What have you eaten today?

[Brunneria]

Crustless quiche with a cup of tea

A wee smidge of 70% choc n orange (morrisons, yum)

Brie, Atkins coffee shake (Desk drawer emergency supply)

Peanut 9bar

Tescos finest burger With cheese Green beans, caulicheese, homemade baked onion sprinkles
Berries and double cream

 

[Bluetit1802]

Greek yogurt and mixed berries

Tinned red salmon, cheese, cherry toms, 1 slice bread and butter, mayo

Small chippy haddock and mushy peas, lots of vinegar, slice of bread and butter. No chips. Glass of red. (maximum rise of 1.9mmol/l and worth it )

 

[Loobles]

OMG you don't want to know what i ate. Lets just say it was a bad day, i feel sick and let's leave it at that huh?

Ok if i have to spill the beans...

Breakfast - egg muffin, 1 oatcake and tsp cottage cheese

Lunch - potato salad with 2 slices chicken, boiled egg and salad

Snack - 3 mini bread sticks and 1 laughing cow triangle

Dinner - nut roast with butternut squash

Snack - 3 oatcakes, 30g cheese and...get this...flipping chocolate...the 85% cocoa stuff....50g.

Yes i feel sick and yes i deserve to

 

[Brunneria]

OMG you don't want to know what i ate. Lets just say it was a bad day, i feel sick and let's leave it at that huh?

Ok if i have to spill the beans...

Breakfast - egg muffin, 1 oatcake and tsp cottage cheese

Lunch - potato salad with 2 slices chicken, boiled egg and salad

Snack - 3 mini bread sticks and 1 laughing cow triangle

Dinner - nut roast with butternut squash

Snack - 3 oatcakes, 30g cheese and...get this...flipping chocolate...the 85% cocoa stuff....50g.

Yes i feel sick and yes i deserve to

Loobles love, that isn't a bad day.
It's a glitch, a learning experience, a discrepancy.

A bad day is 4 slices of toast, with jam, burger, chips and milkshake, bangers, mash, onion gravy and icecream.

Cut yourself some slack. Hug.

 

[cold ethyl]

Loobles love, that isn't a bad day.
It's a glitch, a learning experience, a discrepancy.

A bad day is 4 slices of toast, with jam, burger, chips and milkshake, bangers, mash, onion gravy and icecream.

Cut yourself some slack. Hug.

Can I have that minus the shake please? I wouldn't want to go overboard.


That isn't too bad a bad day. Try having fewer snacks would be my top tip as they seem to be where you are getting a bit carb heavy. And I know they say little and often when you are on diet, but I think the fewer times we make our pancreas work overtime the better. If you are snacking and eating and eating meals all day it is more difficult to judge the effects on BS. My Grandad's dn told him yo eat a pudding with his meal rather than have it as a separate snack later on. Tomorrow's another day.

 

[Bluetit1802]

@Loobles I agree with Ethyl. Do you think you are snacking because you always have done and it's habit? Try having a drink of tea or water instead if you are genuinely hungry. When do you get time to test your meals (I assume you do). Some of those snacks must interfere with your 2 hour readings or your next meal pre-readings?? Easy for me to say as I've never been a snacker and never eaten between meals.

 

[Loobles]

Can I have that minus the shake please? I wouldn't want to go overboard.


That isn't too bad a bad day. Try having fewer snacks would be my top tip as they seem to be where you are getting a bit carb heavy. And I know they say little and often when you are on diet, but I think the fewer times we make our pancreas work overtime the better. If you are snacking and eating and eating meals all day it is more difficult to judge the effects on BS. My Grandad's dn told him yo eat a pudding with his meal rather than have it as a separate snack later on. Tomorrow's another day.

I think that's why i feel so sick...i don't normally snack these days and especially not on carbs. I have a long long history of binge eating and starving and unfortunately i haven't yet figured out how to control it. I'm currently having CBT to help with the eating thing. Balance has never been something i find easy...its that all or nothing perfectionist thinking, you know? I either eat really really well (like over eat) or i starve really really well (ie don't eat). Getting help gor this hasn't been easy as i'm not underweight. The only help i've been getting is via my employer who has paid for the CBT and dietician. Without that, i wouldn't feel quite as positive about my future.

 

[cold ethyl]

Good luck with the CBT. I'm currently doing it for long term anxiety issues and it does help, albeit slowly.
Perhaps don't buy carby things like the breadsticks and oatcakes then when the urge to snack comes on upon would have to pick something lower carved? I find slices of cooked ham, turkey etc a better snack as I don't then want to eat more and more , which I do once a bit of bread or something passes my lips. Nuts are good too though high calories so best in moderation. I can do that as I get fed up of the bits in my teeth quite quickly! What about mixing some smoked mackerel with cottage cheese and lemon juice and keeping in fridge to dip into with celery and cucumber sticks? Of if chickpeas don't spike you, some home made hummus with few carrot and/or other crunchy veg
If you know you will have binge days, I think being prepared with low carb alternatives is the way to go as at East that way you arriving feeding the cravings that eating carbs brings.
Good luck.

 

[Loobles]

@Loobles I agree with Ethyl. Do you think you are snacking because you always have done and it's habit? Try having a drink of tea or water instead if you are genuinely hungry. When do you get time to test your meals (I assume you do). Some of those snacks must interfere with your 2 hour readings or your next meal pre-readings?? Easy for me to say as I've never been a snacker and never eaten between meals.

Erm....it's not so easy to explain but it kind of goes beyond just simple snacking. Think of it like a compulsion...I suppose the nearest thing I can liken it to is OCD, where somebody just has to do it. If I can't I get really anxious and it will dominate my thoughts for days (if I don't give in). I have literally spent 3 days before trying not to eat a slice of bread! That gremlin on my shoulder tells me I need it you know? It's mentally exhausting trying to fight it some days. The CBT woman I see is an eating disorder specialist and I feel she's my only chance at me ever learning how to control this. I just want to be normal. You know? I haven't always got the mental energy to fight this all the time

 

[Brunneria]

Erm....it's not so easy to explain but it kind of goes beyond just simple snacking. Think of it like a compulsion...I suppose the nearest thing I can liken it to is OCD, where somebody just has to do it. If I can't I get really anxious and it will dominate my thoughts for days (if I don't give in). I have literally spent 3 days before trying not to eat a slice of bread! That gremlin on my shoulder tells me I need it you know? It's mentally exhausting trying to fight it some days. The CBT woman I see is an eating disorder specialist and I feel she's my only chance at me ever learning how to control this. I just want to be normal. You know? I haven't always got the mental energy to fight this all the time

Goodness, that sounds like I was with reactive hypoglycaemia. Did I see you mention RH earlier today, or was that my imagination?

I was convinced I had eating disorders. Compulsive binge eating, followed by fasting, in a cycle.
Eventually discovered it was carb cravings. The eating disorders disappeared completely with LC and enough fat. Think the fat was the real decider.

Incidentally, the fasting periods were because when your body hits it's fasting BG level, you stop having the trauma of constantly swinging BG. It's like a mini holiday.

Sorry if I'm way off base. Don't mean to preach. It's just that I'm startled how many ppl with RH arrive here, often with a misdiagnosis - because it doesn't exist to many doctors.

 

[Bluetit1802]

Oh, now you have likened it to OCD I am now understanding where you are coming from! I have this in various forms and it drives me absolutely nuts (and my hubby), but thankfully I don't have it in relation to eating. Good luck with the CBT and as Ethyl says, maybe stop buying these carb snacks and have a load of more suitable snacks ready in the fridge. I wish I had some better and more positive suggestions. x

 

[cold ethyl]

I suffered from OCD after my son was born so I understand the analogy all,too well. I recovered quite well from that by using CBT techniques as has my son who suffers from intrusive thoughts which sound very much like your inner gremlin telling you to eat. I don't know enough about cbt for eating disorders but I guess that a lot of the work will centre round lad thing to sit with the anxiety that comes from not doing the eating - not easy but I know from my hand washing days that the more I didn't do it, the easier it got not to do it. I do wish you well with it all as I know how exhausting anxiety can be whatever its form.

 

[Lesleywo]

Tried one of modesty007's bullet coffee this morning, 40g coc oil and 45g butter, they are really tasty, superb for my BG but I did get a sick tummy too much fat feeling for an hour after, will try again tomorrow

Lunch pepparami and salad

Dinner pork chop with peas and broccoli
Nut balls are back on the menu, missed these little fellas when on holiday

Anyone had a c-peptide test and did you have to pay/how much ?
Considering asking with my hba1c as I'm curious what pancreas is doing, any thoughts ?

I'm getting a c-peptide test in a few weeks (I've got high GAD antibodies), along with fasting insulin, fasting BG & HBa1c. Seems I'm getting these every 3 months at the moment; they are under Medicare so don't cost anything but I'm in Oz. Do you have to pay for your bloods in UK? We have to pay about 1/2 of a GP consult (around $35) but the majority of bloods are free.

Don't suppose that's of any help to you (!) but am curious how the UK system works, very different to ours.

 

[Lesleywo]

OMG you don't want to know what i ate. Lets just say it was a bad day, i feel sick and let's leave it at that huh?

Ok if i have to spill the beans...

Breakfast - egg muffin, 1 oatcake and tsp cottage cheese

Lunch - potato salad with 2 slices chicken, boiled egg and salad

Snack - 3 mini bread sticks and 1 laughing cow triangle

Dinner - nut roast with butternut squash

Snack - 3 oatcakes, 30g cheese and...get this...flipping chocolate...the 85% cocoa stuff....50g.

Yes i feel sick and yes i deserve to

I've done and seen a lot worse than that so don't be too hard on yourself... maybe I should post what I had on Saturday and it would make yours look outstanding!

 

[Loobles]

I've done and seen a lot worse than that so don't be too hard on yourself... maybe I should post what I had on Saturday and it would make yours look outstanding!

Oh I've done worse myself!

Goodness, that sounds like I was with reactive hypoglycaemia. Did I see you mention RH earlier today, or was that my imagination?

I was convinced I had eating disorders. Compulsive binge eating, followed by fasting, in a cycle.
Eventually discovered it was carb cravings. The eating disorders disappeared completely with LC and enough fat. Think the fat was the real decider.

Incidentally, the fasting periods were because when your body hits it's fasting BG level, you stop having the trauma of constantly swinging BG. It's like a mini holiday.

Sorry if I'm way off base. Don't mean to preach. It's just that I'm startled how many ppl with RH arrive here, often with a misdiagnosis - because it doesn't exist to many doctors.

The RH thing does seem to fit with the extreme hunger, shakiness, feeling cold, nauseous and sweating etc that I used to get early morning, but that stopped once I switched to LCHF. Now I only get it if I eat something really carb-y...like yesterday - gosh I felt rough in the early hours of this morning. My food cravings have reduced drastically since I started LCHF and that's a big reason why I'm a fan of it, but because it runs deeper than a physiological issue, the cravings are still there...thankfully only 1-3 times a week as opposed to all day. The issue is, even if I don't have carbs in the house (which I do need a certain amount for hubby and for myself, since I'm LC, not no carb) I would actually go out of the house to get them if I had to...and if I couldn't my thoughts would be dominated by getting some. I've literally spent 2 weeks being totured by thoughts of not eating fish and chips one. It was doing my head in - once I ate them, the thought disappeared. That's what I'm up against, when I get these thoughts, they don't just die off like normal food cravings.

Sorry guys, I wasn't intending to dominate this thread.

Off to see the dietician today, so will see what he suggests...will it be the food pyramid or the NHS "kill yourself slowly" plate?

 

[Weird Science]

I'm getting a c-peptide test in a few weeks (I've got high GAD antibodies), along with fasting insulin, fasting BG & HBa1c. Seems I'm getting these every 3 months at the moment; they are under Medicare so don't cost anything but I'm in Oz. Do you have to pay for your bloods in UK? We have to pay about 1/2 of a GP consult (around $35) but the majority of bloods are free.

Don't suppose that's of any help to you (!) but am curious how the UK system works, very different to ours.

Lesley no we do not pay for bloods, I personally do not pay for anything, I say that but we do ultimately as we pay taxes to the govt for our NHS, which in turn gives us free healthcare, got to persuade a doctor this morning so will let you know

 

[AndBreathe]

@Loobles - These days, when you have the insistent cravings for (just using your example) for fish and chips, do you need to eat a few mouthfuls, a portion, a big portion, or as much as you can get your hands on? Have the amounts and/or frequency changed?

Please treat those questions as rhetorical, because they are very intrusive.

My guess, from reading your posts over the weeks, would be that things are improved. That being the case, don't knock it. Rome wasn't built in a day. You are changing years and years and years of behaviour. Changes relating to food are supposedly some of the harder ones, because we need to eat food, just not all of the subsets.

Keep moving forward because I see traction in your movements. Looking back on the harder days sometimes help us understand the progress we have made, or are making.

 

[Loobles]

@Loobles - These days, when you have the insistent cravings for (just using your example) for fish and chips, do you need to eat a few mouthfuls, a portion, a big portion, or as much as you can get your hands on? Have the amounts and/or frequency changed?

Please treat those questions as rhetorical, because they are very intrusive.

My guess, from reading your posts over the weeks, would be that things are improved. That being the case, don't knock it. Rome wasn't built in a day. You are changing years and years and years of behaviour. Changes relating to food are supposedly some of the harder ones, because we need to eat food, just not all of the subsets.

Keep moving forward because I see traction in your movements. Looking back on the harder days sometimes help us understand the progress we have made, or are making.

Ooooh that's a really important point you've made there and I hadn't thought about that before. Yes, I'd say my thoughts have changed in that respect. In the past I would have inhaled (eaten is probably the wrong word!) a fish of whale proportions and followed it with a sack of spuds. So long as I don't let the craving go too long, I can usually (these days) be satisfied with a smaller amount. Thinking of recent binges, the food was the same, but the proportions much lower because I tend to feel full so much more quickly now. So, yes, I can see now that actually although the feelings don't really seem any different, the impact on my behaviour has changed. Thanks for pointing that out x

 

[AndBreathe]

Ooooh that's a really important point you've made there and I hadn't thought about that before. Yes, I'd say my thoughts have changed in that respect. In the past I would have inhaled (eaten is probably the wrong word!) a fish of whale proportions and followed it with a sack of spuds. So long as I don't let the craving go too long, I can usually (these days) be satisfied with a smaller amount. Thinking of recent binges, the food was the same, but the proportions much lower because I tend to feel full so much more quickly now. So, yes, I can see now that actually although the feelings don't really seem any different, the impact on my behaviour has changed. Thanks for pointing that out x

Just call me Dr Breathe.





My reassuringly expensive invoice will be in the post.

 

[AndBreathe]

Wasabi peanuts,..................... Odd. Very odd.