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Triceraptors

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Hello,

I am back again. I have fell ill quite a bit with some issues such as indigestion and stomach issues. I have tested negative for type 1 antibodies but failed glucose tolerance test. twice. Eating low carb mostly.

I am mostly eating chicken, veggies and today decided to try around 20g of carbs in bread. I feel very unwell,
my BG started at 4.9 and measured at 7.1 after around 1.5 hours, I freaked out and went for a walk, measured 5.9. Then laid in bed and 6.9 after 2 hours and still does not go down. The feeling is bad dizziness, strong pressure in eyes sockets, stomach cramps and some itchiness.

I went to two endocrinologists who think all is fine but it is getting on my nerves since it seems to not be fine. Currently, I am also on antibiotics to destroy H pylori, since I have an ulcer in my intestines.

What is wrong with my blood sugars and why do doctors think all is good? It is going on for 3 months already and exhausted me to the end....what can I do? Do I have diabetes or not?
 
with those figures, and the word of two endocrinologists, you need to look elsewhere, as its not diabetes. You may be reacting to the antibiotics.
 
Triceraptors said:
Hello,

I am back again. I have fell ill quite a bit with some issues such as indigestion and stomach issues. I have tested negative for type 1 antibodies but failed glucose tolerance test. twice. Eating low carb mostly.

I am mostly eating chicken, veggies and today decided to try around 20g of carbs in bread. I feel very unwell,
my BG started at 4.9 and measured at 7.1 after around 1.5 hours, I freaked out and went for a walk, measured 5.9. Then laid in bed and 6.9 after 2 hours and still does not go down. The feeling is bad dizziness, strong pressure in eyes sockets, stomach cramps and some itchiness.

I went to two endocrinologists who think all is fine but it is getting on my nerves since it seems to not be fine. Currently, I am also on antibiotics to destroy H pylori, since I have an ulcer in my intestines.

What is wrong with my blood sugars and why do doctors think all is good? It is going on for 3 months already and exhausted me to the end....what can I do? Do I have diabetes or not?
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Triceraptors - Does this happen any time you give yourself a carb hit, or is it just with bread?
 
DCUKMod said:
Triceraptors - Does this happen any time you give yourself a carb hit, or is it just with bread?
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Most of the time when I provide some carbs. Example: lactose in yoghurt, sent me to 7.5. I honestly haven't tried re-loading carbs slowly because the current high fat and protein meals satisfy me quite a bit. Both endos told me that I should slowly increase my carbs but it seems to me that they are both wrong and my meter tells me to not do that ... I think, I am way past "physiological insulin resistance" argument and they both missed something. People don't fail OGTT twice. Of course, I did them under low carb and low calories conditions but still.
 
What were your OGTT results? Did you have around 130g to150g carbs for a few days beforehand?

Whatever infection you have that requires anti-biotics may well be pushing your levels up a little, and anti-biotics come with unpleasant side effects in some people.
 
Bluetit1802 said:
What were your OGTT results? Did you have around 130g to150g carbs for a few days beforehand?

Whatever infection you have that requires anti-biotics may well be pushing your levels up a little, and anti-biotics come with unpleasant side effects in some people.
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Around 12.2. As I said, failed. No I have not that amount of carbs before that. I was not eating enough and had maybe less than 20g a day in me. There are some side effects like more indigestion and bloating plus horrible taste in my mouth.
 
The antibiotics to eliminate H pylori make most people feel pretty awful, I believe. They certainly did with me. An ulcer can also cause nausea, bloating, and abdominal pain. Once you have finished the antibiotics, you should start to feel some improvement.
 
Hi. Be aware that when you have an infection your blood sugar will rise. Your BS figures are quite good anyway and will probably be better when the infection has gone. I wouldn't worry about having diabetes
 
Triceraptors said:
I measured my BG right after getting up it was 5.6 ... what the hell.
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Sounds perfectly fine to me (I wish mine had been that good this morning)
Your OGTT tests can pretty much be ignored because the requirements weren't followed - you weren't eating enough carbs for the required time beforehand. Your BS level may well be slightly raised due to the ulcer and/or antibiotics but is still in the non-diabetic range anyways.
 
Rokaab said:
Sounds perfectly fine to me (I wish mine had been that good this morning)
Your OGTT tests can pretty much be ignored because the requirements weren't followed - you weren't eating enough carbs for the required time beforehand. Your BS level may well be slightly raised due to the ulcer and/or antibiotics but is still in the non-diabetic range anyways.
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None of the doctors I spoke to called it diabetes, but I was told to follow my meter and not eat stuff that cause such spikes. My pancreas is weak, doctors told me it is autonomic nervous system dysfunction, which is very serious and it affects all digestive organs. It could have caused my pancreas to weaken over time, but I am taking a month off work. I plan to eat meat, vegetables, healthy fats and do relaxation techniques, yoga, and autogenic training, plus lots of walking in nature. Less computer screens.

However, I don't like "weak pancreas" statement, because it does not matter why it is weak, only thing that matters is whether there is blood sugar control or not.
 
Triceraptors said:
I measured my BG right after getting up it was 5.6 ... what the hell.
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5.6 are NOT high for fasting BG. Everyting under 6.0 mmol fasting are normal. An abnormal reading would be more than 7.0 mmol fasting.

Triceraptors said:
Both endos told me that I should slowly increase my carbs but it seems to me that they are both wrong and my meter tells me to not do that ... I think, I am way past "physiological insulin resistance" argument and they both missed something. People don't fail OGTT twice. Of course, I did them under low carb and low calories conditions but still.
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You should listen to your endos, I think they might be right. There is nothing wrong with your insulin, and how does your meter tells you diffrently, when you’re always getting normal readings at home?

7.1 mmol 1.5 hour after eating are not even pre-diabetic. Anything less than 7.8 mmol up to 2 hours after eating indicates that your healthy and not at risk of developing diabetes.

I also kind of agree with Rokaab above, your OGTT does not provide an enough reliable picture of your health condition if 1) you ignore some of the requirements beforehand, 2) if you’re sick or have an infection, and 3) if you are on some sort of antibiotics. Don’t know if you are, just mention. Also, all your home results and home-testing indicates that your pancreas has no issues or problems with carbs, which should be a relief.

Triceraptors said:
My pancreas is weak, doctors told me it is autonomic nervous system dysfunction, which is very serious and it affects all digestive organs. It could have caused my pancreas to weaken over time, but I am taking a month off work. I plan to eat meat, vegetables, healthy fats and do relaxation techniques, yoga, and autogenic training, plus lots of walking in nature. Less computer screens.

However, I don't like "weak pancreas" statement, because it does not matter why it is weak, only thing that matters is whether there is blood sugar control or not.
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If you really had an autonomic nervous system dysfunction (ansd) I don’t think it would only affected a single part of an organ. If you really had ansd I think it would be more likely that it affected both, the endocrine and exocrine part of your pancreas, meaning you would not be able to digest food properly. Resulting in severe weight loss, and fatty, greasy stools. Ansd would affect your heartrate, respiratory rate, pupils, bladder and sexual drive. My point is that I find ansd very unlikely, unless you have all these other problems as well, just my thoughts.

Personally I don’t think it sounds like you have a weak pancreas, not when all your home readings are that good, and normal. I really wish you get the help you need, and sort out your problems at last, but as you’ve probably heard from me and many others on here a couple of times already; it is not likely diabetes. I think you should try to get your mind off diabetes for a while, and try looking for other possible causes of your problems and illness. I understand that your symptoms are bad, and I’m not saying that you don’t have problems you shouldn’t get help for, but diabetes is probably not it. I’ve had had several readings above 12 mmol, and I can promise that a BG of 7 or 8 mmol would not make you feel that bad and ill as you describe here. Take care :)
 
Triceraptors said:
I think, I am way past "physiological insulin resistance" argument and they both missed something. People don't fail OGTT twice.
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Hi Triceraptors,
I've been doing a lot, and a do mean a lot, of reading on this exact subject recently. :bookworm:
And may of the sources state that they would fail the OGTT test if they were to take it themselves, due to the way there body is currently processing energy differently. In a low carb diet the oral test is not always an accurate indicator, by itself, it can provide misleading results.
It sound like this might be what your experiencing. I hope that helps put your mind at ease a little bit.

I'm sorry I know that's probably not what you wan to hear, I assume you want someone to identify what's wrong with you so you can start to get better, and the tests seem to be pointing you in one direction.

Stressed, unwell and hot.
You said you were freaked out about your readings, stress can cause your reading to rise, which stresses you more and round and round it goes. You mentioned yoga and relaxation techniques so I'm sure your aware of this.

I recently change my diet and went through the unwell, drained and feeling hot thing too.
I droped my carb intake rapidly and I was fine for a couple of weeks felt great but then all of a sudden it was a different story.
For some people the body can object to the lack of carbs. Like a junkie going through withdrawal.

So you try to up your carbs to counter this and the body's not used to it so it spikes. :banghead:
I hope this helped, even just a little bit.
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