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"What have you eaten" Parallel Chat

My SIL in Ayrshire got home from hospital on Monday. That was 61/2 months in hospital for a minor fall because, getting taken to hospital, her care package was taken away. She only needed to be there for a check-up and could have got home in a couple of days but before discharge the hospital wanted to check that her care package was suitable. That kept her out of the house for long enough for the existing care package to be withdrawn. It has taken the last 6 months to get another one in place. Because she has been in bed (lack of equipment at the hospital meant nurses couldn't get any of the long term patients there out of bed very often) for all that time, she can no longer stand at all. At almost 90, it's not easy to maintain muscles without exercise.

However, she's happy to be back in her own house, so everyone is relieved.

Breakfast was a 3-egg omelette and a slice of cheese (because I was still hungry) and a cup of coffee.

2nd meal will be some of the beef mince. Not quite carnivore because I had to put onion in it, but close. BG was still too high this morning and even higher after a cup of coffee. I read somewhere that tea does contain carbs, but coffee doesn't. That might be wrong. Or maybe it's wrong about instant coffee.

When I can get some shopping, I will have to concentrate on animal products since most of the things in the freezer have veg in them as well as the meat/fish/fowl.
 
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BG went down eventually so about 12.30 I had breakfast of the remaining beef mince with fried egg on top.
Cups of coffee and water during the day didn't destabilise it and just had some cheese and ham roll-ups. Still in the 6's. So ultra low carb does seem to work. I'll try that for a few days and then see about a few vegetables again and see if that destabilises it again.

I did take insulin before either of the meals and was watching in case BG dropped too low, but it didn't. At least the insulin level wasn't as high as it has been recently. There is more to it than just carbs though because the all protein food today shouldn't have needed the amount of insulin that I took.
 
I'm beginning to feel lonely. I'm the only one posting here since Thursday. Everyone has a life to lead, I guess, unlike me.

Breakfast today was the last of the beef mince with fried egg on top.

Coffee and water to drink. A few slices of cheese about 2.30.

2nd meal will be fried duck breast.

Talking to my SIL on the phone and more annoyed with the Ayrshire hospital she was kept in (unnecessarily) when she told me that they simply didn't cater for coeliac disease patients. There seemed to be no awareness of gluten free or the pain that could be caused when gluten is included in the coeliac diet. She had to take her chance that food which looked gluten free would be (often a mistake) or just go without - for 15 months! No wonder she's glad to be home and at least in control of her diet.

EDIT: weeks not months. She wouldn't have survived 15 months in that place.
 
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Hello!

I started a rambly post but it disappeared and I'm too exhausted to type it again, even if I could remember most of it.

I'm certainly not off having an exciting life, being mostly housebound, but recent events of the dull and annoying kind have filled my days and used up my energy I might otherwise spend posting here!

Mostly just eating to survive at the moment, hopefully that'll improve next week.

Yesterday I had

Fried eggs

Smoked mackerel with cucumber, cocktail sausages and coleslaw

Dinner was abandoned due to hubby knocking a lead-acid battery on to his toe, so instead I had some coconut water and marinated octopus

Today I have no idea as hubby is taking it easy and daughter is out. Probably a takeaway, most likely to be kebab.
 
debs248 said:
Hello!

I started a rambly post but it disappeared and I'm too exhausted to type it again, even if I could remember most of it.

I'm certainly not off having an exciting life, being mostly housebound, but recent events of the dull and annoying kind have filled my days and used up my energy I might otherwise spend posting here!

Mostly just eating to survive at the moment, hopefully that'll improve next week.

Yesterday I had

Fried eggs

Smoked mackerel with cucumber, cocktail sausages and coleslaw

Dinner was abandoned due to hubby knocking a lead-acid battery on to his toe, so instead I had some coconut water and marinated octopus

Today I have no idea as hubby is taking it easy and daughter is out. Probably a takeaway, most likely to be kebab.
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Sorry to hear about the accident with the battery and hope your husband's toe heals rapidly - it must be painful for him. And I hope your rash improves soon so that you both can feel a lot better. Enjoy that takeaway.
 
Friday was spent driving, but did have a 2 hour stop at a relatives en route.
Lunch was at seaside cafe. Had tasty chicken skewers with greek salad.
Dinner was cooked by friend and host. Chicken chorizo and pepper casserole.
Friend's on a health kick which is good as last year when we visited was constant stream of biscuits, crisps etc. This year its nuts on the table. Still too tempting.

Saturday
B: yoghurt,seeds and a peach
L: leftover Chicken casserole
D: salmon and green beans, then too much cheese, melon, bit of banana cake. Several glasses wine.

Sunday
B: yoghurt, seeds, peach
A bit of a walk, far less than we'd usually do as friend isn't very fit
A scoop ice cream.
A nut bar, a cup of tea.
A chunk cheese
Should have had proper lunch instead of picking.

D: 3 lamb chops, leeks, carrots. Watered down wine (by choice). A bit of cheese
 
Breakfast: liver and bacon. There's still some liver and 3 slices of bacon left but I'm not sure I can face it again tomorrow.
2nd meal will be sausages - high meat content but still some carb in them. We'll see what effect that has on BG. So far it has settled in the 5's.
Arthritis flare up is making me quite unable to do anything at the moment. Getting around is quite an issue so most of the time is spent in the big chair, feeling sorry for myself.
 
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3 egg omelette for breakfast. I was going to put cheese in it, but my hand was too sore to use the grater, so it was just a plain omelette.

2nd meal should be salmon but it is in the fridge in the back porch and Neil is working on a project there and blocking access, so it might be sardines instead.

Still avoiding veg and fruit to keep the carbs ultra low for a few days more until I get an idea of how much insulin I need to take with just proteins. I think eggs need nothing at all, although meat products do seem to need a little. Don't really understand it, but am just doing what seems to work.
 
BG coming back into pretty tight control now so today's plan was to have one, small, lc cracker with some eggs. However, something (maybe keto flu) has raised its ugly head. Stomach v sore and diarrhea - not sure that those are symptoms of keto flu. Anyway, changed plan to eating nothing but keeping up the fluids - water and black coffee. BG decided to fall into the 3's so I had to put a spoon of sugar into my coffee. That brought it back to a healthier 5.0.

So many aches and pains today and it feels a bit like real flu, although no coughing or sneezing, or wheezing, so I don't think it is. Today is just going to be for resting.

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I rested for most of the day, but around 6 pm I thought I could cope with some scrambled egg - everything seemed to have settled, so I felt quite safe. BG had been dropping into the 3's all day so thought I'd better eat something.

I just got the egg out onto the plate when, suddenly and forcefully, the diarrhea came back. Never known it to be so bad! I had to leave the eggs and try to clean up myself, kitchen and bathroom. Took me 3/4 of an hour and I just don't trust myself to be able to eat anything. Took a second dose of Lopiramide and that might have sorted it for now. No idea what this is all about. Had to cut the bandages off of my legs so I'll need to get them rebandaged, but not sure I will be able to go out tomorrow to get it done. If not, my legs will have to go unsupported for a week, until my next appointment. More sitting around with my legs up. Bed now to see if I can sleep.
 
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So sorry to hear of your woes @Annb . Hope you start to feel better soon.

I've missed afew days posts definitely in relaxed holiday mode. Staying with a friend in her holiday home so it's nice revisiting some familiar favourites and discovering new ones..

Mostly sticking to low carb, but with a daily small ice cream. ONe day there was a cheese scone that came with cream cheese and crispy bacon...6 rashers of it.!
Another day there was a splendid seafood platter shared between 3 of us.
Tonight was a tasty lamb curry eaten in delightful garden on a campsite miles from anywhere. Such a surprise.

Hope everyone else is well. Where are you all?
 
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BG coming back into pretty tight control now so today's plan was to have one, small, lc cracker with some eggs. However, something (maybe keto flu) has raised its ugly head. Stomach v sore and diarrhea - not sure that those are symptoms of keto flu. Anyway, changed plan to eating nothing but keeping up the fluids - water and black coffee. BG decided to fall into the 3's so I had to put a spoon of sugar into my coffee. That brought it back to a healthier 5.0.

So many aches and pains today and it feels a bit like real flu, although no coughing or sneezing, or wheezing, so I don't think it is. Today is just going to be for resting.

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I rested for most of the day, but around 6 pm I thought I could cope with some scrambled egg - everything seemed to have settled, so I felt quite safe. BG had been dropping into the 3's all day so thought I'd better eat something.

I just got the egg out onto the plate when, suddenly and forcefully, the diarrhea came back. Never known it to be so bad! I had to leave the eggs and try to clean up myself, kitchen and bathroom. Took me 3/4 of an hour and I just don't trust myself to be able to eat anything. Took a second dose of Lopiramide and that might have sorted it for now. No idea what this is all about. Had to cut the bandages off of my legs so I'll need to get them rebandaged, but not sure I will be able to go out tomorrow to get it done. If not, my legs will have to go unsupported for a week, until my next appointment. More sitting around with my legs up. Bed now to see if I can sleep.
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The worst appears to be over. I managed a soft boiled egg and 2 very low carb crackers about 8 pm. Stomach a bit sore as a result but nothing more serious.
 
I'm not sure what to do. At 3.20 am I had to get up - I thought the diarrhea was starting up again, but it was a false alarm, but I was awake by then, so I stayed up. BG has remained at 5.0-5.2 for the last 21/2 hours despite having coffee with milk. It went to that after eating 2 low carb crackers with a boiled egg about 8 pm and soon dropped to 4.5 but stayed there until I got up. It's now 3 days since I took any insulin at all. I know I haven't eaten much but usually, if I go without food, my BG rises (helpful liver?) so the reason for this isn't clear to me.

The question I am asking myself is: "should I take my basal insulin in view of the already lowish numbers". I am feeling well enough to eat a little today - depending on my response to food, of course. I would normally be taking it about 5 am, so, if I am going to take it, I should get on and do so. But should I? Or will that drop BG too low again?

There's no-one here I can ask for advice - we can only get a receptionist on the phone and they don't know anything really. Actually, today, we can't even do that, everything is shut for the weekend. It's not really a question for the 111 service, or the A&E.

3 options:
1 take the Tresiba at the normal dose
2 take half the dose of Tresiba and see what happens
3 don't take anything and see what happens, taking it later if levels start to rise, along with the bolus insulin

As Dusty Springfield had it: "I just don't know what to do with myself.." but I must make a decision soon.
 
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I'm not sure what to do. At 3.20 am I had to get up - I thought the diarrhea was starting up again, but it was a false alarm, but I was awake by then, so I stayed up. BG has remained at 5.0-5.2 for the last 21/2 hours despite having coffee with milk. It went to that after eating 2 low carb crackers with a boiled egg about 8 pm and soon dropped to 4.5 but stayed there until I got up. It's now 3 days since I took any insulin at all. I know I haven't eaten much but usually, if I go without food, my BG rises (helpful liver?) so the reason for this isn't clear to me.

The question I am asking myself is: "should I take my basal insulin in view of the already lowish numbers". I am feeling well enough to eat a little today - depending on my response to food, of course. I would normally be taking it about 5 am, so, if I am going to take it, I should get on and do so. But should I? Or will that drop BG too low again?

There's no-one here I can ask for advice - we can only get a receptionist on the phone and they don't know anything really. Actually, today, we can't even do that, everything is shut for the weekend. It's not really a question for the 111 service, or the A&E.

3 options:
1 take the Tresiba at the normal dose
2 take half the dose of Tresiba and see what happens
3 don't take anything and see what happens, taking it later if levels start to rise, along with the bolus insulin

As Dusty Springfield had it: "I just don't know what to do with myself.." but I must make a decision soon.
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if you use tresiba, then nothing will change regardless of the result you choose for another 24 hours, because this insulin acts for 48 hours and is designed to give people the opportunity to inject at any time of the day. You won't see the full picture of the changes until three days later.

I don't think I have the right to give advice, but it seems to me that it's easier to reduce sugar with a bolus.

Has it warmed up at your 58th latitude? I went to rest even further north than you are at latitude 60 and the day is at 61 latitude, it was 13C here for a long time, but yesterday it got warmer to 21C
 
I was told by the diabetes nurse that the Tresiba was active for a little over 24 hours. If it is, as you say, up to 3 days, that makes a difference. We are now just over the 72 hours though and BG is still lowish - just dropped back into the 4's after being at 5.0.

4th option, I realise, is to have another cup of coffee with milk, and see if it rises again. That's what I'm doing - just finished that 2nd cup. If it goes up I'll need to keep a very close eye on the post-breakfast result. May then have to bolus. Breakfast will only be boiled eggs, which shouldn't put it up too much, plus maybe a couple of my low carb crackers (4.4 g each).

Temperature at the moment is 18C - a bit warmer than yesterday. Yesterday was overcast for most of the day and the sun only came out in the evening. Temperature is forecast to rise to 25C by 3pm. Bright, sunny, very slight breeze from SW. This is unusual for us. Alistair (my postman son) won't be happy. He hates the heat and the sun, especially driving around in his post van.

EDIT: 2 hours past breakfast and BG is 6.2. Watching now to see if it drops back or carries on rising. Then I can decide whether or not to take bolus. Wary about stopping basal without medical support though, but we'll see how it goes. The nurse did want me to start trying to cut it down, the first and last time I saw her - around about February sometime (I had been transferred from the hospital care to the GP practice). I don't think she thought I should stop it though.
 
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Basal adjustments are usually done by some 10 % increments, and not more often than every 3 or 4 days.
@Annb , it looks like your BG is pretty much perfect, if a tad lower than you'd like. So even if an adjustment is needed, it doesn't make sense to me to think about a huge reduction for only a slightly low number.
 
Yesterday was a coastal walk with swims at 2 different beaches and a dip in the pool at the end. A breeze kept us at 24° ut have been feeling tired all day today. Think we did too much in the heat.
Saw so many people with children and dogs in the midday heat.
Ate tuna salad for lunch and cheese and egg salad in the evening.

Today was a stronger breeze so felt cooler but we most stayed under trees or inside. One stroll and a quick swim.
Cheese for lunch and beef for dinner, and wine. We walked to a music event 40 minutes away. Still hot at 8pm.
 
Antje77 said:
Basal adjustments are usually done by some 10 % increments, and not more often than every 3 or 4 days.
@Annb , it looks like your BG is pretty much perfect, if a tad lower than you'd like. So even if an adjustment is needed, it doesn't make sense to me to think about a huge reduction for only a slightly low number.
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Ah, but the lower number was only after the basal dose was removed from the equation. Anyhow, I took 40u of Tresiba this morning (that's actually 9u less than I have been taking). I had bacon, eggs (2) and tomato with 2 lentil crackers for breakfast. I reckon about 15g carbs in all and took 6u Humalog to cover that. Seems to have worked as BG has been in the 5's all day so far. Not sure if I'll have a 2nd meal - it's very warm and I'm drinking lots of water with chunks of cucumber in it. There's stuff I really must cook but I don't really feel up to it yet - innards still feeling annoyed at something, and legs clicking and clunking as I move around is a bit disconcerting as well. We'll see ....
 
Walked an hour to a beach. Was nice cool breeze and sunny. Had planned to swim but so many jellyfish decided just to paddle instead.

Shared a very carby lunch with hubby (note to remember NOT to send him to cafe unaccompanied ever again). One chicken and leek pasty, one saffron bun, one rock cake. I had 2 or 3 bites of each.
Luckily had had an egg and cheese breakfast so didn't need much.

Walked 30 minutes back to favourite beach. Fewer jellyfish but still decided just to stay ankle deep.

40 minutes uphill home spurred in by the thought of the pool, and it didn't disappoint. No jellyfish! :D

Dinner was bacon and a sausage, bit of cheese and 2 sqs 85% chocolate.
All that exercise and air made me hungry .
 
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Walked an hour to a beach. Was nice cool breeze and sunny. Had planned to swim but so many jellyfish decided just to paddle instead.

Shared a very carby lunch with hubby (note to remember NOT to send him to cafe unaccompanied ever again). One chicken and leek pasty, one saffron bun, one rock cake. I had 2 or 3 bites of each.
Luckily had had an egg and cheese breakfast so didn't need much.

Walked 30 minutes back to favourite beach. Fewer jellyfish but still decided just to stay ankle deep.

40 minutes uphill home spurred in by the thought of the pool, and it didn't disappoint. No jellyfish! :D

Dinner was bacon and a sausage, bit of cheese and 2 sqs 85% chocolate.
All that exercise and air made me hungry .
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What a great day you had! Paddle sounds like a lot of fun. Yesterday I tried to persuade my boyfriend to go surfing, but he didn't want to. I guess I'll have to offer it to my friend, who also likes outdoor activities while this lazy person playing computer games.

I check my boyfriend's bg and it was 6.8 on an empty stomach! The scariest thing is that he is indifferent to this, because for me, 6.8 is good, but what is good for an insulin-dependent diabetic is not the same as what is good for a healthy person. I don't know how to convince him to give up at least sweets.
 
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