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serenity648 said:
How many carbs do you have a day? It would be interesting to know how high some people with T2 can go and still keep control of their blood glucose levels.
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I don't really know, as I never count.
My BG, hba1c is all normal, all my other annual tests are, I have no complications after 6 years,
I tend to still eat a lot of veg though, and avoid processed foods, I don't eat pasta, chips, cakes, sweets etc generally.
(Although I eat sweet potato chips)
My tastes did change dramatically when I did a low calorie diet for about a year initially to lose weight.
I do eat sandwiches, snacks, cakes when I'm out, and typically eating out is normally carb by default, as that's mainly all on offer.
I exercise a lot more now, and do eat smaller amounts so I tend to eat more food I like, rather than flavorless carby bulkers, and overly sweet food.


I did have an exceptionally large pub lunch on Sunday, and I did guess what sort of quantity it was when I was asked. Fish and chips, apple crumble with custard, a pint of beer. It's not a typical meal, but one I can eat nonetheless.

From the other thread.

"I'm guessing here, but I would say around
1500 calories in the main meal, maybe 200g of carbs
600 calories in the pudding, maybe 150g of carbs.
200 calories for the pint of beer, 20 g of carbs maybe

2300 calories, 370g of carbs?

I don't count carbs, only calories, so based on the portion size I reckon the calories are close, but I could be out a bit on the carbs, I had to google a few examples for portion sizes, so maybe a bit less?
I don't normally eat that much, puddings are rare, but I had been out working all morning in the cold, and felt I could afford the luxury."
 
donnellysdogs said:
Everytime I go to my hospital worries me... in 30+ years of being a T1 I have never seen so many people in a hospital in wheelchairs/mobility scooters with feet and leg amputations. Only been to this diabetes dept 4 times. My last visit there were 10 patients there. 8 were in wheel chairs / mobility and waiting for transport! Me and one other lady (T1) and she was young with complications.

It broke my heart that out of 10 patients that day I was the only one "healthy".

Very, very sad to see. This is the 4th appt I have had with similar each time. Not the same day or time etc either on these visits...
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It seems the prepared option of surgeons today, read an article about vascular problems and amputation is preventable but it's down to costs. K
 
douglas99 said:
I don't really know, as I never count.
My BG, hba1c is all normal, all my other annual tests are, I have no complications after 6 years,
I tend to still eat a lot of veg though, and avoid processed foods, I don't eat pasta, chips, cakes, sweets etc generally.
(Although I eat sweet potato chips)
My tastes did change dramatically when I did a low calorie diet for about a year initially to lose weight.
I do eat sandwiches, snacks, cakes when I'm out, and typically eating out is normally carb by default, as that's mainly all on offer.
I exercise a lot more now, and do eat smaller amounts so I tend to eat more food I like, rather than flavorless carby bulkers, and overly sweet food.


I did have an exceptionally large pub lunch on Sunday, and I did guess what sort of quantity it was when I was asked. Fish and chips, apple crumble with custard, a pint of beer. It's not a typical meal, but one I can eat nonetheless.

From the other thread.

"I'm guessing here, but I would say around
1500 calories in the main meal, maybe 200g of carbs
600 calories in the pudding, maybe 150g of carbs.
200 calories for the pint of beer, 20 g of carbs maybe

2300 calories, 370g of carbs?

I don't count carbs, only calories, so based on the portion size I reckon the calories are close, but I could be out a bit on the carbs, I had to google a few examples for portion sizes, so maybe a bit less?
I don't normally eat that much, puddings are rare, but I had been out working all morning in the cold, and felt I could afford the luxury."
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THank you. Thats helpful and informative. What was your blood sugar level after that meal?
 
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Granny_grump_ said:
My sister and grandson are both type1 I'm type 2 my sister has recently undergone two vein graft surgeries on same leg and still not a complete success, so now all she has to look forward to is amputation and not in the distant future . She has been diabetic since aged 10 now 56, my grandson was diagnosed aged 18 now 30 he had bleeds behind the eyes his job is computer animation if he hadn't gotten on top of his diabetes he could be facing blindness.
And I recently lost a friend type2 with amputated toes gangrene set in he died just after Christmas

My own diabetes has only become controlled since finding this site and by testing everything I eat I found after 17 years type2 I cannot tolerate carbs they spike my BG too much.

People on here have all found out there own body cards tolerances by testing BG when they eat and after they eat. Low carbs works for so many diabetics if you don't want to do low carb that's your prerogative but don't knock what others do to manage their diabetes
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Eh! Yes! EARTH! I don't understand why the mods have not spoken to you over how you are talking to me? This is surely out of order?

That is YOUR family. Also I was and always talking about TYPE 1 experiences. So, I will ignore anything related to type 2 because that is not my field.


To look at your last paragraph. What? I am here because I like to help others. I find help FROM others. I understand people can enjoy a multitude of diets and have done for decades. Healthily. I am sorry for what has happened to your family members.

Personally as you asked, I have two uncles, an aunt and my mother with type one diabetes. As well as myself about to take my 19th diabetic birthday in 2 days. My aunt has over 50 years of this and is approaching 60 years and my uncle is the 'baby diabetic' with 10 years. We all eat carbs. The only complications are due to brittle diabetes (not linked to anything we eat ) and times when there was no other option other than to feed your insulin.

I do not knock anyone's low carb diet. Follow me around this site. I am PRO diets that work for diabetics. I am against those who state LCHF is the only way or those who imply shame on those who eat carbs, or those who suggest to newly diagnosed that carbs will be their downfall. Every diabetic can and should find their own path. And for your information? Every member of my family and their carby diabetes walked out of their last clinic appointments hurried and all but kicked out because we we didn't need help and others did and needed the time. We are managed.
 
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DavidGrahamJones said:
Type I or type II? How high is high? Any diabetics in particular? Is that a fine life with high BG? My father and a cousin both type II, both have fine lives and both have appalling BG. It will catch up with them, actually my dad's poor eyesight is due to poor control, but at 90 I can say he has a fine life, just can't see properly.

Type I? I'm assuming one just takes insulin to cope with the amount of carbs you eat. Maybe something for insulin resistance if it's a problem. Apologies for lack of knowledge.

Type II? Different ball game and one that the medical profession treat as a progressive disease. They prescribe Metformin, been around for years, gives a lot of people the worst diarrhea imaginable. Maybe something like Gliclazide to get the pancreas producing more insulin - until it's knackered and insulin is required, progressive as diagnosed.

Managing type II is easier for a lot of people if they restrict their carbs. Might not suit everyone but if people don't want to, that's fine, it's their choice. Sir Steve Redgrave is a good example, diagnosed type II, I wonder if the huge amounts of carb had anything to do with it? He was injection insulin 6 times a day to continue his exercise and training regime. I wonder what he does now? Cut his carbs I expect.

I daresay the LC thing drives people bonkers, it's not for everyone, but it does make a big difference to the lives of many and in many cases will stop diabetes from being a progressive disease.
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I do speak from a type 1 perspective. I think there is a balance between what all sides of this disease can cope with but it is important to keep all discussions open :) We can all learn from each other. I just want to keep those discussions open as I said.
 
Just a reminder that this site supports all dietary choices and that it's wrong to,demonise foods and make blanket statements about them.

We are all different :)
 
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