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You can measure your own Insulin Resistance !

Discussion in 'Diabetes Discussions' started by CherryAA, Sep 7, 2017.

  1. CherryAA

    CherryAA Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I just used the MG/DL converted figure as per the original formula.
     
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    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Legend

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    So did I. The one suggested by @Art Of Flowers doesn't work and gives silly results for the Trigs.
     
  3. Mr_Pot

    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    So what do you think are the conversion factors for Trigs and BG?
     
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    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Legend

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  5. CherryAA

    CherryAA Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I guess the question would be - do people actually have fasting Trigs of 1 and fasting BG of 13.73 ? maybe its unlikely that you would have very little carb conversion going on in your bloods and have a high amount of glucose in there at the same time ?

    Also - one thing I have realised about these so called " normal ranges" used in blood tests is that normal is nowhere close to optimal - it is simply what the average of the population is.

    i.e normal range insulin - 2-25 - optimal 2-6 - reason - high carbs in diet increase trig
    normal trigs 0.45 to 1.82 - optimal the lower the better - ie 0.45 - reason high carbs in diet increases trigs
     
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  6. CherryAA

    CherryAA Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    DavidGrahamJones Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I have an insulin resistance number based on normal being equal to 1(no resistance), my IR is 2.5. No need to reply yet, I've got to go and see how they get the figure that was given to me last January by Genova Diagnostics (www.gdx.net).
     
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  8. Bluetit1802

    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Legend

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    He is using the wrong conversion for the Trigs.
     
  9. Mr_Pot

    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    To convert BG from mmol/L to mg/dL multiply by 18.
    To convert Trigs from mmol/L to mg/dL multiply by 88.5.
    18 x 88.5 = 1,593 but the original formula divides by 2
    1,593/2 = 796.5
     
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  10. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    To explore the use of a newly discovered tool by a particular member is, in my opinion, not misleading. The member is not advocating that the undiagnosed should demand treatment based on an algorithm that the member is using to further her knowledge of her own history pre diagnosis.
     
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  11. Ch.R.

    Ch.R. Type 1.5 · Well-Known Member

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    Changes or influences on the Lipids, Triglycerides or Cholesterols
    can have many different causes ! Just ask any Doc. or Prof.

    I don’t like to disappoint you, to me is just objectivity important
    and for that reason we need to be carefully how we apply any
    Internet Search !

    For example and just as a tip, I always put in the search NIH.Gov
    With The Matter and if there is not anything coming out of the US
    NIH as connected with the National Library of Medicine the biggest
    in the world and where the NIH is internationally functioning by
    all its cooperation’s, sponsoring, etc. with any reliable certified
    Institutions or R&D Clinical Centers, then it means it could not
    been of any value or reference to consider, as simple as that.


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  12. Bluetit1802

    Bluetit1802 Type 2 (in remission!) · Legend

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    Right. Apologies. I was still dividing by 2.
    Thank you.

    Many apologies also to @Art Of Flowers

    Maths never was my best subject! :banghead:
     
  13. CherryAA

    CherryAA Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I am sure it does - having said that - for me - in my " steady" state of health other than having diabetes and high bp , each of these three things has responded in pretty much exact correlation to each other and the adoption of an LCHF diet inc 70% fats and 22% sat fats .

    If other people find the same thing using similar proportions - then maybe when one's figures do not do that- then that could be indicative of something else - good or bad either in terms of diet or health.

    Maybe these figures look different for the med diet - maybe the my look better, or worse ?

    maybe someone else eating my diet has an entirely different set of ratios or pattern, who knows in the absence of data.

    In the absence of knowing anyone eles's figures I can only correlate it with myself which I just did for 20 odd years and for me it works.
     
  14. CherryAA

    CherryAA Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Thank you.

    Having seen my own post diagnosis figures and compared them to my prediagnosis figures, I concluded that my trigs were closely correlated to my diabetes. I deliberately went searching on the internet to find if someone had looked into this correlation and found it.

    Having found it and found it also correlated closely to my own figures, it would have been remiss of me not to bring it to others attention here.

    If it so happens that my figure correlate by pure random chance then I apologise to anyone who wasted their time looking. For me personally I will be looking very closely at what things I can do to get my trigs low as well as my hba1c, if somehow that involves anything different from what I am already doing,
     
  15. Guzzler

    Guzzler Type 2 · Master

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    You are welcome. As you are strides ahead of me in your endeavour to understand Diabetes and all its bewildering array of possible causes/effects I find your posts intriguing. However, my lack of knowledge means that I first have to fully understand the basic machinations in order to stem any damage I may already have caused. No use allowing the car to go over the cliff whilst researching the possible causes of brake failure!
     
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  16. CherryAA

    CherryAA Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    That is entirely true - for me the very fact that I've been recording so much data for so long - to so little practical effect in the past - is what drives me to see if any of it is of any use as to what I am about to do next !
     
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    Fleegle Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I confess to being a bit confused.
    I now have a number of 8.37.

    Now I have a number - what is the range of numbers I am looking for?
     
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    Mr_Pot Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    I agree with your calculation and according to @CherryAA 's original post the normal range is 7.22 -9.30
     
  19. Fleegle

    Fleegle Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    Thank you.
    Well that is indeed, potentially, good news, and on a day where that seems in short supply I am going to take it.
    Which, if the above holds true, then it means my problem is lack of insulin production - which means a bit of intermittent fasting or the dreaded VLDC for 8 weeks...
     
  20. NoCrbs4Me

    NoCrbs4Me I reversed my Type 2 · Well-Known Member

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    "Men with values over 8.82 and women with values over 8.73 are most likely to be insulin resistant and have double the chance of developing type 2 diabetes in the future."
     
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