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Whole Plant Food diet

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by wellperson, Apr 2, 2019.

  1. wellperson

    wellperson Type 2 · Member

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    I reversed my Type 2 Diabeties 4 years ago on a low carb high protein diet which worked at first but because it did not address my insulin resistance and it came back..I was tired and could not lose the weight I put back on no matter how low carb/high protein I went.
    I have now after reading fantastic research by diabetic doctors in the US like Dr Joel Fuhrman, am on the road to reversing it properly with a low fat whole plant food diet so beware of low carb diets, they are short term not long term.
     
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  2. Resurgam

    Resurgam Type 2 (in remission!) · Expert

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    So you invented a whole new way of eating - high protein and low carb - now you are trying high carb low fat. If it works for you and you feel well doing it, good. What sort of results has it brought you?
    I'm afraid I will be sticking to the low carb high fat option as it has worked for a lot of people for decades.
     
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    bulkbiker Type 2 · Master

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    How did you put the weight back on? Surely not by following a low carb high protein diet?
     
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    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    Make sure you understand that supplements are essential on your choice of diet.
     
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    NoCrbs4Me I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Winnie53 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Our diabetes group supports its members in finding the diet right for them. Of all the whole food, plant based (WFPB) diets I've looked at, Joel Fuhrman's is the least restrictive for diabetes so that's the one I encourage members to try first if they choose to go in that direction because it allows a limited amount of eggs and other sources of proteins and healthy fats.

    As Guzzler pointed out, supplementing is required for this diet. I suggest you do a search and sample the varying opinions on this topic: "required nutritional supplements for plant based diet"

    I've been on the low carb ketogenic diet for 4 years and continue to do well. By the way, weight gain is a problem on ALL diets. If you try this diet, diabetes author Jenny Ruhl suggests following it as described for three months before making any changes to it. Hope it works well for you. :)
     
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    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Guru

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    Good luck with it. I'll stick to my low carb/high fat/normal protein diet. It has served me well for over 5 years.
     
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    Mbaker Type 2 (in remission!) · Well-Known Member

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    Glad for you, however the protocol that failed for you is giving me my best numbers and health ever.
     
  9. Jim Lahey

    Jim Lahey I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I’m unsure by which mechanism a diet is able to reverse insulin resistant diabetes without addressing insulin resistance. I don’t doubt the outcome but I wonder if perhaps some details have been misunderstood along the way.

    Good luck with the new approach.
     
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    JohnEGreen Other · Expert

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    Well now I've been doing low carb high fat for over two years now works fine for me and for many others here who have been LCHF a lot longer than I so forgive me if I ignore your forebodings and warnings I shall continue as I have been, you of course are quite at liberty to follow whatever diet works for you.
     
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    zand Type 2 · Expert

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    Can I ask how much fat you have on this diet? How do you know you are getting enough but not too much? I tried plant based eating for a short time but got ill, probably because I didn't add enough fats, so I have been put off trying again.
     
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    Tipetoo Type 2 · Expert

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    I recommend the Big Mc Pickle burger, even the cheese is plant food.

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    Muddikins Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Well, fairs fair so I went and had a look.
    If I ate what he suggests it would make me very sick, unlike what I do eat which makes me well.
    Too many grains, high carb veg and pulses for me and my poor pancreas.
    I find the list of 'essential' supplements, alongside the 'recommended' supplements and all the other supplements along with the food stuffs for sale of some concern. A healthy LCHF diet based on real food involves none of these.
    I think I will stick to what works for me and a growing number of other people.
    Best of luck with whatever works for you.
     
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    Winnie53 Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Tophat1900 Type 3c · Well-Known Member

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    To be honest, this just sounds like another propaganda pitch. Good luck with it, your going to need it.
     
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    WuTwo Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I am an ethical vegan but do believe in anyone switching to a plant based diet, for any reason - dietary or belief - to do their research before switching. Make sure you get enough fats (at the moment garlic infused olive oil is my favourite, but ordinary extra virgin olive oil is scrummy too). Also track your macro and micro nutrients when you start to be on the safe side. And, whilst you're following this way of eating you should still run your checks at intervals.

    Luckily veganism turned out to be perfect for me (although that absolutely isn't important to me), and my diabetes consultant is more than happy with me, so it's win-win - but we are very careful about balancing foods.

    Always - research is your friend! And never just take one source as gospel.
     
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    Robbity Type 2 · Expert

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    Wishing you the success with you new diet that I've have with low carb.

    My LCHF lifestyle (rather than diet) has kept my diabetes - and weight - under control for well over five years now. It obviously suits me fine, and is close to my original and preferred way of eating (I've eaten normal/full fat food all my life - it was eating too many carbs over recent years that caused my problems), so for me there's no good reason to change at all now.

    Robbity
     
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