Who eats processed foods?

[Bluetit1802]

A 3 egg omelette with a round of toast only requires 2 units of insulin, the carbs in the bread cancel out the gluconeogenesis.

I believe that is because gluconeogenesis only happens in the absence of carbs. Normally.

 

[Bluetit1802]

And how about the mercury in the tuna? That isn’t even processed.

Change over to wild caught Pacific salmon! Much safer.

 

[Listlad]

Change over to wild caught Pacific salmon! Much safer.

Exactly.

I believe a lot of tinned tuna is caught in the Pacific. Not sure where I came across that one. My wife’s mother’s employer is a bit of an eco specialist to say the least and I get all my pacific oriented info from him.

The theory is that we are all fishing from the same big swirling pond.

 

[therower]

I believe that is because gluconeogenesis only happens in the absence of carbs. Normally.

That’s correct.

 

[NicoleC1971]

New Data out and on the news saying how bad processed foods are, and how bad salt is. The grain thing and fruit brought back on the table again. They are saying that bad diets are killing people more than smoking or drinking. I was wondering how many on here eat Bacon, ham, Salami etc, and how many stay away from them.

Putting it in perspective, if you smoke you have a 30 x risk of getting lung cancer compared to a non smoker. Eating processed meats carries a 1.08 x risk. And if you are salt sensitive you would get high blood pressure but a large proportion of the population are not salt sensitive.
If you are 'carb sensitive' (at risk of metabolic diseases like diabetes) then you may do yourself more damage by eating those healthy wholegrains instead of the bacon!

 

[Bluetit1802]

And if you are salt sensitive you would get high blood pressure but a large proportion of the population are not salt sensitive.

I'm happy to say I'm not salt sensitive. My blood pressure is normal and has been for as long as I know, except for a period when I was on a biological drug that had the temerity to raise it, but even then not to worrying levels. I have always eaten a lot of table salt, bacon, sausages and previously salty snacks like crisps.

 

[Brunneria]

Putting it in perspective, if you smoke you have a 30 x risk of getting lung cancer compared to a non smoker. Eating processed meats carries a 1.08 x risk. And if you are salt sensitive you would get high blood pressure but a large proportion of the population are not salt sensitive.
If you are 'carb sensitive' (at risk of metabolic diseases like diabetes) then you may do yourself more damage by eating those healthy wholegrains instead of the bacon!

Absolutely.

As for what is processed...?
Everyone seems to have their own interpretation - which seems to include foods that they eat as being ‘unprocessed’ and excluding foods they don’t eat as being processed. It’s a moveable feast, apparently.

I eat some processed and some unprocessed foods, but my eating has changed over the years, and will probably do so in future. I am confident that there are other factors that influence my own personal health FAR more.

 

[Deleted member 308541]

I have always eaten a lot of table salt

I like salt as well, eat it with everything.

 

[Listlad]

As for what is processed...?
Everyone seems to have their own interpretation - which seems to include foods that they eat as being ‘unprocessed’ and excluding foods they don’t eat as being processed. .

Exactly.

 

[Listlad]

I like salt as well, eat it with everything.

I eat salt with my salt.

Not really. I did cut it out completely for many years. I now add it in liberal quantities that I haven’t done for many years.

 

[Member496333]

One of the most tedious things about trying to live a lifestyle that minimises processed food is the nitpicking and finger wagging from those who have different expectations of their own diet.

 

[Listlad]

One of the most tedious things about trying to live a lifestyle that minimises processed food is the nitpicking and finger wagging from those who have different expectations of their own diet.

The irony in that is not lost on me.

 

[Guzzler]

Another day, another study. This morning the BBC are reporting on a study about booze.

 

[Robinredbreast]

Another day, another study. This morning the BBC are reporting on a study about booze.

Dion't tell me they have found out it is............ alcoholic

 

[andromache]

Putting it in perspective, if you smoke you have a 30 x risk of getting lung cancer compared to a non smoker. Eating processed meats carries a 1.08 x risk. And if you are salt sensitive you would get high blood pressure but a large proportion of the population are not salt sensitive.
If you are 'carb sensitive' (at risk of metabolic diseases like diabetes) then you may do yourself more damage by eating those healthy wholegrains instead of the bacon!

Completely agree. A hazard ratio of less than 2 is usually more likely to be noise than signal. And generating scary headlines out of a 1.08 risk in this context is just bad science.

 

[Muddikins]

Completely agree. A hazard ratio of less than 2 is usually more likely to be noise than signal. And generating scary headlines out of a 1.08 risk in this context is just bad science.

Absolutely.
Then we have 'regression to the mean'.

 

[Mr_Pot]

As for what is processed...?
Everyone seems to have their own interpretation - which seems to include foods that they eat as being ‘unprocessed’ and excluding foods they don’t eat as being processed. It’s a moveable feast, apparently.

Agreed. Tap water is good example of a highly processed food with additives.

 

[Viv19]

For those of us who still eat meat, be aware that under the modified Tariffs to be applied if we Brexit with No Deal, then beef and pork will have a 40% duty slapped on it, but wheat and grain products will be dropped to zero by the government. Not sure if it is both imports and exports, or just our exports to EU that get these tariffs. I tried to check the HMRC excise duty website, but it does not mention Brexit at all. Not sure where one finds the WTO tariff lists either. I am not a businessman.

Better then to eat British meat! I don’t eat lots of meat here in Germany. Pigs are mostly raised in intensive piggeries, regulations are not as demanding as in the U.K. There’s very little space, teeth pulled to stop them biting each other, and that’s before thinking about the antibiotics necessary to prevent disease in animals living so close together. Apart from the pigs, I was once proudly shown around the barns for the cattle. Horrible doesn’t cover it.

 

[Antje77]

I just ate processed cauliflower. I cut it up and cooked it, which makes it processed.

 

[Robbity]

I just ate processed cauliflower. I cut it up and cooked it, which makes it processed.

And that puts "processed" perfectly in perspective,doesn't it!

@Antje77 you beat me to it - I was just about to post that I eat a fair bit of "processed" food - with much of the actual processing being done in my own kitchen with my own fair(?) hands.

Having said that, I'll admit to a certain amount of compromise as I do also eat some non-Robbity processed food as well, but I've become much more aware now of ingredients and much more selective about which I might choose to eat. But that same sort of choice is also applied to certain unprocessed foods as well, if I believe they're not suitable or necessary.

I've always eaten salt and normal fat foods all my life, and they've done me no apparent harm, it was being expected to eat more and more carbs over the last ten or so years that "done me in"!

Robbity