Michael Phillip
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- Type of diabetes
- Type 2
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- Insulin
Oats and rice are both starchy, which means carby, which means... They convert to glucose once ingested. Sorry. You're better off frying some eggs and bacon. (Or with salmon, or cheese, tomatoes, high meat content sausages... Anything that you feel is filling enough.). The butter's fine, as are the blueberries (in moderation).My blood sugar spikes alarmingly after my traditional breakfast of plain porridge oats & blueberries as well as rice cakes ( without butter). Which do we think is causing the rise? i have always understood oats was good for you but now I am confused. Thanks for any insight.
Try halving the amount of oats and add the same amount of ground almonds.the rise is not as high.My blood sugar spikes alarmingly after my traditional breakfast of plain porridge oats & blueberries as well as rice cakes ( without butter). Which do we think is causing the rise? i have always understood oats was good for you but now I am confused. Thanks for any insight.
What is causing the rise? the oats, blueberries and rice cake. All have carbs (blueberries aren't too bad occasionally, for me) and the oats and rice cake are heavy hitters. Butter wouldn't affect your BG at all, it being fat and not carb.My blood sugar spikes alarmingly after my traditional breakfast of plain porridge oats & blueberries as well as rice cakes ( without butter). Which do we think is causing the rise? i have always understood oats was good for you but now I am confused. Thanks for any insight.
I’m assuming this is a cut and paste.Eating whole grains like oats may benefit adults with type 2 diabetes due to their potential glucose and cholesterol-lowering effects. The soluble fiber in oats may help hit blood sugar goals and keep weight in check.3 Eating oats for 4-8 weeks can possibly improve fasting blood sugars and insulin levels in people living with type 2 diabetes.2 A meta-analysis that analyzed 16 studies on type 2 diabetes patients concluded that including oats in your diet helped reduce A1C, fasting blood glucose, and total and ("bad") LDL cholesterol levels in people with type 2 diabetes.
I’m assuming this is a cut and paste.
First oats do not actively lower glucose. That is a misleading statement. No food actually lowers levels. They might be neutral, raise it a little or a lot. Some foods will raise it a lot less than others. But it depends what you are comparing it to.
As seen in the post above bacon and eggs will raise it less, cornflakes or many other cereals will likely raise it more.
Second the fibre slows digestion so the carbs hit you slower (hopefully allowing insulin to keep up). But you still have to digest them all meaning that it takes longer to return to pre meal baselines and keeps both blood glucose and insulin raised for longer (than the equivalent carbs without the fibre). A long slow lower rise as opposed to a shorter higher spike. Neither are good for you. Fat does a similar thing with regards to slowing digestion of carbs eaten but without the extra carbs that come with many fibre sources.
So pretty much all the claims here in relation to blood glucose depend very much indeed what you are comparing it to - a more carby option (so an improvement as claimed) or simply fewer carbs (which would be even better)
Your meter, testing before the meal and until the levels return to premeal, will give you answers what these foods do to your body. Check more than once as different days might have other factors also effecting levels.
Thankyou for that. Yes it was, as I stated from Diabetes.Org. Maybe because I do up to 60 mins Tabbing or Nordic Walking after breakfast and weights in the afternoon. Rain or shine. From 112mg yesterday with 32g Carbs Oats and Oat milk, I measured 125mg 2.5 hours later. My constitution is fine. The body also needs that little fibre. The Micronutrients are very important too. The magnesium needed to train. I think its OK for me. As I said I'm transplanted so I have to watch protein too. I have to take Allopurinol. Which is better that way for the extra protein, than Metformin or Insulin to drop carbs. I started my diabetes life with 400mg. I was 130 mg 4 weeks later. On holiday recently I was getting morning readings of 104 (Med air, sea, sand, grounding, and no stress?). That was a complete life turnaround and ex mil training willpower allowing me to hit the ground running. I also spent 11.5 years on Dialysis which was another dietary turn around, having to watch potassium and Phosphorous. Mind you a nice Steak and Egg breakfast is also nice once in a while. Savory food every morning does not suit me, but I actually had some of my homemade protein rolls and hard boiled eggs today.I’m assuming this is a cut and paste.
First oats do not actively lower glucose. That is a misleading statement. No food actually lowers levels. They might be neutral, raise it a little or a lot. Some foods will raise it a lot less than others. But it depends what you are comparing it to.
As seen in the post above bacon and eggs will raise it less, cornflakes or many other cereals will likely raise it more.
Second the fibre slows digestion so the carbs hit you slower (hopefully allowing insulin to keep up). But you still have to digest them all meaning that it takes longer to return to pre meal baselines and keeps both blood glucose and insulin raised for longer (than the equivalent carbs without the fibre). A long slow lower rise as opposed to a shorter higher spike. Neither are good for you. Fat does a similar thing with regards to slowing digestion of carbs eaten but without the extra carbs that come with many fibre sources.
So pretty much all the claims here in relation to blood glucose depend very much indeed what you are comparing it to - a more carby option (so an improvement as claimed) or simply fewer carbs (which would be even better)
Your meter, testing before the meal and until the levels return to premeal, will give you answers what these foods do to your body. Check more than once as different days might have other factors also effecting levels.
Not everyone can do that sort of exercise, which undoubtedly helps control levels, for a multitude of reasons and we all have individual tolerances of carbs and insulin resistance too. Some do great on 150g of carbs others need less than 50g. Fibre can come from less carby sources if you feel the benefits from it. Veg, nuts seeds etc. With less carbs though many find they also need less fibre to “help them along”.Thankyou for that. Yes it was, as I stated from Diabetes.Org. Maybe because I do up to 60 mins Tabbing or Nordic Walking after breakfast and weights in the afternoon. Rain or shine. From 112mg yesterday with 32g Carbs Oats and Oat milk, I measured 125mg 2.5 hours later. My constitution is fine. The body also needs that little fibre. The Micronutrients are very important too. The magnesium needed to train. I think its OK for me. As I said I'm transplanted so I have to watch protein too. I have to take Allopurinol. Which is better that way for the extra protein, than Metformin or Insulin to drop carbs. I started my diabetes life with 400mg. I was 130 mg 4 weeks later. On holiday recently I was getting morning readings of 104 (Med air, sea, sand, grounding, and no stress?). That was a complete life turnaround and ex mil training willpower allowing me to hit the ground running. I also spent 11.5 years on Dialysis which was another dietary turn around, having to watch potassium and Phosphorous. Mind you a nice Steak and Egg breakfast is also nice once in a while. Savory food every morning does not suit me, but I actually had some of my homemade protein rolls and hard boiled eggs today.
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