and there is a distinct antiseptic taste, if you know what I mean...

The more I read up on honey (and manuka honey inparticular) the more I'm edging towards taking between 2 & 5 tsps per day...
I agree about the slightly medicinal taste and I have used manuka honey honey in the past to help heal an ulcerated area on my foot and still keep a jar in my fridge for external medical use as it does have great healing properties.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-395130/The-treatment-thats-bees-knees.html
 
Honey is an intelligent food, an informed food, a miraculous natural substance!
Sounds like quackery.
Research studies using humans have shown that honey consumption will result in lower blood sugar levels by as much 60 to 100 mg/dl at 60 and 90 minutes following ingestion of a comparable amount of sucrose.
That's meaningless without context, which suggests that the study is not that supportive of the author's position as he'd have given details otherwise - how much sugar, exactly? Who were the subjects? Etc

However, it's not particularly implausible.
Therefore it is not surprising that the HbA1c levels will be lower by as much as 2 to 4%
No, this doesn't follow. You've established that honey is better for BG than sugar, but the obvious 3rd option - not having any sugar or honey, is ignored. It doesn't follow that *adding* honey to your diet will lower BG
diabetics should avoid “low-fat” yogurt as it contains HFCS
Nonsense. For low-fat dairy, the primary tricks are adding more water and replacing fat with specially processed protein.
We do know that honey is directly converted to liver glycogen and does not raise blood sugar levels as does sucrose or HFCS even though it contains the same simple sugars.
The first part is doubtful, the second part is untrue. Honey contains (free) fructose and glucose whereas table sugar is sucrose. I wouldn't expect the glucose in honey to be metabolised any differently than glucose from any other source.
Dr. David Baer, from the USDA Human Nutrition Research Center stated at the First International Symposium on Honey and Human Health in January 2008, “Experimental evidence suggests that consumption of honey compared to other sweeteners may improve blood sugar control and insulin sensitivity.” Honey is indeed the sweetener of choice for diabetics.
writen by by Dr. Ron Fessenden, MD, MPH.
That may well be true, but rather different from what the rest of the article recommends.
 
Wild honey is the way to go, we order it online, not cheap but it hasnt been adulterated from the cleaning up process honey usually goes through. Loads of blurb on the website about it being good for diabetics and reducing blood sugar. Too early to find the website and post.
 
I've always used a teaspoon of wild honey in recipes when I need a sweet alternative - haven't tested it yet with my meter as only just ordered one. I don't fancy eating honey daily but it has always been a store cupboard essential instead of sugar in my house before I got diagnosed and I see no reason to change that.

And who hasn't enjoyed a honeyed hot toddy when flu ridden? With whisky and lemon juice of course?
 
I get tired of saying this sometimes but the only way to tell if you can eat honey is to try it and test, test, test using different amounts, it may be that one person can happily eat a tablespoonful while another cant.

Oddly honey is one of the few foods that I have never tested as I have only ever eaten it occasionally in the past finding it too messy and sticky to eat regularly and have not eaten any since being diabetic, well not that I recall, but if it can help to lower bg levels then I might give it a try.

But saying everyone should eat 5 tablespoons full a day or you shouldnt eat it at all just sounds foolish to me as unless you test it how can you know?
 
Hey all!

If you currently use lots of sugar in your diet e.g. 3 - 5 Tbs a day :shock:, replacing the sugar with honey might result in a lower HbA1c over a period of time (although I doubt it because each tsp honey has about 5.5g carb and each tsp granulated sugar has 4g carb). If, on the other hand, you currently eat 0 Tbs sugar (0g carb) a day in your diet and you start taking 3 - 5 Tbs honey (51 - 85g carb), I would put money on your BG heading upwards at an alarming rate!

No scientific evidence here - just a hunch!

Smidge
 
Thanks guys for all the replies, so the jury is still out. I think I will wait to see Sid Bonkers results, then may give it a try.

Coopes
 
Honey and me is a :thumbdown: To high in carbs even a small amount, and I think it would be to sweet for me to stomach now. So long without anything sweet, it could be sickly - for me!
 
Coopes, it doesn't matter what results Sid gets, it's the results you get that will determine if you can eat honey or not. For example, I have found in the past that I can eat vast quantities of fresh pineapple without a blip in my levels but strawberries are a different matter.

I won't be testing because I can't stand the stuff, far too sweet for me.

wiflib
 
I get my honey from local hobby beekeepers.

I eat very little of it, because it's a sugary carbohydrate, but I have found that a teaspoon added to a Lemsip has no effect on my BGs whatsoever - which surprised me, not only for the honey!

I also sometimes sweeten a serving of natural yoghurt mixed with a dessertspoon of soaked flax seeds (if I need added fibre :oops: ) with half a teaspoon of honey - no effect on BGs.

Very occasionally I will have a thin scraping of honey on half a slice of wholemeal seeded bread, if I feel that way out :crazy: . Again, very minimal effect of BGs.

But I have to emphasise that this is very, very occasionally - not even once a month between them. I certainly wouldn't eat 5 tablespoons a day :shock:

Viv 8)
 
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