What was your fasting blood glucose? (full on chat)

HarryBeau

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Very wise. I heard on the news yesterday about her, she has her elderly mother staying with her too doesn’t she?
She does & one of her colleagues who dined with her is pictured on twitter this morning coughing his lungs up yesterday at the dispatch box...he is now in self isolation...for goodness sake they should from the front she was already in self isolation he must have been aware of that why would he even be in the commons...irresponsible
 
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She does & one of her colleagues who dined with her is pictured on twitter this morning coughing his lungs up yesterday at the dispatch box...he is now in self isolation...for goodness sake they should from the front she was already in self isolation he must have been aware of that why would he even be in the commons...irresponsible

I agree - there seems to be 2 extremes of reaction: the blasé ‘it won’t happen to me because I’m above all that’ and the panic stricken loo roll buying ‘we’re all doomed’ mentality. Common sense seems to have gone the way of the loo rolls.
 

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Along with the anti-vaxxers ;)

There is a sober truth we do need to accept though. A virus cannot be beaten, sooner or later we will get it, hopefully, it's a ways off. This virus, just like its predecessors will become part of our contagion cycle and we do have to build herd immunity to it. Sadly, that means Darwin wins out and the strong survive until we come up with a vaccine that can artificially create that herd immunity within us. Smallpox, polio and the like, were not 'beaten', we just developed a vaccine to increase the speed at which humanity would gain herd immunity.

I know it's a hard pill to swallow but we do need to stop the pretence that cleanliness will stop the virus when all it actually does is delay it from our immediate zone. Again, it doesn't mean that you should not practise hygiene, all I'm saying is that we also need to understand how a virus differs from a bacteria.

Have a read...

https://www2.mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk/viruswars/viruses.php

Fully agree, that is the reason why we need to slow the surge as much as possible,
too many getting ill at one time will strain our resources to the limit, if not beyond.

I haven't seen or read anything that suggests that Wuhan won't be the only city to suffer such consequences,
the hope is that other who have learnt the lesson, Singapore* for instance, are doing much better, then the European trend at the moment...lessons indeed to be learnt.

*Arguable that the SARS epidemic gave many countries a head start on Europe hence the better control in some places

we will most likely all have a very good chance of getting it before the time a vaccine is readily available.
the actions now are reasonably simple.

Contain..tried.
Delay..The whole responsible self isolation, hand washing etc,
Lock down..(pending )

then we might just be in the stage Boris suggested earlier.

It become a bush fire we can't beat, so we get no choice but to let it run through society, so we do build that immunity up..for most.

keep saying it, but we protect our neighbours best, when we protect ourselves.
Lets all be THAT neighbour
 
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She does & one of her colleagues who dined with her is pictured on twitter this morning coughing his lungs up yesterday at the dispatch box...he is now in self isolation...for goodness sake they should from the front she was already in self isolation he must have been aware of that why would he even be in the commons...irresponsible

Sad to say we may need that body count to be much higher before many will go "OH :wideyed:"
 
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Sad to say we may need that body count to be much higher before many will go "OH :wideyed:"
This is a government minister in the commons no doubt for the budget at the bloody dispatch box...why didn't one of his colleagues or someone say 'you need to go home & self isolate'...he knew by this point Nadine Dorries was self isolating so he should have stayed away..it's bloody irresponsible of him...no one wants to catch this virus most will be unaware they've been in contact with a covid -19 carrier but he was aware...I hope someone calls him to account.
 

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Common sense seems to have gone the way of the loo rolls.
Perhaps because he's not in the 'vulnerable' higher risk group he was unconcerned...I somehow get the feeling many in that group are considered expendable real Darwinism at the root of the current policy from this government.
 

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Surprising 4.5 for me. Coo!
@HarryBeau so glad to see Lola is on the mend.
I’m going to pop into the docs surgery this morning and ask if they will make a list of volunteers ( including me) who can take shopping round to elderly or sick people who can’t get out. It seems better to be doing something positive

What a wonderful idea! Hugs to you for thinking of it.
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The cutting down cream experiment is going well. Not dropping fasting BS very much but doing interesting things during the day. For instance, this morning fbs 5.6.

2 hrs after having my breakfast of ground flaxseeds, crushed hemp seeds, inulin, kefir, flaked almonds, Greek Yoghurt, frozen raspberries followed by 20g of 100% montezumas my BS was 5.2. It was a huge breakfast as I was really hungry.

Really shouldn't have had the 100% with my coffee but it was lovely and as I am really struggling to stop my weight going into freefall without the cream it probably wasn't as indulgent as it sounds.
 

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7.2 on another dark morning. I don't like Daylight Saving Time, it's going on 8:00 and still very dark outside. :( Another day of rain, apparently; another day of not going out. I don't want to sleep my life away ...

Stay well, everyone.
 
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Interesting chart showing recoveries as well as deaths worldwide.

https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

--Johns Hopkins University COVID-19 Resource Center
a nice map @SaskiaKC ..had seen but other may not.

do think this one is more 'clean' to my eyes.

and look at switzerland go...
their NOT going to be outdone by the Germans..

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

do you get the area by area inside each state information yet. something like this i mean ?
https://www.gov.uk/government/publi...ronavirus-covid-19-number-of-cases-in-england

and i can't help but have my eye drawn to the fact most of europe is suffering , yet as bad as it is here, we look so much better,
is it the self isolation of the channel, maybe.

does cast doubts on the travel bans make no difference, they just MIGHT here..
IF we dared.mmhh
 
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Sod it I'm not going to that there London tomorrow made an executive decision posting my paper work instead.
 

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What about some packing for your impending move?

I have packed all I can for now, things I don't use every day. Books, pictures, other household things I don't need are all boxed up. I need to go out and get about 3 more boxes for things I will need up until the last day or so, e.g., food and dishes.
 

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Was feeling a bit wobbly as though having a hypo so tested and was 3.7. A bit low but not really a hypo. Pork loin, purple sprouting broccoli and mushrooms should sort out before I have to drive to work.