What is a portion of wholewheat pasta that won't harm ?

[justconfused]

Hi,

I have been reading about many on this forum who can include wholewheat pasta, however I am being very cautious and have no carbs at all. I would like to have a taste though ... how much could I eat in a portion to keep within safe range ?

I have started having a thin sliver of cheddar, like 1 mm and 1 inch in width with my hot unsugared cocoa drink after dinner, is it OK ?

Thanks

 

[Stuboy]

Carbs: 0.4g per ounce in chedder cheese...

Chedder Cheese

 

[phoenix]

unfortunately the effects of any type of carb will vary from person to person and even from day to day. (for example if you've just exercised or are about to exercise). The best thing is to test before and one and a half to two hours after eating.

A small portion of 50gms uncooked pasta would have about 35gms carbs.
To take advantage of the lower GI it must be cooked al dente. The longer it's cooked the higher the GI

 

[Cameraman]

I have pasta about once a week with no increase in BS levels, unfortunatley I don't weigh or measure the amount. A lot depends on the size of the pasta itself, if I'm in on my own, wife at work I just throw in a "slack handfull" till it looks like its about right for me. If in doubt I use a little less cos it always swells up a little. Once its cooked I may not serve it all :roll: Just have what looks about right

Sorry I can't be more precise than that, but thats how I cook and eat.

 

[IanD]

I think you are in danger of being under-nourished. Your general health will suffer from a poor diet, & you will fell rough not because of diabetes. Complications aren't instant.

Have 10 x as much cheese.

You should be able to eat say 10 gm of uncooked pasta or a medium slice of bread with a meal. When I started reduced carb, I simply had small portions (desert spoon) of potatoes/rice/pasta. That approach reduced my BS & cleared the muscle pains I was getting.

Have you a BS tester? What are your levels?

 

[fergus]

Hi justconfused,

I'm afraid you're the only one who will be able to answer that question.

For some (most?) people, pasta will produce a large rise in blood sugar. I'm one of those people. To produce an equivalent rise when eating meat or fish or vegetables or nuts or cheese I would need to eat a great deal more. Now, I love to eat, so I'd much prefer to eat a large amount of something nutritious than a small amount of something like pasta.

All the best,

fergus

 

[phoenix]

out of interest I've just weighed out 10gms of pasta.
10gm (7.4 gm carb) of wholemeal farfalle (the little butterflies) was 8 pieces
10gm of normal short spaghetti was 12 strands

 

[Cameraman]

out of interest I've just weighed out 10gms of pasta.
10gm (7.4 gm carb) of wholemeal farfalle (the little butterflies) was 8 pieces
10gm of normal short spaghetti was 12 strands

Hmm, you see weighing stuff never works for me, I eat because I need food to provide the fuel for my fire and feel comfortably full, not stuffed. 10gm may be Ok if your 5' nothing and skinny as rake (no offence to people who are) but if your 6' working outdoors, active and reasonably heathly, surely that can't be enough to live on?

Most of my life I've been very active, spent in The Parachute Regiment. Run to camp in the morning, active all day, run home after duties. Three good big meals a day sometimes four and snacks too, not to mention a healthy comsumtion of beer, wines and port. My problem was cutting it all back once I left :roll: Same appitite, less than a tenth of exercise. Now I'm running again and have smaller portions and virtually no processed food at all, I can see where I went wrong. The temptation to snack is still strong though but I fight it with endless cups of strong black tea.

 

[phoenix]

you see weighing stuff never works for me,

I have to calculate insulin so aam very concious of weight/carb counts and unless eating out weigh all my carbs. I thoroughly agree that 10gms is a tiny portion. I just posted it to give people a rough idea of quantity and amount of carbs.
Earlier, Ian had suggested 10gms, and put as an equivalent a slice of bread but unless it was a slice of low carb bread, a normal slice would have twice as many carbs as 10gms of pasta (slice of mixed grain about 15 gms carb)

 

[Cameraman]

Of course, I never thought about you Insulin dependant people, I was thinking of just myself, again :roll: I suppose I'm so lucky that I can just chuck in a slack handfull and not worry unduly My appologies.

 

[Stuboy]

i usually find 1 hand full is enough... never looks like enough when it's in the pot dry though. Somehow it magics into more once cooked and satisfies the appetite nicely... add a little sauce and it's perfect!

Again, type 1, so i just adjust the insulin to match, im pretty good at eyeballing pasta and insulin needs now.

 

[saz1]

This is very interesting discussion! I know aboout thr green days, got me hooked on potatoes, rice and pasta and massive heaps of it too! I have been reducing my carbs now for a week or so and have found that a little cheese, ham, oil and butter has taken my cravings away. In addition I have ordered some dreamfields pasta and so I don't have to be so careful.

I think I'm sensitive to carbs since I had a Sunday roast with 2 small roasties, tbsp of mash and about a gallon of gravy and my sugars were still wayover 10 Monday am. So for the moment I am staying of super carby stuff until I get my medication and sugar levels on an even keel. :cry:

 

[hanadr]

Hi justconfused
I can't eat any pasta other than dreamdields without pushing up the BG

 

[Stuboy]

how does dreamfields pasta compare to regular pasta in taste? I had heard that the low carb pasta is nasty?

Where do you get it from?

 

[BillB]

I've been eating Dreamfields pasta for about 6 months now and haven't noticed any difference in taste between it and regular supermarket pasta. In fact, my wife says she prefers the taste to ordinary pasta. Also after a normal (large) helping of their pasta my BG stays pretty normal. And let me hasten to add that I have no connection to Dreamfields other than as a satisfied customer.
My son (Type 2) and I just ordered another batch of different kinds, eg, fusili, spaghetti, lasagne, etc., online at the weekend.

 

[Trinkwasser]

This is a how long is a piece of string question.

My pancreas produces no Phase 1 insulin so I have to be especially careful of fast carbs. However it can produce a low level of Phase 2 over a long time so I was surprised to find I can get away with pizza - in sufficiently small quantities.

Much the same with pasta, I can do Dreamfields seemingly with only a slight rise over a prolonged period, and ordinary pasta in small portions ONLY in the evening and ONLY with a sufficient quantity of sauce containing fats and proteins.

Do too much too fast and I spike so I don't push the envelope too often.

The only way to tell for sure what you can do is to test afterwards. And be prepared for a brisk march round the block if you blew it!

I aim for around 30g carbs in the evening but can do 50 on occasion.