I know what metformin does for ME. I gain from metformin. I appreciate not everyone does. We are all different. I only gain by longterm use.I found this video on the internet. I hope those who want to remain on Metformin with low HbA1c levels have considered the points mentioned in it.
Metformin - The Case of Exaggerating Both Benefits and Harms :This is a little old (2015), looks at the harm of High Glucose rather than High Insulin and just looks at drug control of T2D,
but it may educate/surprise people.
Hi RachI have watched this thread with interest, but just wanted to see how others feel before I added my two penny worth. I take 3 x 500mg of Metformin per day and currently am happy to continue doing so for the following reasons.
Firstly in 2018 I had a trial of reducing to 2 x 500mg per day, my blood sugars went up a tiny bit and my HbA1c went up from 34 to 35 so not much significance, however my weight loss stalled, so I went back up to 3.
Secondly I have a few other health conditions which have potential to cause inflammation, stress etc.. which in turn have the potential to raise my blood sugars. With this in mind I like to keep a good ‘margin for error” between my blood results and the bottom end of prediabetic, insurance if you like.
I feel sometimes I am in the minority here in being content taking medication and not just going for diet alone. I feel my diet is adjusted enough to a level where my diabetes is in remission without being compromised to the point of being unsustainable. If I were to stop the Metformin I may have to change my diet further to a point where I couldn’t enjoy my food any longer.
I need to add that I get absolutely no side effects from Metformin and my kidney function which is checked regularly is normal.
I am fairly sure that some doctors, diabetic nurses, and consultants, must curse this site, because of the ever-increasing numbers of patients who want to stop their drugs.
Hi MikePlease do not start that anti-vaxxer conspiracy theory. Doctors, and specially nurses are not getting any "kickbacks" specially not in NHS, or any other national health services. For doctors salary the kickbacks money would be trivial (except for USA drug prices) compared to risk of losing their license and going to jail.
There might be a problem of doctors too eagerly pushing for drugs, but outside USA it is not kickbacks.
How would that even work ? In civilized world there is no way of companies knowing which doctor prescribed what. There are no more prescription pads doctors could photocopy and send to companies for payment.
Doctors push out too many pills because it is easy, I mean if you indiscriminately prescribe antibiotics to every patient chances are for maybe like 30% they do nothing and they heal up by themselves, for another 38% they actually help a little but not really needed, maybe 30% those were absolutely needed and maybe 2% they cause acute problems. Still it is numbers game 98% of those patients were "healed" from the acute problem they had. Not counting damages this indiscriminate antibiotics use will cause to them and all others; killing off good bacteria and developing antibiotics resistant strains. Also the risk. General guideline says: prescribe Metformin for diabetes diagnosis. If that turns out bad they followed the guideline. If they try to do better and it fails, they might get sued for malpractice.
All drugs are poisons. But at right dosage and right drug mostly kill or damages what it is meant to. Problem is none of them are very accurate and human bodies are so different. But in many cases drug side effects are the much lesser evil. So choose you poison; Metformin or Sugar. Best option would ofc be neither, but when that is not possible for most Metformin is much lesser evil.
Drugs are not always bad, mmmkay.
P.S. I am also planning of ditching drugs, IF I can. But only when I can.
I think that it is very individual. I had memory lapses and brain fog when my HBa1c levels were 65. They have reversed when my blood sugar levels went down to 40 through diet alone.I found this video on the internet. I hope those who want to remain on Metformin with low HbA1c levels have considered the points mentioned in it.
Metformin - The Case of Exaggerating Both Benefits and Harms :This is a little old (2015), looks at the harm of High Glucose rather than High Insulin and just looks at drug control of T2D,
but it may educate/surprise people.
Me too. I had a very supportive GP who was happy to take me off and see what happened. I had an HbA1C of 40 on metformin and 41 off after 3 months so he let me stay off. My last check was 36Dropped both them and statins inside 6 months.
Metformin is not our enemyI take 2000g a day off metformin sr 2 in the morning and 2 in the evening. I have had issues with constipation other than that ni other side effects I have my b12 checked and its normal. - it doesn't cause me to go low either so it's a medication I dont have any problems with using to help with my diabetes.
I have watched this thread with interest, but just wanted to see how others feel before I added my two penny worth. I take 3 x 500mg of Metformin per day and currently am happy to continue doing so for the following reasons.
Firstly in 2018 I had a trial of reducing to 2 x 500mg per day, my blood sugars went up a tiny bit and my HbA1c went up from 34 to 35 so not much significance, however my weight loss stalled, so I went back up to 3.
Secondly I have a few other health conditions which have potential to cause inflammation, stress etc.. which in turn have the potential to raise my blood sugars. With this in mind I like to keep a good ‘margin for error” between my blood results and the bottom end of prediabetic, insurance if you like.
I feel sometimes I am in the minority here in being content taking medication and not just going for diet alone. I feel my diet is adjusted enough to a level where my diabetes is in remission without being compromised to the point of being unsustainable. If I were to stop the Metformin I may have to change my diet further to a point where I couldn’t enjoy my food any longer.
I need to add that I get absolutely no side effects from Metformin and my kidney function which is checked regularly is normal.
I hope I reach 72. I've had health problems just after being born in the 970s.ive fought for good health all my life. So when I find a beneficial drug like metformin making a huge difference to my life, of course I not write it off when IBS rears it's ugle head. IBS I only get on very low carb eating. Mind u since changing my multivitamins I've had very little IBS symptoms. It's a fine balance of diet for me. Equally eating vegetables and how it effects my thyroid. Heart disease creeps up on us but I don't use a statin and I get high HDL and low LDL and collectively in lower 6s. I'm not convinced anything other then walking helps with dispelling cholesterol. For me. I don't eat margarine which I feel sticks to our arteries. Just like our kitchen appliances.Well I've been off Metformin over three years now and it change my life I wouldn't go back on Metformin for a million pounds it ruined my life for 15 years I don't have to tell you what the problem was I couldn't go to a restaurant with out looking for a toilet I'm a. Drug now what changed my life for good I hope .the name of drug is jardiance 10 mg I've just started going to the gym at age of 72 and recommend that to any one I haven't lost any weight but it gets me out of the the house
Probably because your never had to look round for a toilet every time you go to a restaurant I had to now will I go back on Metformin good luck to everyone who are on the devil drugcompletely the same as you. Back on it full dose and happy to do so. Helps with weight and hunger as well as other benefits.
I was in a lot of pain too with cramps so I know just how metformin can take its toll. In fact the same with pre period shows. Loose tummy, diarrhea and cramps..... then a period after none for on average 8ths. Once I got over the first few days I was delighted... I ovulated. On my own. No IVF to induce it. Then every month got a bit easier and actively trying to get pregnant was a joy instead of dread and pumped with IVF hormones and hospital procedures/appointments.Probably because your never had to look round for a toilet every time you go to a restaurant I had to now will I go back on Metformin good luck to everyone who are on the devil drug
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