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Zero carb/Carnivore

Discussion in 'Low-carb Diet Forum' started by bulkbiker, Dec 31, 2018.

  1. Goonergal

    Goonergal Type 2 · Moderator
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    Similar to bulkbiker. Feel good eating carnivore and need to shed a bit of flab around my middle. Am also hoping it can help with some of my remaining craving issues.
     
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  2. NicoleC1971

    NicoleC1971 Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    If you get 2 or more of these symptoms please put a pic of yourself with an orange instead of Jason Fung!
    Frequent colds
    Loss of energy
    Frequent infection
    Bleeding or tender gums
    Easy bruising
    Nose bleeds
    Acne!!!!!
    Slow wound heling

    Acne

    Red pimples on skin
     
  3. Mr_Pot

    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    For 67 years I ate lots of carbs, particularly vegetables. I have never had any serious illness, or any symptoms of diabetes. I was only diagnosed at a routine health check. Maybe there is a downside that carnivores have yet to discover. Personally I try to have as much variety in my diet as possible, just moderate the carbs. Not only do I enjoy all the different tastes and textures but I am also hedging my bets on the health front.
     
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  4. Brunneria

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    Eating carnivore does NOT cause scurvy in the absence of carbs.
    I suggest you read this, since you seem to think that eating carnivore will lead to vitamin C deficiency.
    https://zerocarbzen.com/vitamin-c/
    (this is something that comes up over and over again when people encounter carnivory, so nowadays I just direct them to that web page which explains everything very clearly)
     
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  5. Goonergal

    Goonergal Type 2 · Moderator
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    Whatever works for you is great.

    Perhaps there is an unknown downside to carnivore. All I know is that since going Keto - and occasional carnivore, I realise just how bad I felt before - sluggish, lacking in energy, emotionally low and all round poor health, including chronic seemingly intractable migraine.

    All that has changed. I feel great physically and emotionally have energy to burn - I have walked almost 10 miles, mostly at pace, this morning and am still going strong.

    If I’m going to go early because of what I eat, I’l ll take this quality of life all day long.
     
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  6. britishpub

    britishpub Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I'm pretty certain that sailors in "ye olden dayes" did not get scurvy because they only ate fresh meat every day.
     
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  7. SamJB

    SamJB Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    @Brunneria As I said, people are free to do whatever they want. I'm a liberal person, I won't judge anyone for what they choose to do. It's just I got caught in the trap of chasing ever better HbA1c results, restricting myself even more, when I didn't need to. An HbA1c in the 40s will provide protection against complications (the whole point of good control and the reason most are on this forum), so that's good enough for me.

    If people want to eat a carnivore diet to improve their quality of life, then great.

    As this is a diabetes forum, people shouldn't think that a carnivore diet is required to tighten control and avoid complications.
     
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  8. Brunneria

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    Sailors got scurvey because they ate meat and ships biscuits.
    The carbs in the biscuits turned off the alternative pathways that allowed them to function without Vitamin C.
    The problem wasn't the meat, it was the carbs + the meat.
    Read the link.
    Do further reading if that doesn't convince you.


    It would be wonderful if people would stop swamping carnivore threads with old wives tails and misinformation
     
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  9. britishpub

    britishpub Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Please don't get all shouty.

    I think you must have misread my post, or taken it out of context.
     
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  10. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    Can you show me a quote from this or any thread that has said that? Anywhere?

    You say rather judgementally otherwise you'd just read and ignore? People certainly are free to do whatever they want whether you are a liberal or not.. and to be honest if you want to judge for how we eat then feel free I for one really don't care...

    Reminds me of people who say "Oh I don't mind that you're gay" as if I'd suddenly become straight if they did mind...
     
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  11. SamJB

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    Wow, calm down, there's no need to be so aggressive.

    Please don't passively accuse me of being homophobic, all I'm saying is that a carnivore diet is not required to control diabetes - this is a diabetes forum after all. I really don't know why that's upset you so much. I'm not judging anyone; do what you want, I really couldn't give a monkeys.
     
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  12. britishpub

    britishpub Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I wouldn't recommend eating one of those :bag:
     
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  13. SamJB

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    That'll be the latest diet to be discussed on here that will get people's knickers in a twist
     
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  14. bulkbiker

    bulkbiker Type 2 · Oracle

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    Which as I said no-one here has said apart from you implying someone had.. and if you read what I wrote I did not "passively accuse you of homophobia" . Please don't misrepresent me..

    Instead how about reading some of your own posts back to yourself and checking the tone...?
     
  15. SamJB

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    I've repeatedly said I'm not judging anyone, each to their own, great if it improves your quality of life etc. Maybe you should re-read my posts. I queried why people with excellent diabetes control would do this diet. Again, what's wrong with discussing diabetes on a diabetes forum?

    I don't need to misrepresent you, you said I remind you of homophobic people. Maybe you should practice what you preach, "Instead how about reading some of your own posts back to yourself"
     
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  16. DCUKMod

    DCUKMod I reversed my Type 2 · Master
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    Folks - Let's keep this civil please. I have no wish to get the old forum secateurs or the prunning saw out here, but if the bickering persists that's the best that'll happen.
     
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  17. Goonergal

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    GBK patties are zero carb - they sell their branded ones in supermarkets. Just meat, salt and pepper and pretty tasty.
     
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  18. SamJB

    SamJB Type 1 · Well-Known Member

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    I for one am more than happy to discuss diabetes on a diabetes forum and not homophobia
     
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  19. SamJB

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    I've recently taken to having "gourmet" burgers without the carbs, whilst out. A bit of a revelation, really, can't believe I've been depriving myself of burgers for so long!
     
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    I make my own burger's, but I haven't made any for a couple of months, must make them again soon.
     
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  21. SamJB

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    Yes, someone one here posted about a burger press...must buy one, as mine always turn out a bit rubbish!
     
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