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What exactly constitutes "low carb?"

Hi Sid - I was getting the 20g fro the qote of Neicy0412 - So you don't eat bread or potatoes? Even the green beans and tomatoes I had today are listed as 20g carb each,

nless of corse Neicy0412 was referring to tinned / dried / process stff?

y Table gives ch the sae as yors - I need a new keyboard - 'ewe' doesn't work (thats a novel way of spelling it, and the 'e+2n's oined together' doesn't work. Now the ' ' doesn't work.

abcdefghi kl nopqrst vwxyz 123456 890 - Please note, all the letters issing don't work :lol:
 
halfpint said:
y Table gives ch the sae as yors - I need a new keyboard - 'ewe' doesn't work (thats a novel way of spelling it, and the 'e+2n's oined together' doesn't work. Now the ' ' doesn't work.

abcdefghi kl nopqrst vwxyz 123456 890 - Please note, all the letters issing don't work :lol:
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Might just be sticky keys, have you tried turning it over and banging/tapping it on the underside, grit, dust and crumbs get everywhere. Or buy one of those air in a can blowers and give it a good whoosh of compressed air :thumbup:
 
Neicy0412 said:
Fascinating, how do you "fill up" for instance today I had a muffin for breakfast, 30g then a snack lunch of a peach and two plums, 35g then my main meal was a grilled salmon steak, new potatoes, green beans and cherry tomatoes, 89g I don't feel as if I have eaten a huge amount, I'm not hungry but neither am I full to bursting, I can't get my head around how I could feel satisfied on any less than I've eaten today. Would love more info.
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Filling up was what worried me too because my problem is that I don't feel hungry at all until around 11am no matter what time I wake up, but then once I've eaten something, I feel hungry again after about 15 minutes, so I'm back looking for something to fill up with. Then I'm hungry again and have lunch and I seemed to get hungrier the MORE I ate which sounds ridiculous.

But when I was diagnosed with T2 I did some research and remembered that Chromium is good for insulin regulation and that many diabetics are short of it, so I started using a supplement at the same time as starting Metformin 1000mg SR. I also discovered something called L-Tyrosine which is said to help with carb cravings, mood, depression etc, which are all associated with carb eating for comfort.

I thought I'd give the supplements a try and lo and behold - hand on heart - I am not craving carbs - I still want them, I still like them, I still enjoy them, but I'm not CRAVING them and so am eating far less of them than I have been. In between meals I'm not hungry like I was before and I have to say, this is a first for me because I've had that issue since I was a child and I'm nearly 60 now! So the L-Tyrosine and Chromium are definitely staying as far as I'm concerned. :)
 
Think we should remember the OP who posed the question is a T1 who obviously uses insulin. Hopefully the OP has picked it up, but some posts here are from non-insulin using T2s (some of course have pointed that out) and even non-diabetics, so their diets are probably not relevant to the OP's question. Not that they are un-interesting, but could be misleading to the OP if they weren't aware.
 
I treat Green Beans as around 7g per 100g.

Unless you specifically want to do a largely Ketogenic diet then as Sid suggests just eating to your meter is a great way to do things. How you work out the carbs by counting them or via portion control is not particularly relevant in my opinion.

There isn't a level of carbs that suddenly switches you in or out of a Ketogenic regime rather the amount you are in Ketosis begins to increase as you drop below the threshold where your body needs to extract energy requirements from breaking down fat rather than purely from glucose. That level is different from person to person but its thought that most people will begin to have an increasing amount of their energy requirements met from ketosis as they drop below around 130g / day. As there is still some debate as to if a ketogenic diet is low risk very long term then the ADA sets its recommendation for an RDA for carbs at 130g specifically because that is the level where the vast majority of people will not be in ketosis.

On my 60g / day regime then I never show any urinary ketone reading but am undoubtedly in a semi ketogenic state. As Grazer states insulin using and non insulin using diabetics do low carb regimes for different reasons. As a non insulin using T2 I do low carb as it keeps by BG levels safe.
 
To stay in ketosis 0,5 mmol you probably have to have 100 grams of carbs as a ceiling. Have you checked you blodketones in the morning.
Reading tips; Volek & Phinney - The art and science of low carbohydrate living.
 
modesty007 said:
To stay in ketosis 0,5 mmol you probably have to have 100 grams of carbs as a ceiling. Have you checked you blodketones in the morning.
Reading tips; Volek & Phinney - The art and science of low carbohydrate living.
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Modesty I really don't care if I'm in Ketosis or not and I have yet to read one book by any of the well known authors as I personally don't think it is necessary to do such a thing. What I do care is that my BG's are running at the levels of a non diabetic, that my blood pressure is normal, that my BMI is normal and that my cholesterol levels aren't horribly high. They do that fine at 60g /day and I am happy.

Today I had a full roast dinner with potatoes and gravy. Started at 4.4 and after 2 hours was 4.6 to me that's the important thing not whether some ketostix goes purple. My dinner today was with all my children who had come to visit and was lovely and probably knocked the hell out of my semi ketogenic state. To counter the adverse effects the potatoes might have had on my BG's I ate some sugar free jelly with loads of double cream for pudding which tends to lower the GI of the overall mix in my opinion. At no stage did I consider ketosis as I was having a fun time.

There are many ways diabetics control their condition and for most being full on ketogenic is likely to be just one perfectly acceptable option but it is just an option none the less. Insulin using diabetics and diabetics taking insulin stimulating medication need to also exercise great care if they swap to a carbohydrate reduced regime as it will undoubtedly effect the amount of insulin they will need to maintain good control and for those T2's on insulin stimulating drugs the lack of carbohydrates may well require them to reduce their medication preferably under their doctors supervision or risk a hypo.
 
modesty007 said:
To stay in ketosis 0,5 mmol you probably have to have 100 grams of carbs as a ceiling. Have you checked you blodketones in the morning.
Reading tips; Volek & Phinney - The art and science of low carbohydrate living.
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You don't stand a chance of hitting 0.5mmol/l on 100g of carb a day.

You probably need to be eating <30g a day, and restricting your protein too (which means either burning or eating alot of fat).

Eating coconut oil or MCT will boost your ketone production.
 
modesty007 said:
To stay in ketosis 0,5 mmol you probably have to have 100 grams of carbs as a ceiling. Have you checked you blodketones in the morning.
Reading tips; Volek & Phinney - The art and science of low carbohydrate living.
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Most of us on here restrict our carbs to control our blood sugar levels; some moderately, some quite extreme. I was wondering why you low carb if you're not diabetic? Is it some other medical issue, or is it a weight thing?
 
On a recent carb counting course I was treated like a naughty school girl because I wasn't eating alot of carbs. Salads, fish, chicken etc with the odd slice of bread, both nurses gave me a rollicking for this. 'youre a diabetic, you are supposed to eat carbs'. The other diabetics in the group, all T1, who were eating foods that I wound never consider (fast foods, all you can eat buffets etc) were applauded because they were eating exactly what they liked but carb counting so that meant it was ok. I've been diabetic for 34 years and I found this information damaging.
 
Brownie said:
On a recent carb counting course I was treated like a naughty school girl because I wasn't eating alot of carbs. Salads, fish, chicken etc with the odd slice of bread, both nurses gave me a rollicking for this. 'youre a diabetic, you are supposed to eat carbs'. The other diabetics in the group, all T1, who were eating foods that I wound never consider (fast foods, all you can eat buffets etc) were applauded because they were eating exactly what they liked but carb counting so that meant it was ok. I've been diabetic for 34 years and I found this information damaging.
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Mine were fine even though I was eating around 100g of carbs at the time :?
 
judeuk2011 said:
Is there any books to help tell me the amount of carbs in food, as i cant work out what carbs are for what ty :)
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Collins-Gem-Cou ... 2_edpp_url
 
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