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Discussion in 'Metformin/Biguanides' started by Gracicles, Apr 1, 2016.
Good morning. I was told that Metformin would just stabalise your BS and not actually lower it.
I was diagnosed in 2005 and got it under good control with diet (low carb) and lost most of my excess weight 120 lbs. My doctor told me I was no longer diabetic. WRONG!!!! Over the years I slipped back into old habits, stopped monitoring, and gained most of the weight back. Was reacquainted with the fact that I am diabetic 6 weeks ago with an A1c of 10.5% and put on metformin 500mg twice a day, and forxiga. Went right back to low carb and have stabilized between 5 and 7 and lost about 12 lbs. No matter how good your control gets do not let anyone tell you that you are "cured". Good luck
Once a diabetic always a diabetic, there are some bad doctors out there that's why I put a complaint about mine (and I'm going all the way with it ) good luck
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Also metformin gets it under control and stops you having a hypo
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Metformin doesn't stop you having a hypo. It just doesn't cause hypos.
Anyone can hypo, even non-diabetics, they are just less likely to do so than diabetics who are on drugs like gliclazide and on insulin.
sorry for that but my juggle meetings for newly diagnosed diabetics said metformin wont let you sugar level drop below 4
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Mine was 56 and I currently take x2 Metformin tablets daily but I am on a mission to lose lots of weight, go low carb to lower my levels for my next review.
Hi, I am new to this site and would appreciate some comments and guidance. I was diagnosed type2 in April with a BG of 6.6 which had been monitored for a number of years and had been at this level for a year or two. I am concerned that I was immediately put on 2 x500mg of Metformin twice daily (2000mg in all) starting with one per week building up to four. I have been on the full dose for about 3 weeks now and feel constantly nauseous. I could tolerate that in the hope that it would pass but I now also feel generally unwell. I am wondering whether the high dose I have been put on is too high for my BG levels as I have since spoken to lots of people who have slightly higher BG levels than mine but have been controlling it by diet. I wasn't given the opportunity to control it this way, even though I told the Dr that I had been on a LCHF diet since February and had lost 1 stone (now 1.5 stone). Following diagnosis I had a 30 min appointment with a practice nurse who talked me through the dos and dont's but when I questioned the fact that I had been put straight onto metformin she indicated that she encouraged the GPs in the practice to prescribe this earlier to prevent complications in the future. I am really at a loss what to think. I have decided today to stop taking the metformin for the time being to see if the feeling of unwellness clears and then speak to the Dr accordingly. I will not have my bloods checked now until I see the nurse again in 6 months time. Should my BG be checked before this?
Like many others on this site, I was angry with my diagnosis and thought it very unfair as I have always eaten a healthy diet although perhaps too much of it! I have never had a sweet tooth so I can't even cut out sweets. I have friends who could happily live on sweets and chocolates without any problems with BG levels and yet when I asked why I had developed this I was told it was my lifestyle over the past 40 years! I did resent this as I have had a healthy life, take regular exercise and eat good quality food and drink only in moderation. I was a little overweight but that has been addressed now. Your comments would be very much appreciated, thank you.
Hi I been type 1 for ten year now and hba 1c has been badly high since day dot though I try but never seem to succeed it's still at 107 but regardless of me askin for help I still get nowhere so I think yours bein 57 is pretty good to mine bein 107
Hello and welcome.
I will start by saying that I am not a doctor and this is only my opinion. Metformin dosage does not have to be all or nothing, I would talk to my doctor about maybe going back to 1 pill per day and taking things a lot slower. In the end the decision on whether to take a med or not is yours. In the meantime you should be testing yourself at home if you are not already and that will tell you if the metformin is helping or not. As to you causing this, there is more and more evidence all the time that the underlying metabolic issues cause the weight gain and hunger and carb addiction which make the metabolic issues worse. Vicious circle that. You know you have lived a healthy life so don't let ignorance like that bother you. You already have the diet figured out so you are ahead of the game. Best wishes to you
Thank you so much for your encouraging comments. One thing though, I was refused the testing kit as people 'tend to become obsessed with testing'. So I'm unable to gauge when I'm eating the right and wrong foods for me. Maybe I should push for it?
We T2s usually end up buying our own.
The real reason they don't supply them for us is the cost, and the fact that a lot of people are not motivated to make dietary changes based on the info they get from testing.
Personally, I find that having paid for the d$mn test kit and strips, I am even more motivated to act on the testing data.
I use the SD Codefree ( avail Amazon, eBay and the manufacturers, HomeHealth) at a cost of £7 for 50 test strips.
Worth its weight in gold, IMHO
Hi Mike, I'm back again, feeling much more positive. In the 12 weeks since diagnosis I have lost 2 stone and gone from 64 to 43 in my Hb1Ac tests. Yes, I'm still taking the medicine but my doctor and diabetic nurse are really amazed. Really aiming to be off the meds soon.
Hmm a confusing picture isn't it? I was initially going for dietary changes to come off all Meds.
I am on 1000mgs Metformin, 7-5 mg Ramipril & 20mg Pravastatin although my Blood Pressure & Cholesterol levels were OK for a non diabetic, they need to be lower once diagnosed as diabetic, to prevent micro, renal and cardiovascular problems. However even if we are diet controlled the fact is being diabetic means that we are at a greater risk of cardiovascular disease, and the outcome following cardiovascular events is worse. Metformin appears to limit cardiovascular death in patients with type 2 diabetes. Some studies have demonstrated that metformin limits (myocardial) ischemia and reperfusion injury, independent from its glucose-lowering effect. So all the bog standard advice is still good ie Stop smoking, lose weight, take exercise, eat more healthily( The LCHF program is a great resource and a good start.
I am now coming to the conclusion that I will stay with the 3 agents above but I am still researching the side effect profiles of the various agents I am on, before making a judgement call. Moan at your Gp re self testing, it might work, if it does not then it is well worth the money , as you can work out what foods are really a no go area for you
Current Numbers May 2016
HbA1c - 37 mmol/mol IFCC standardised, BMI 28,Serum LDL Cholesterol level 1.9 mol/l
Exercise 3 times per week for an hour High Intensity, 7 days per week 60 mins Cardio/Fat Burning level, Diet - Low/No Carb and Higher Fat (though I may change to Low fat soon)
Hope this helps in some way, it took me ages to take control of my diabetes & future and not blame myself for the past etc
I was diagnosed with an FBG of 12.00 19 years ago and have been on metformin ever since. This link may be helpful in understanding what metformin does: http://www.diabetes.co.uk/insulin/diabetes-and-metformin.html
There is research evidence of a cardiac benefit in taking metformin and of emerging cancer protective properties.
Hi . My Hba1c was 61 which I thought was fine ( about 7.6 ) but now they are saying it should be about 48