What have you eaten today?

[Avocado Sevenfold]

In better news, got 2 huge jars of virgin coconut oil delivered from Amazon

 

[Debmcgee]

I test at 1hr. 2hrs. and if it isn't on its way down significantly, again at 2.5hrs. My peaks are about equally a mixture of all 3 of these times, and it depends on what type of food it was. Fast acting carbs peak a lot earlier. Lots of fat with the meal slows it down. I try not to be hard on myself if I peak at 1 hour and it is higher than I like because non-diabetics will spike at 1 hour and this is normal. Its the 2+ hours that are more important for us when testing meals - but @sanguine is right that all the readings will count for HbA1c averages.

Sanguine, I would accept the rise for the toast as acceptable because the rise was fairly reasonable, it was just the starting point that was a tad high, and this is my problem!

I think I'm gonna look at an hour for carby stuff like muesli and see what it does tomorrow. This is all v interesting - thanks!


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[cold ethyl]

Odd day of carberific snacking. In no particular order

Cheesy omelette
Cheese on toast (livlife)
Salted cashews
85% choc
Creamy decaf
Diet decaf coke


[Pussycat update: his X-ray today was not good news. His treatment plan is gentle so that he can enjoy being a cat and not a patient.]

sorry it was bad news. At least he can enjoy being a cat for as long as possible.

 

[Debmcgee]

Sorry about your cat. Poor thing xx


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[Bluetit1802]

Today I've had
Greek yogurt and fresh raspberries
Black coffee in cafe
Mushroom soup with a slice of granary bread and butter
Griddled fresh haddock, mushrooms griddled in butter, small amount of garden peas, 2 jersey royal spuds.
Several mugs of tea. Loads of water.

 

[Brunneria]

Odd day of carberific snacking. In no particular order

Cheesy omelette
Cheese on toast (livlife)
Salted cashews
85% choc
Creamy decaf
Diet decaf coke


[Pussycat update: his X-ray today was not good news. His treatment plan is gentle so that he can enjoy being a cat and not a patient.]

Cats like pate.
Did you know?

In his later years, the high point of Toed's little life was a daily brussels pate treat, about the size of a large grape.

And he never noticed the tablet embedded in it.

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[Brunneria]

On waking: 6 cashews
Brekkie: ham. Emergency. Found it buried under the leeks in the fridge! Out of date tomorrow!
11am: 3 squares 70% choc
Lunch: rest of ham and veg soup
Supper: cheese burgers (no bun) and huge salad
Last thing: 6 cashews

 

[SamJB]

Yogurt, raspberries and roast hazelnuts for brekkie. Salad for lunch and a mixed kebab minus the bread for dinner...plus a couple of glasses of white wine..it's been a busy day!

 

[Debmcgee]

Help please!

Ok so had usual muesli for breakfast and tested hourly. Here's the result:

+1 hour 9.8
+2 hour 6.8

So is this a good breakfast choice for me?

I've looked to find hourly measures but can only find the post two hour ones

Thanks

X


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[Bluetit1802]

9.8 is high (depends where you started though). 6.8 is excellent at +2. I would be inclined to reduce your portion a bit and try again. What did you have with your muesli? Was there any milk involved? In coffee?

 

[Spiker]

Help please!

Ok so had usual muesli for breakfast and tested hourly. Here's the result:

+1 hour 9.8
+2 hour 6.8

So is this a good breakfast choice for me?

I've looked to find hourly measures but can only find the post two hour ones

Thanks

X


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Not the worst thing in the world I suppose but it could be better.

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[Indy51]

9.8 is much higher than I would want at 1 hour. I prefer to stay below below 7.8 as much as possible. It's explained here: http://www.phlaunt.com/diabetes/14045621.php

 

[Debmcgee]

9.8 is high (depends where you started though). 6.8 is excellent at +2. I would be inclined to reduce your portion a bit and try again. What did you have with your muesli? Was there any milk involved? In coffee?

I had oats, pumpkin seeds, linseed a, hazelnuts, oat bran to a total of 60g with semi skimmed milk and a coffee. The only pre measure I have is FBG which was 5.9.

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[Bluetit1802]

Caffeine can raise BS in some people, and milk is usually quite bad for most people. Full fat milk is generally better than skimmed or semi skimmed but not by much. Many people on here put cream in theirs. I personally restrict milk to a dash of semi skimmed in my mugs of tea. I hate anything more creamy than that in tea. I rarely drink coffee, but when I do I take it black.

 

[cold ethyl]

You can buy Lactofree fresh milk which has lower carbs and seems to not spike me as much as standard milk. Carbs vary depending on tyoe , with lowest being the full fat version. 60g is quite a big portion both from BS and weight points of view. I know hubby got a shock when reading the recommended cereal sizes on packets as it's only about 30g. I'd be more inclined to switch to a cooked breakfast if time allows, or have some Greek yoghurt with all those nuts and seeds in but minus the oats.

 

[Debmcgee]

I've been following holford and he said 60g of high fibre cereal or oats is ok for glycemic load.

I'll have eggs about twice a week but don't want to have it daily really. Most of my carbs in the day come from breakfast and my total carb count is 60-80g. And fruit and yoghurt I save for evening snack.

I'm used to having a big brekkie - dread to think what my BG was prior to diagnosis!!

I'm going to check everything at post hour now. It's v interesting all this. Thank you xx


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[Bluetit1802]

I've been following holford and he said 60g of high fibre cereal or oats is ok for glycemic load.




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Obviously Holford's theory doesn't work for you as regards the cereal/oats, or you got the portions wrong. If it was a good GL it wouldn't have peaked so high. It would be more like a hump back bridge than a mountain peak.
No harm in having yogurt twice a day!

 

[cold ethyl]

I was thinking that, but couldn't quite put it into words. While GI is a useful index, it doesn't tell the whole carb story I don;t think. I'd be halving my portion or at least reducing the oat elements dramatically. Make a seedy/nutty topping and keep it in an airtight tin and then have it with yoghurt and a few fresh berries instead- surely just as easy and far less likely to send your BS up.

 

[Spiker]

I've been following holford and he said 60g of high fibre cereal or oats is ok for glycemic load.

Patrick Holford isn't writing for diabetics. The data on glycemic load is every bit as inconsistent as the data on glycemic index.

Actually I'm not convinced by Holford or ION. ION nutritionists are bound to follow a party line or lose their certification. Holford is the one who determines that party line. And he's not exactly rocking the boat. I think with ION he's just cloning himself, and creating an army of nutrition supplement salespeople. :-(

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[Debmcgee]

Patrick Holford isn't writing for diabetics. The data on glycemic load is every bit as inconsistent as the data on glycemic index.

Actually I'm not convinced by Holford or ION. ION nutritionists are bound to follow a party line or lose their certification. Holford is the one who determines that party line. And he's not exactly rocking the boat. I think with ION he's just cloning himself, and creating an army of nutrition supplement salespeople. :-(

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You're probably right but I think GL is a good place to start for an ex carb addict like me!

So just tested an hour after lunch and I can see what you guys mean.

Before 5.1
Hour after 6.8

I had meatballs, half slice garlic bread and chicken Caesar salad (at restaurant).

So comparing breakfast to lunch - lunch clearly suited me better.

I'm now wondering if muesli for breakfast is what's causing my FBG to be higher.

And to think if I'd listened to docs laid back attitude I'd prob be dead by now!!


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