Safi
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- Type of diabetes
- Prediabetes
- Treatment type
- Diet only
Hi Safi,
I read your post without first looking at your signature.
Here is the thought process that went through my head ....
2009 - that looks pretty good
2014 - FBG 6.3 trigs 0.45 - that looks pretty healthy - I wonder why her doctor diagnosed her with diabetes?
2017 FBG 4.8 trigs .36 numbers better again that makes sense because now' she's gone low carb and that works to reduce both and this ratio - she's in good shape - I wonder what her hba1C is - I bet that's pretty very low because this person doesn't look particularly diabetic.
Then I looked at your signature and thought
" ah - SHE was definitely one of the lucky ones - her doctor ordered an OGTT at a very early stage in the process when her blood sugar response was slightly deranged . My doctor SHOULD have ordered one by 2011 if not earlier in order for it to have been at the same stage as you.
Then I looked at your Hba1C in 2014 and thought - wow - so Kraft ( which the OGTT seems to be a proxy for) does actually predict things far in advance of the point when it starts to manifest as a real problem given that this person only had an Hba1C of 31 at that time. I also thought - I wonder if Safi has the actual data for the interim results at 30m intervals for this test, or just the 2 hour figures
Finally I saw that the diagnosis in the first place was Pre - diabetic not diabetic .
The questions I would then be asking myself are - a) I wonder how old this person is - ? are you under about 40 ?
and b) I wonder it this person was very overweight when diagnosed - I would guess maybe 10 kg max ?
Then at the very end - current numbers - your figures look astonishingly good, the diet clearly works for you and if you stick with it as a way of life, you probably banished the evils of diabetes from your life - so good on you
The interesting question to me from your data would be - in terms of can LCHF diet CURE diabetes or just keep the symptoms at bay . i.e. Would an LCHF diet still show an abnormal response after two hours like you had back in 2014 ?
We saw from the Rapilose test that @bulkbiker did that his commitment to LCHF meant that even though his interim responses were still deranged, at the two hour mark, his performance was back in the non diabetic range ( i.e. better than yours in 2014 at the 2 hour mark) . So has your commitment to it resulted in a better response after two hours - which my guess would be - is probably yes - or has it kept your numbers within the kraft pattern 1 range at all times during the study- in which case does that constitute CURED diabetes?
My laymen's interpretation so don't assume I know the slightest thing about it ,- I don't I just like to try and see patterns in things. cheers Cherry
Appreciate your thoughts @CherryAA
At the time of my diagnosis (I was 40yrs ish with a bmi of 22 ish very physically active) I actually thought my doctor was being a bit dramatic. I'd gone to see her about a sebaceous cyst that had gone rogue so she took some standard bloods & gave me some antibiotics. Called me three days later to say I had the 6.3 FBG & she'd ordered an OGTT - it was at this point I did some research & went LCHF. Some ten days later or so I toddled off to do the test thinking I'd pass and that the higher FBG was due to the cyst. Of course I failed the **** thing I had no HBA1C at this stage & unfortunately was only given the starting & the 2 hour measurements.
3 months ish later (still LCHF), given my complete lack of any family history or of other metabolic markers (good bp/good cholesterol/good height to waist ratio) I sought a second opinion. At this point I had lost maybe 6kg & my bmi has hovered around 20 ever since. This second doctor did my HBA1C which was 5.1.
Sorry for the wall'o'text but I thought some background was important. To this day I wonder if I failed the OGTT due to having gone LCHF in the interim or if maybe the antibiotics played some role (gut bug changes & whatnot) but I've made my peace with the possibility/probability that I have a somewhat deranged metabolism & as LCHF has seemingly done me nothing but good I'll stick with it.
I hated my OGTT & am loathe to experience it again BUT if I could get one with insulin measurements I'd be all over it!
I don't post a lot these days but I've enjoyed your research & contributions. I'd be fascinated to see if there was any kind of discernible pattern for those forum members who have reactive hypoglycemia but who aren't diabetic - so producing lots of insulin but still very sensitive to it.........