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What was your fasting blood glucose? (with some chat)

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A couple of points Ian...I have friends who were diagnosed several years before me who had been told nothing & knew very little about their conditions...one diagnosed 5 years before me had no idea what an HbA1c test was...after my diagnosis I sat back & waited for the Metformin to work...then out of curiosity I read a little...then read a little more...did some research and came to the conclusion I had to manage this myself...my first diabetes review was a disaster...although I had met the target of reducing my HbA1c from 17.4 to 8.2 my GP insisted on increasing my meds to the maximum dosage...because my results still fell in the 'inadequate control' section of his pie chart...I wrote to him...outlined my concerns...I did not accept the increase & he admitted he knew little about T2 diabetes despite having hundreds on his list...so now when I have a review with him he learns a little more each time...at one appointment he showed me a screen shot for an impending course titled 'Update Your Diabetes Knowledge' he does recommend his T2 patients do some reading...some research...many are unaware of the impact the right sort of diet can have...the benefits of testing....how even a little activity can have a positive impact on their diabetes...to a certain extent they have to accept some responsibility individually however many believe doctor is right...accept what their HCP advises without question...it needs to change...and likely we have to help it change.
 
Bubbsie said:
I believe a major part of the rationale for us being told not to test is little more than a cost cutting exercise.
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Yes and with lots of T2's testing it is cause for a concern that doctors are going to get more and more demands for meters and strips and possible arguments with patients over this hence the anxiety I believe is felt by doctors regarding testing. Though I was being a little flippant with my previous post.
 
John they should see it as an investment...decent education courses rather than the pointless DESMOND course I attended...my GP offered me anti-depressants on two occasions...I refused them since I was not depressed...he didn't have to ask the CCG...he could refer me to whatever specialist necessary if I do not control my diabetes...he's twice suggested I take statins...again I refused since although my cholesterol at 7 is high my ratios are good...again he does not have to refer those to the CCG...for those that do take the medication (statins seem to be a policy decision for all diabetics) that rely on the archaic advice given by many HCPs/Educators to their detriment...it all costs John in more ways than one...far more than a repeat prescription for testing strips.
 
Absolutely agree it's so short sighted as T2 diabetes is fast becoming the scourge of the modern age they should do every thing in their power to combat it and that includes giving the tools and the support for us to do the job.
 
Hi I went down the private route to get an interim fasting lipids panel test via Thriva they do offer a code for new customers of 50% off which brings cost down to 12 quid. You have to subscribe but can stop at any time ie just have the one test and cancel once you have the result. I found it a good way of checking I was heading in right direction. Hope this is useful I’m sure there are other private companies but this is one I used!
 
Well done @geefull you must be delighted and your DN sounds like a keeper too. Great that she asked questions and was open to idea helpful for others you truly are an inspirational story well done you good idea to change to in remission As you’ve been two years with non diabetic hbaca1s congratulations
 
ianpspurs said:
Bloody well done !!!!!!!!!!! Doctors are in a very well paid profession and it would appear they would prefer to spread rumours than speak honestly.....
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My only reservation here would be that I don't think they honestly know what to advise as the best way to deal with this condition. All the textbooks and experience suggests deterioration is inevitable but that is probably largely due to doing the opposite of what most here do/have done. Most of us would look askance at an HCP who said "frankly, I haven't got a scooby what is best" This may well be a case of honesty not being the best policy for the majority. This forum is not a representative sample of diabetics IMHO[/QUOTE]


It is more than OK to say I dont know the answer. Or this may be the answer but I /we/ the NHS cant afford it...what is not acceptable is a lot of hogwash
 
Bubbsie said:
Bloody well done !!!!!!!!!!! Doctors are in a very well paid profession and it would appear they would prefer to spread rumours than speak honestly.....
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My GP was happy to prescribe them Orson...he warned me the local CCG would intervene...were likely to stop him...we had a full discussion...then both agreed I should write to them...challenge their usual stance...so I did...I digested the minutes of my local CCG' s meeting on the T2 testing strips issue...their interpretation of the NICE guidelines on SMBG & T2's ( which was just plain wrong)...so on that basis & my results it would have been very difficult for them to say no...I challenged on a point of principle...those of us that want to test & make good use of that information should have some investment from our HCP's...many cannot afford the strips but want to test...it's makes sense socially & economically...if the CCG's will not listen to common sense & reason they should be challenged...I'd encourage more to do likewise.[/QUOTE]


I agree with you... You are a courageous person...I'm a scaredy cat...its the power thing that doctors have.... I'm getting it together but haven't been able to step above the traditional power balance, ie the reverence that my parents showed doctors....so I've just nodded along to their ******** and paid for my own strips....
 
Hi @Canvaspic Ketones will come quicker when you have been on LCHF for a bit longer the lower the carb intake the quicker your body starts using fat for fuel and you will also become fat adapted. What did you have on your 3 day fast?
 


I'm up for that would you have a link for me? Or should I just google it...
 

Excellent news and all well deserved.
 
OrsonKartt said:
It is more than OK to say I dont know the answer. Or this may be the answer but I /we/ the NHS cant afford it...what is not acceptable is a lot of hogwash
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Other people's experience may vary and I hold no brief for Drs in general but I am absolutely certain none have ever knowingly given me a load of hogwash.
 

Fab x
 
ianpspurs said:
Other people's experience may vary and I hold no brief for Drs in general but I am absolutely certain none have ever knowingly given me a load of hogwash.
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Sorry, but on one or several occasions qualified medical practitioners have tried that approach with me when the are afraid to admit I don't know. I check and recheck if I didn't I would be dead. Blunt but true.
 
Congratulations geeful well done
 
ianpspurs said:
Other people's experience may vary and I hold no brief for Drs in general but I am absolutely certain none have ever knowingly given me a load of hogwash.
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Every time a doctor told you not to test you believed it? I don't think so, so what was that if it wasn't hogwash?



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alf_Josiah said:
Sorry, but on one or several occasions qualified medical practitioners have tried that approach with me when the are afraid to admit I don't know. I check and recheck if I didn't I would be dead. Blunt but true.
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Sadly my respect for the doctoring industry is diminished too. disingenuous information is a far far cry from " firstly do no harm".
 
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