What was your fasting blood glucose? (with some chat)

DJC3 · Jul 31, 2018

We got free tea and coffee, no biscuits and had to bring a packed lunch, which suited me fine until they announced mid morning that the only toilet in the building had broken. We all regretted the tea and by 4 pm you’ve never seen a room clear so quickly - all of us trying to walk cross legged!
The ridiculous thing was they said it happens every time they run the course there - why on earth not find somewhere else?

OrsonKartt · Jul 31, 2018

ianpspurs said:
A very unwelcome 5.9 today. A less optimistic chap would be be looking at the evidence and feeling very sceptical about LC eating etc as nothing more than weight control. It would appear that an urgent return to taking Metformin is in order as it seems that was at least having a slight effect. I could be a little off colour so I will wait a day or two but bg is the only marker not at the top of its game.

5.9 is more than Ok!

DJC3 · Jul 31, 2018

@Bubbsie Harry is gorgeous

OrsonKartt · Jul 31, 2018

Bubbsie said:
It is sad Orson.. it's bloody tragic watching her condition just deteriorate so rapidly...she was given little or no/bad advice from her HCP's...she accepted that & has got to a point where she feels she will not be able to make any improvement...I tried to offer some gentle advice/encouragement however all that produced was resentment from her...she now refers to me as 'The Diabetes Police'...I have no idea whether she will try for any small adjustments which might be of benefit...we no longer discuss her diabetes.

I have. a couple of friends who just dont seem to have the confidence to disbelieve all the ******** offered free on the NHS ....

OrsonKartt · Jul 31, 2018

Bubbsie said:
That is a tragic mistake GG...but I have to see the funny side of it...or perhaps I should say ironic...honestly you couldn't make it up could you?...tea & coffee was provided at our Desmond course...if you paid for it...the worse instant coffee you could imagine & there was a bowl of sugar there too...possibly biscuits...but they weren't obvious...maybe saved for the reasonable course attendees.

Rich tea....Rich..

DJC3 · Jul 31, 2018

ianpspurs said:
A very unwelcome 5.9 today. A less optimistic chap would be be looking at the evidence and feeling very sceptical about LC eating etc as nothing more than weight control. It would appear that an urgent return to taking Metformin is in order as it seems that was at least having a slight effect. I could be a little off colour so I will wait a day or two but bg is the only marker not at the top of its game.

Ian I am watching your no metformin progress with interest, because I’m too much of a wuss to come off it yet. Other people have said it takes a while to settle down though, and your body becomes more sensitive, so the slightest change in diet will cause a blip.
I see Metformin like a buffer. One of its jobs is to reduce the release of glucose from the liver so it’s understandable that your fbg is higher than before without met’s restraining effect.
What are your daily averages like? And how about post prandial, have you seen any difference there?
Its still early days, don’t get disheartened yet.

HarryBeau · Jul 31, 2018

OrsonKartt said:
I have. a couple of friends who just dont seem to have the confidence to disbelieve all the ******** offered free on the NHS ....

Sadly mine didn't & now she has such a sense of entitlement to eat as she pleases... she believes she cannot pull things back...and seems to have given up trying.

OrsonKartt · Jul 31, 2018

OrsonKartt said:
I have. a couple of friends who just dont seem to have the confidence to disbelieve all the ******** offered free on the NHS ....

oops I got starred up...the word I was trying to express in a colloquial manner was "nonsense". .| I had expressed this by joining two words. The first word was ball and the second, another word for bodily waste matter. I dont know if anyone would find that offensive but hey ho !

OrsonKartt · Jul 31, 2018

Bubbsie said:
Sadly mine didn't & now she has such a sense of entitlement to eat as she pleases... she believes she cannot pull things back...and seems to have given up trying.

Sad is the only word I have. Maybe tragic

ianpspurs · Jul 31, 2018

DJC3 said:
. What are your daily averages like? And how about post prandial, have you seen any difference there? Its still early days, don’t get disheartened yet.

Not testing as much just now as I am waiting ~~aware~~ something is not quite right and of my own haste to ditch things if there is any hint of a problem.

Edit: Just tested 2 hrs after high fibre chocky bar and was 5.4. Has been lower but since I think I am not quite right that seems a draw. Heading off to Nordic Walking now.

HarryBeau · Jul 31, 2018

DJC3 said:
@Bubbsie Harry is gorgeous

Harry is currently slumped on the rug having just got back from his walk...he really does struggle in the hot weather...I always have some treats in my pocket to encourage him to keep going...there's no way I could carry him home...he has such a sweet nature he just wants to play...he has ambition to be a lap dog but sadly his physique lets him done.

HarryBeau · Jul 31, 2018

OrsonKartt said:
Sad is the only word I have. Maybe tragic

I think negligent would be more appropriate...she was very badly served however I am convinced she can make some improvement even at this stage...she won't even try.

Alexandra100 · Jul 31, 2018

ianpspurs said:
A less optimistic chap would be be looking at the evidence and feeling very sceptical about LC eating etc as nothing more than weight control

How LC are you eating?

geefull · Jul 31, 2018

good afternoon all

was 4.1 this morning.

spent most of the morning mowing grass at mum's whilst she was out getting her blood pressure rechecked. Thankfully it's ok at the medication level she is on

These diabetic training courses sound like a cross between a hoot and a tragedy (as in - if you didn't laugh you'd cry ) What a waste of an opportunity!

I haven't been on any diabetic training, haven't been offered any, all I got was a few printouts of the standard advice and eatwell plate. Perhaps it's just as well, having done my own homework, spent time here with you good people and having been born in Yorkshire I fear my potential input would be blunt to say the least

ianpspurs · Jul 31, 2018

Alexandra100 said:
How LC are you eating?

Not exact as that was becoming obsessive weighing and analysing then changing everything. I am as low as I want to go I would say not above 35 gms but I post my day's food in the thread and others may feel I am lying to myself.

DJC3 · Jul 31, 2018

ianpspurs said:
Not testing as much just now as I am waiting aware something is not quite right and of my own haste to ditch things if there is any hint of a problem.

Edit: Just tested 2 hrs after high fibre chocky bar and was 5.4. Has been lower but since I think I am not quite right that seems a draw. Heading off to Nordic Walking now.

That seems pretty good to me. So long as you are still in nondiabetic region, all is well.

DJC3 · Jul 31, 2018

Bubbsie said:
Harry is currently slumped on the rug having just got back from his walk...he really does struggle in the hot weather...I always have some treats in my pocket to encourage him to keep going...there's no way I could carry him home...he has such a sweet nature he just wants to play...he has ambition to be a lap dog but sadly his physique lets him done.

Ha ha my daughter’s Great Dane also thinks she is a lap dog, which is hilarious so long as it’s someone else’s lap!

PenguinMum · Jul 31, 2018

ianpspurs said:
Thanks @DJC3. This one was a bit of an ordeal for mum but arrived safely at a very healthy 9Lbs 2 oz. Hazel Rosemary P the Rosemary was my mum's name so nice touch.

Congratulations Ian. Glad both babies are here and well and the mums. How lovely for them to grow up the same age in the family. They will be great friends. Hope you’ve been giving useful advice to grandson on getting along with the fairer sex (his new sister)!

PenguinMum · Jul 31, 2018

Bubbsie said:
Well I feel cheated now Goonergal...we never did the sugar cubes...perhaps that was the afternoon session when I as absent (with consent) I hasten to add...it really was the most awful course I have ever been to...a complete lack of understanding of how Type 2 can be managed...no alternative views explored...the 'eat well' plate reinforced...no testing...judgement of how we came to be diagnosed (self inflicted was the inference I took from that)...I laughed out loud at the sugar cube avoidance advise...seems appropriate & exceptionally good advice to me.

My Desmond course was almost identical to yours. I was the only one in the room who chose not to take Metformin or statins on diagnosis and this troubled the instructor a lot. She kept bringing it up and looking at me with suspicion lol. Most of the other people were a bit older and I dont think it had occurred to them they could decline what the doctor offered. At lunch it was all sandwiches or pasta salad pots and apples. I brought a bit of ham salad in a tupperware box. Oh and we had two types of biscuits because “we are not going to tell you you cant eat them, you can eat anything”. I understand courses to help T1s learn how to handle insulin but I wonder if T2s could be given a booklet. I dread to think how much Desmond costs and IMO the money could be better spent supplying and encouraging meters. But what do I know?

HarryBeau · Jul 31, 2018

DJC3 said:
Ha ha my daughter’s Great Dane also thinks she is a lap dog, which is hilarious so long as it’s someone else’s lap!

Blimey a great Dane...I should count my blessings then

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