OMG you don't want to know what i ate. Lets just say it was a bad day, i feel sick and let's leave it at that huh?
Ok if i have to spill the beans...
Breakfast - egg muffin, 1 oatcake and tsp cottage cheese
Lunch - potato salad with 2 slices chicken, boiled egg and salad
Snack - 3 mini bread sticks and 1 laughing cow triangle
Dinner - nut roast with butternut squash
Snack - 3 oatcakes, 30g cheese and...get this...flipping chocolate...the 85% cocoa stuff....50g.
Yes i feel sick and yes i deserve to
Loobles love, that isn't a bad day.
It's a glitch, a learning experience, a discrepancy.
A bad day is 4 slices of toast, with jam, burger, chips and milkshake, bangers, mash, onion gravy and icecream.
Cut yourself some slack. Hug.
I think that's why i feel so sick...i don't normally snack these days and especially not on carbs. I have a long long history of binge eating and starving and unfortunately i haven't yet figured out how to control it. I'm currently having CBT to help with the eating thing. Balance has never been something i find easy...its that all or nothing perfectionist thinking, you know? I either eat really really well (like over eat) or i starve really really well (ie don't eat). Getting help gor this hasn't been easy as i'm not underweight. The only help i've been getting is via my employer who has paid for the CBT and dietician. Without that, i wouldn't feel quite as positive about my future.Can I have that minus the shake please? I wouldn't want to go overboard.
That isn't too bad a bad day. Try having fewer snacks would be my top tip as they seem to be where you are getting a bit carb heavy. And I know they say little and often when you are on diet, but I think the fewer times we make our pancreas work overtime the better. If you are snacking and eating and eating meals all day it is more difficult to judge the effects on BS. My Grandad's dn told him yo eat a pudding with his meal rather than have it as a separate snack later on. Tomorrow's another day.
Erm....it's not so easy to explain but it kind of goes beyond just simple snacking. Think of it like a compulsion...I suppose the nearest thing I can liken it to is OCD, where somebody just has to do it. If I can't I get really anxious and it will dominate my thoughts for days (if I don't give in). I have literally spent 3 days before trying not to eat a slice of bread! That gremlin on my shoulder tells me I need it you know? It's mentally exhausting trying to fight it some days. The CBT woman I see is an eating disorder specialist and I feel she's my only chance at me ever learning how to control this. I just want to be normal. You know? I haven't always got the mental energy to fight this all the time@Loobles I agree with Ethyl. Do you think you are snacking because you always have done and it's habit? Try having a drink of tea or water instead if you are genuinely hungry. When do you get time to test your meals (I assume you do). Some of those snacks must interfere with your 2 hour readings or your next meal pre-readings?? Easy for me to say as I've never been a snacker and never eaten between meals.
Erm....it's not so easy to explain but it kind of goes beyond just simple snacking. Think of it like a compulsion...I suppose the nearest thing I can liken it to is OCD, where somebody just has to do it. If I can't I get really anxious and it will dominate my thoughts for days (if I don't give in). I have literally spent 3 days before trying not to eat a slice of bread! That gremlin on my shoulder tells me I need it you know? It's mentally exhausting trying to fight it some days. The CBT woman I see is an eating disorder specialist and I feel she's my only chance at me ever learning how to control this. I just want to be normal. You know? I haven't always got the mental energy to fight this all the time
I'm getting a c-peptide test in a few weeks (I've got high GAD antibodies), along with fasting insulin, fasting BG & HBa1c. Seems I'm getting these every 3 months at the moment; they are under Medicare so don't cost anything but I'm in Oz. Do you have to pay for your bloods in UK? We have to pay about 1/2 of a GP consult (around $35) but the majority of bloods are free.Tried one of modesty007's bullet coffee this morning, 40g coc oil and 45g butter, they are really tasty, superb for my BG but I did get a sick tummy too much fat feeling for an hour after, will try again tomorrow
Lunch pepparami and salad
Dinner pork chop with peas and broccoli
Nut balls are back on the menu, missed these little fellas when on holiday
Anyone had a c-peptide test and did you have to pay/how much ?
Considering asking with my hba1c as I'm curious what pancreas is doing, any thoughts ?
I've done and seen a lot worse than that so don't be too hard on yourself... maybe I should post what I had on Saturday and it would make yours look outstanding!OMG you don't want to know what i ate. Lets just say it was a bad day, i feel sick and let's leave it at that huh?
Ok if i have to spill the beans...
Breakfast - egg muffin, 1 oatcake and tsp cottage cheese
Lunch - potato salad with 2 slices chicken, boiled egg and salad
Snack - 3 mini bread sticks and 1 laughing cow triangle
Dinner - nut roast with butternut squash
Snack - 3 oatcakes, 30g cheese and...get this...flipping chocolate...the 85% cocoa stuff....50g.
Yes i feel sick and yes i deserve to
Oh I've done worse myself!I've done and seen a lot worse than that so don't be too hard on yourself... maybe I should post what I had on Saturday and it would make yours look outstanding!
The RH thing does seem to fit with the extreme hunger, shakiness, feeling cold, nauseous and sweating etc that I used to get early morning, but that stopped once I switched to LCHF. Now I only get it if I eat something really carb-y...like yesterday - gosh I felt rough in the early hours of this morning. My food cravings have reduced drastically since I started LCHF and that's a big reason why I'm a fan of it, but because it runs deeper than a physiological issue, the cravings are still there...thankfully only 1-3 times a week as opposed to all day. The issue is, even if I don't have carbs in the house (which I do need a certain amount for hubby and for myself, since I'm LC, not no carb) I would actually go out of the house to get them if I had to...and if I couldn't my thoughts would be dominated by getting some. I've literally spent 2 weeks being totured by thoughts of not eating fish and chips one. It was doing my head in - once I ate them, the thought disappeared. That's what I'm up against, when I get these thoughts, they don't just die off like normal food cravings.Goodness, that sounds like I was with reactive hypoglycaemia. Did I see you mention RH earlier today, or was that my imagination?
I was convinced I had eating disorders. Compulsive binge eating, followed by fasting, in a cycle.
Eventually discovered it was carb cravings. The eating disorders disappeared completely with LC and enough fat. Think the fat was the real decider.
Incidentally, the fasting periods were because when your body hits it's fasting BG level, you stop having the trauma of constantly swinging BG. It's like a mini holiday.
Sorry if I'm way off base. Don't mean to preach. It's just that I'm startled how many ppl with RH arrive here, often with a misdiagnosis - because it doesn't exist to many doctors.
I'm getting a c-peptide test in a few weeks (I've got high GAD antibodies), along with fasting insulin, fasting BG & HBa1c. Seems I'm getting these every 3 months at the moment; they are under Medicare so don't cost anything but I'm in Oz. Do you have to pay for your bloods in UK? We have to pay about 1/2 of a GP consult (around $35) but the majority of bloods are free.
Don't suppose that's of any help to you (!) but am curious how the UK system works, very different to ours.
Ooooh that's a really important point you've made there and I hadn't thought about that before. Yes, I'd say my thoughts have changed in that respect. In the past I would have inhaled (eaten is probably the wrong word!) a fish of whale proportions and followed it with a sack of spuds. So long as I don't let the craving go too long, I can usually (these days) be satisfied with a smaller amount. Thinking of recent binges, the food was the same, but the proportions much lower because I tend to feel full so much more quickly now. So, yes, I can see now that actually although the feelings don't really seem any different, the impact on my behaviour has changed. Thanks for pointing that out x@Loobles - These days, when you have the insistent cravings for (just using your example) for fish and chips, do you need to eat a few mouthfuls, a portion, a big portion, or as much as you can get your hands on? Have the amounts and/or frequency changed?
Please treat those questions as rhetorical, because they are very intrusive.
My guess, from reading your posts over the weeks, would be that things are improved. That being the case, don't knock it. Rome wasn't built in a day. You are changing years and years and years of behaviour. Changes relating to food are supposedly some of the harder ones, because we need to eat food, just not all of the subsets.
Keep moving forward because I see traction in your movements. Looking back on the harder days sometimes help us understand the progress we have made, or are making.
Ooooh that's a really important point you've made there and I hadn't thought about that before. Yes, I'd say my thoughts have changed in that respect. In the past I would have inhaled (eaten is probably the wrong word!) a fish of whale proportions and followed it with a sack of spuds. So long as I don't let the craving go too long, I can usually (these days) be satisfied with a smaller amount. Thinking of recent binges, the food was the same, but the proportions much lower because I tend to feel full so much more quickly now. So, yes, I can see now that actually although the feelings don't really seem any different, the impact on my behaviour has changed. Thanks for pointing that out x
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