Ka-Mon, This is not in any one's interest; this is just the sort of thing that puts people off from posting, which is why I sent you a pm further addressing the way you spoke to Candy 1567 and which I explained to you in the pm. Now, I have no idea what you are talking/ranting about now. What 'usual insults' do you mean? What 'unfounded accusations' are you talking about? I don't think we have ever spoken before? Have a look at my original comment; I quoted your post to Candy 1567 where you said; "If you don't feel like you have been offended and you don't like such thread as as this then why not just stay out of it?" I did that as an example of what I felt was unnecessarily aggressive responses to people like Candy and me and many others who question the orthodoxy of low fat high carb approaches. You even went so far as to agree with Candy that your post was insulting... I note that your posting to Candy 1567 has now been removed from the thread, which is probably for the best. Now you are claiming what? I don't know, I am truly perplexed by your posts and by your pm's to me; they don't make any sense, but so be it. Like I said; this is doing no one any favours. I think these sorts of exchanges should be kept to pm's but if you insist on bringing them into the open then fine; but let's move on shall we?