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when to eat what

sugarfreelife

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Type 2
I am getting so confused as the more I read the less I know, can anyone tell me when I should eat starchy carbs, in one place it says with every meal but in another place it says not, can anyone point me in the right direction of a good diabetic meal plan

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There is no such thing as a 'Diabetic Meal Plan'.........you just have to work out what is good for you and your Bg levels. A balanced diet can vary for each individual.

The advice that Daisy gave you in your other (Sugar) thread has to be the way forward, deciding how many carbs you want to eat and if that level gives you good control is what you have to work out. Everybody is different.

I eat more carbs than some here, I also eat a lot less than some others... :? Confusing it is !!
 
Do you have meter, SFL?

If you do, in your place I would eat just one day of meals exactly as you did before your diabetes diagnosis. Test your blood glucose (bg) fasting, just before every meal, 2 hours after every meal, and before you go to bed. Keep a record of what you eat and what your meter shows. That will show you what's happening on your previous diet.

Then reduce the amount of carbohydrates you've been eating at every meal. Half the breakfast cereal; only one slice of toast; salad instead of a sandwich for lunch; only one potato or spoonful of rice/pasta at your evening meal. No puddings :cry: maybe a small piece of fruit instead, or a sugarless yoghurt with berries. Keep testing so you can see what's going on, and keep a record.

You'll soon see which foods send your bg up. Buy a carbohydrate counter book, and look up everything that you eat so you know what has a lot of carbs and what is fine. The lower the carbs per 100g, the better. You can have meat, fish, eggs, cheese, green leafy vegetables, cauliflower, broccoli and lots of salad without too much trouble, so you don't have to go hungry.

Find a substitute sweetener that you like, and try to reduce sweetness in everything. I use Splenda, but there are others.

I seem to remember you're Type 2. So am I! The NICE guidelines for Type 2 blood glucose levels are in the Introductory Notes that Daisy sent you on your other thread. That's what you're aiming for, and what you should compare your bg readings with when you test.

My daily menu is: 2 eggs for breakfast; fish or meat salad for lunch; meat, fish or poultry with low-carb veg for supper. I'm very low carb 'cos I'm trying to lose weight, which you might not want to do. Maybe aim for 70g - 100g of carb each day to start with, and see what happens. I'd spread it out between the three meals, thoug it doesn't have to be even.

I can eat the occasional slice of wholemeal bread without too much trouble. I'm also okay with lower-carb fruits and cream. Some people can have porridge for breakfast. Some people can manage a potato, or one spoonful of rice or pasta! We are all very different, so we each have to learn our own body's reactions by testing a lot, particularly at the beginning.

No-one is saying that it's easy, but it's not as hard as it seems to begin with. You're learning all the time. It soon becomes second nature, and it's not all deprivation!

I'm going out for a meal tonight. There will be something I can eat for a starter - mushrooms or prawns or pate; even melon; then I'll have meat or fish (no pies!) with green veg, maybe a small portion of carrots, and a potato for a treat! No pudding - I'll have cheese with maybe a couple of oatcakes. I shall drink a couple of small glasses of wine - no more 'cos I'm driving.

I'll have a great night out - good company, no cooking, no washing up, and someone else is paying! There is life after diabetes - don't let it get you down!

Hope this helps :D

Viv :)
 
11:15pm. Tonight's meal out was a small blue-cheese souffle w half-slice malted brown bread & butter (not sweet! the bread, that is!); generous portion of pork loin w mushrooms, a few carrots, green beans, 1 small new potato and 2 little roasties; small portions of Yorkshire Blue cheese, Wensleydale and Swaledale w 1 biscuit. 2 small glasses red wine. BG reading 2 hours later - 6.8. Not bad, considering!

My friend had an enormous prawn cocktail which I considered but not sure what was in the sauce, though I could have asked; pheasant with lentils & pearl barley (both carbs) and the same veg as me; apple crumble and custard (a no-no for me).

Normally I wouldn't have had the souffle (contains some flour); no bread; no potatoes but more veg eg broccoli and cauliflower instead. There was a fresh fruit salad in juice, with cream, if I'd wanted a pudding. It was all delicious, and it doesn't happen often, so I let myself have a treat. It's perfectly possible to have a nice meal out if you think about it.

Viv :)
 
I'm glad you enjoyed your treat, Viv. I find a treat helps to keep me on the straight and narrow the rest of the time :) And it's possible to have a good night out without having too many carbs.
 
Thanks Viv, really helpful to me, I am working my way around what I can and cannot have, I do need to lose a lot of weight but I do need to have some starchy carbs as if I dont I feel really sick..this has always been a problem when dieting pre-Diabetes also.
When I was first diagnosed I thought I had to have a special diet but now realise it is just a healthy eating lifestyle change... I live in France and the dietician recommended I look here for help and I know this forum will be a great asset to my life from now on.

Thanks Again

Roz
 
Hi Roz

If you look on the Low-carb Diet Forum you'll find a post called 'Viv's Diet'. Look for the first post on that thread.

It's based on the Atkins diet, and therefore contains more fat than some people can eat, so it's not for everyone. However, if you use that food list as a basis for eating, it gives you about 25g of carbohydrate per day. If you then need to eat some starchy carbs, you could choose which ones to have by going low GI, and aiming to add about 30g to 50g of carb daily. You could use oatcakes, or Ryvita, or maybe a slice or two of wholemeal bread. Make sure you read the labels to check the amount of carbs, and test to see how they affect your bg levels.

DOn't forget to drink plenty of water.

You should start losing weight if you follow that way of eating. There are other diets/lifestyles on that forum which will help as well. Or look at the 'Losing Weight' forum (I think that's what it's called). Plenty of choice, and they've all worked for someone - it's just a matter of finding what suits you.

Good luck! I'm losing weight very slowly, but at least it's going!

Viv :)
 
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