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librarising said:
Not really poisoning. Just like drinking too much water CAN kill you, eating exclusively rabbit meat can too. More a case of overwhelming your body's functioning.
https://www.quora.com/Why-can-eating-rabbit-kill-you
Geoff
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From your own link.

"your liver can't process the huge amount of protein involved effectively, leading to ammonia buildup in the blood"

It poisons you by an ammonia build up. (Allegedly)

But it's not a can kill like water, exclusive rabbit will kill you.
 
douglas99 said:
From your own link.

"your liver can't process the huge amount of protein involved effectively, leading to ammonia buildup in the blood"

It poisons you by an ammonia build up. (Allegedly)

But it's not a can kill like water, exclusive rabbit will kill you.
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Thanks for the links. Interesting. I have not heard of that before.
 
Hotpepper20000 said:
Protein poisoning? Can you explain?
Not sure I've heard that before.
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Similar to the link above, a straight steal from Wiki describes it as

"It has been observed that the human liver cannot safely metabolise much more than 221–301 g of protein per day (for an 80 kg/176 pound person), and human kidneys are similarly limited in their capability to remove urea (a byproduct of protein catabolism) from the bloodstream. Exceeding that amount results in excess levels of amino acids, ammonia (hyperammonemia), and/or urea in the bloodstream"

Other meats are a mix of protein and fat, but as rabbit meat is very low fat, eating exclusive rabbit meat (pure protein) exceeds the bodies ability.
 
douglas99 said:
But it's not a can kill, like water, exclusive rabbit will kill you.
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I believe the 'death by water' is a lot quicker than 'death by rabbit'. A rabbit diet will bring on symptoms, which can then be alleviated through remedial action. I maintain a flirt with a rabbit-only diet can kill you, but only if you're stubborn enough to persist (people living in a wilderness don't always have options and die).
Geoff
 
librarising said:
I believe the 'death by water' is a lot quicker than 'death by rabbit'. A rabbit diet will bring on symptoms, which can then be alleviated through remedial action. I maintain a flirt with a rabbit-only diet can kill you, but only if you're stubborn enough to persist (people living in a wilderness don't always have options and die).
Geoff
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One CAN go out of ketosis by eating too much flesh protein as 50 some percent turns to bs. Especially in the absence of carbs. I know I gluconeogenisis very quickly. I need the avocado to slow it down. I'd have very high bs eating more protein than I need.

That being said, I could live on moderate amounts of protein and avocado quite happily. I do like a few veggies though.
 
douglas99 said:
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You rebutted my 'can' and maintained it 'will'.
I maintain it can.
Do you know personally of any individual who's died from adopting a rabbit-only diet ?
Informed meat-eaters know of the year-long experiment with a meat-only diet. Also that a lean meat diet is the best way to make someone ill. Rabbits are (forgive me) a bit of a red herring.
Geoff
 
Kristin251 said:
One CAN go out of ketosis by eating too much flesh protein as 50 some percent turns to bs. Especially in the absence of carbs. I know I gluconeogenisis very quickly. I need the avocado to slow it down. I'd have very high bs eating more protein than I need.

That being said, I could live on moderate amounts of protein and avocado quite happily. I do like a few veggies though.
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I don't think that's how GNG works. It's demand driven.

http://www.ketotic.org/2012/08/if-you-eat-excess-protein-does-it-turn.html
 
librarising said:
You rebutted my 'can' and maintained it 'will'.
I maintain it can.
Do you know personally of any individual who's died from adopting a rabbit-only diet ?
Informed meat-eaters know of the year-long experiment with a meat-only diet. Also that a lean meat diet is the best way to make someone ill. Rabbits are (forgive me) a bit of a red herring.
Geoff
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rabbit starvation is a reality. It happens when you eat loads of protein and not enough fat, your body can't process all the protein and so you don't get enough energy and starve.
 
librarising said:
You rebutted my 'can' and maintained it 'will'.
I maintain it can.
Do you know personally of any individual who's died from adopting a rabbit-only diet ?
Informed meat-eaters know of the year-long experiment with a meat-only diet. Also that a lean meat diet is the best way to make someone ill. Rabbits are (forgive me) a bit of a red herring.
Geoff
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It's well documented, and a scientific fact, but if you need personal experience to believe something, I can't help you there.
We all believe to whatever proof we need.
 
ghost_whistler said:
rabbit starvation is a reality. It happens when you eat loads of protein and not enough fat, your body can't process all the protein and so you don't get enough energy and starve.
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So you saying the process is never reversible ? After one day ? After two ?
Start a rabbit-only diet and death is assured ?
I've never heard of anyone goingon a rabbit-only diet and dying, other than hunters in the wild. Let's get real.
Geoff
 
douglas99 said:
It's well documented, and a scientific fact, but if you need personal experience to believe something, I can't help you there.
We all believe to whatever proof we need.
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I don't deny it. I deny the accuracy of your portayal. I'm well aware of the end result of a lean meat-only diet. Stop tilting at windmills.
Geoff
 
NoCrbs4Me said:
I don't think this thread is about a ketogenic diet, though. "Zero carb" means no plant derived food - i.e. meat (beef, poultry, sheep, etc).and seafood only. So the term "zero carb" is not to be taken literally, as there are some carbs in animal derived food. Of course, zero carb is likely to be a ketogenic diet, but that's not really the purpose of the diet.
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I was replying to the part, don't you need something else to give you the nutrition you need, and don't get on a ketogenic diet? Or something like that!
 
librarising said:
So you saying the process is never reversible ? After one day ? After two ?
Start a rabbit-only diet and death is assured ?
I've never heard of anyone goingon a rabbit-only diet and dying, other than hunters in the wild. Let's get real.
Geoff
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I think you're getting confused here.
We're not talking Atkins, or some celebrity diet.
Maybe you mixed yourself up when you brought 'diet' into the conversation?
 
librarising said:
I don't deny it. I deny the accuracy of your portayal. I'm well aware of the end result of a lean meat-only diet. Stop tilting at windmills.
Geoff
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Maybe you need a time out from the thread, before it goes too far off topic?
I think I shall leave you to it though.
 
Rabbits are a red herring. A bit like me suggesting someone on a plant-based diet should include belladonna.
Geoff
P.S. I'VE NEVER DENIED EATING A RABBIT-ONLY DIET WILL KILL YOU. Can we move on ?
 
librarising said:
So you saying the process is never reversible ? After one day ? After two ?
Start a rabbit-only diet and death is assured ?
I've never heard of anyone goingon a rabbit-only diet and dying, other than hunters in the wild. Let's get real.
Geoff
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Of course it's reversible: change your diet.

If all you eat is lean protein, you run the risk of rabbit starvation.

Most people don't eat rabbit only diets. So it's not a thing that happens much, but it's not solely related to rabbits, it's that they re emblematic of very lean protein.
 
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