• Guest - w'd love to know what you think about the forum! Take the 2025 Survey »

Fatty Liver ? not only ND but also Keto can help..

The conclusion I see are
A 10 person study found that removing sugar and starch from the diet is effective in treating fatty liver in adults
A larger (n= ?) with children found that replacing sugar with starch is effective in treating fatty liver
More ways to skin the proverbial cat?
 
Lchf got rid of my fatty liver. Now back. But lchf gave me palpatations so I'm on 150g carbs unless in financial dire straights.
I only lose weight if.... No nuts, cream, pork scratchings or cheese.
And
Kicking out 5s and 6s only.

No matter how much insulin units.
 
Boo1979 said:
The conclusion I see are
A 10 person study found that removing sugar and starch from the diet is effective in treating fatty liver in adults
A larger (n= ?) with children found that replacing sugar with starch is effective in treating fatty liver
More ways to skin the proverbial cat?
Click to expand...
Indeed but as the title says its not only low calorie diets that can help... I'll also bet those 10 people are quite happy today...
 
Absolutely and as long as no one gets carried away on flights of fancy that this is “ groundbreaking” information that ‘proves’ the superiority of lchf, we’ll all be happy bunnies singing in (almost) perfect harmony from the same hymn sheet - now theres a scarey thought!
 
Boo1979 said:
Absolutely and as long as no one gets carried away on flights of fancy that this is “ groundbreaking” information that ‘proves’ the superiority of lchf, we’ll all be happy bunnies singing in (almost) perfect harmony from the same hymn sheet - now theres a scarey thought!
Click to expand...
No way that's ever gonna happen! :)
 
Boo1979 said:
Absolutely and as long as no one gets carried away on flights of fancy that this is “ groundbreaking” information that ‘proves’ the superiority of lchf, we’ll all be happy bunnies singing in (almost) perfect harmony from the same hymn sheet - now theres a scarey thought!
Click to expand...

I think that the study was however one of the first to use a "proper" human ketogenic diet to look at the effects on liver fat so in that sense it is "groundbreaking" as "proper" ketogenic diets are rarely looked at especially in rodent studies where the poor animals are fed on things that would probably kill us..

Boo1979 said:
Not really
Click to expand...

Similar but not the same.. Both are saying that ketogenic diets have an impact on liver health. In the pre surgery one the liver shrank and in the other the fat reduced (possibly also resulting in liver shrinkage?). Win win for the subjects' livers and health overall.
 
bulkbiker said:
Similar but not the same.. Both are saying that ketogenic diets have an impact on liver health. In the pre surgery one the liver shrank and in the other the fat reduced (possibly also resulting in liver shrinkage?). Win win for the subjects' livers and health overall.
Click to expand...
The study referenced is Sringer had significant differences in terms of
- the research question which was related to safety of a particular diet in preparation for bariatric surgery
- the ketogenic diet asessed was ‘nutritionally enhanced’ but it doesnt say what with
- food intake was gauged by the use of data from what we already know is notoriously inaccurate self report retrospective data
 
Boo1979 said:
The study referenced is Sringer had significant differences in terms of
- the research question which was related to safety of a particular diet in preparation for bariatric surgery
- the ketogenic diet asessed was ‘nutritionally enhanced’ but it doesnt say what with
- food intake was gauged by the use of data from what we already know is notoriously inaccurate self report retrospective data
Click to expand...

Surely the participants in the ND trials were self reporting what they ate?
 
What surprises me is that it took so long to 'discover' this. It's something anyone following a low carb diet will surely have noticed. I haven't read the link (not feeling well enough to concentrate on it ) Is there any reference to the fact that dietary fat does not cause fatty liver?
 
Let's remember the ND is a keto diet........ (Look at the number of grams of carbs per day, and the measured ketone levels reported in their early research papers.)
 
ringi said:
Yes, but people tend to correctly remember that they have had nothing to eat.
Click to expand...

Remembering and reporting are not quite the same thing.
 
My endo 4yrs ago told me carbohydrates caused fatty liver.
I proved him right.
I'm ready to get rid of my fatty liver again. Irrespective of no weight loss and additional palpatations. I hate having it.

In books I've read unless you get rid of fatty liver then weight loss not possible.

I'm happy to prove those authors right.
Just haven't had the energy lately but maybe as anaemia lifts so will my energy levels?
I just haven't had the energy or passion to selfishly buy strict low carb foods again.
Hoping anaemia was my only achilles heal.
 
Because of being a kind of guinea pig for my endocrinologist, before diagnosis I had issues and symptoms with along with other organ conditions. My fatty liver was a concern for my GP, as my weight continued to spiral upwards.
Since diagnosis, and eating very low carb, the weight dropped off, which improved my insulin resistance, circulating insulin, my liver and kidney function, my heart health and most importantly my fatty liver, all responded favourably to the change in lifestyle.
My endocrinologist was so surprised at the six stone loss, the change in my health and my control over my condition. Indeed, despite the urging from my endocrinologist, about complex carbs, he agreed and asked for data and my food diary to see for himself how I live comfortably and continually in ketosis.
My endocrinologist saved my life
Ketosis changed my life.
 
Back
Top