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Recently diagnosed, feeling alone, frustrated, confused and sad

Kiwi Erika

Kiwi Erika

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Type of diabetes
Type 2
Treatment type
Tablets (oral)
HI all,

I have recently been diagnosed with diabetes, told over the phone with no doctor follow up.
blood test result was 131

I saw a diabetes nurse who said because I have not been in a coma she guesses I have type 2, I was given the finger testing kit and told if your levels are over 25 then I (she) would call an ambulance that night I bravely (needle phobic) tested my levels and they were 25.9 but I felt fine. It has been 6 weeks now and I can not get into the normal sugar range, every week they seem to go down around 2 levels so 25-23, 13-11 etc. I was really happy to get 3 readings under 10 but then they shot up to 22.9 I cried and cried, apparently PMT or PMS can effect your levels has anyone else experienced this?

I am struggling to find 'good' foods to have especially for breakfast, my nurse said eat cheese or nuts when hungry .... there is only so much of these one can stomach!!! Egg's don't agree with my stomach and I was having a banana but have recently found they are not recommended to me.

The doctor finally saw me 5 weeks after my diagnosis after the pharmacist was concerned I did not know how to answer a few of their questions, I privately saw a specialist last week so I feel a bit better about that. I have had 2 appointments with my diabetes nurse now and feel that she is illequiped and unprofessional (no information given on diabetes, I was told to' google it', in both appointments she was eating cakes not told me 'you can't eat this it is evil)

I have had 3 months of thrush, fungal infections on my finger nails, I am tired all of the time, headaches and so grumpy ... I am over the top emotional and cry several times a day. My blood pressure has always been on the low side 110/70 and now it is 134/85!!!!!!!! I do not understand how your sugars levels should be high if you have not eaten but if you eat they get higher, so I try not to eat to much but then the medications gives me a sore tummy and the shits. I feel like I don't know which was is up, I have no normal anymore.


PLEASE I need some tips. advice and hope ... I just want to feel OK again
 
Hi @Kiwi Erika ,

Welcome to the forums, I will start by asking @daisy1 to give you the newbies info pack.

Until then, maybe you can help us to help you by telling us a little about your typical daily diet and activity levels.

From your post, is it reasonable to assume that you've been put on Metformin?

EDITED TO ADD,
For some interesting reading on PMS, take a look at this:-
https://www.diabetes.co.uk/periods-and-diabetes.html
 
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It sounds as if your last few months have been a nightmare, @Kiwi Erika. Have a virtual hug from me.

Well done on your progress so far. Getting your blood sugars from 25 to 11 is quite an achievement. As your blood sugars drop lower, your infections and your thrush will also get better.

Many of us have had similarly high blood sugar levels at diagnosis and have been able to get down to non-diabetic blood sugar levels and off all medications. I am tagging @Mbaker, who -- I believe -- had similar levels to yours at diagnosis. So, don't give up hope.

It seems that you are trying to eliminate carbs from your diet. There are plenty of things that you can have that won't raise your blood sugars too much.

For example:
Caesar's dressing, mayonnaise, butter, sauce Hollandaise (and other high fat, low carb condiments)
Full fat Greek yoghurt, whipped cream
All types of cheese
Steak, chicken, pork, lamb, fish and other seafood
Nuts (especially macadamias, almonds, hazelnuts, walnuts and pecans)
Asparagus, cauliflower, broccoli, eggplant, zucchini, bellpepper, cucumber, cabbage, tomato, mushrooms, celery, celeriac
A few berries (strawberries, blackberries, raspberries), but no tropical fruit.
High cocoa content chocolate (70 percent or higher, though I go for 85 to 90 percent).
Dry wine
Eggs are also good, but it seems you've had enough of them lately.
 
Hi,
Sorry you are poorly, my levels were like that. I started on meds and they have come down loads.
131 is very high, hope you feel better very soon.
How old are you, they should test you for type one by testing your GAD antibodies.
Take care
 
Kittycat_7_ said:
Hi,
Sorry you are poorly, my levels were like that. I started on meds and they have come down loads.
131 is very high, hope you feel better very soon.
How old are you, they should test you for type one by testing your GAD antibodies.
Take care
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Hi Kittycat,

how long did it take for your levels to come down? I was diagnosed on the 10 March and started Metformin the following day
I started on 1 x 500 mg twice a day and a week or two later it was increased to 2x 500 mg twice a day.

It is a really confusing illness to have as it is dependent on so so many things food, excersize, stress, colds etc
 
Kiwi Erika said:
Hi Glenn,
I have been over weight my entire life last July I was 128 kgs and I am now 105/106 ... I have a long way to go!
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To have lost 22kg in 9 months is excellent work. We don't want to hear any more of this guff about feeling sad. You actually are starting to appear like a person with a positive aspect. Don't worry, you won't be alone around here.

You will find that as you strip away more kgs your glucose levels will be easier to control. It is confusing at first and Daisy's list can be a little daunting until you get used to it. The most basic of advice will be to seriously reduce your intake of carbohydrates. Read your food labels. As a guide, I've reduced my weight by 18 kg, down to 88 from 106 and reduced carb intake to only 20g per meal or 30g if it is low GI. Even this is higher than some here accept. Testing immediately before meals and then two hours after will reveal how you react to various foods. It took me a couple of months to work it out but now I'm happy.

Keep plugging away and stay in touch with the board. Feel free to post anything you want. I have been helped immensely by the generosity of others here. One other thing, if you are taking Metformin please don't assume that it means that it makes up for poor food choices. These drugs work by moderating the release of sugar by the liver. They cannot account for what goes in your belly.

Glenn
 
@Kiwi Erika

Hello Kiwi Erika and welcome to the Forum :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and I hope you will find it useful. Ask as many questions as you like and someone will be able to help.


BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEW MEMBERS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
Take part in Diabetes.co.uk digital education programs and improve your understanding. Most of these are free.

  • Low Carb Program - it's made front-page news of the New Scientist and The Times. Developed with 20,000 people with type 2 diabetes; 96% of people who take part recommend it... find out why

  • Hypo Program - improve your understanding of hypos. There's a version for people with diabetes, parents/guardians of children with type 1, children with type 1 diabetes, teachers and HCPs.
 
Kiwi Erika said:
HI all,

I have recently been diagnosed with diabetes, told over the phone with no doctor follow up.
blood test result was 131

I saw a diabetes nurse who said because I have not been in a coma she guesses I have type 2, I was given the finger testing kit and told if your levels are over 25 then I (she) would call an ambulance that night I bravely (needle phobic) tested my levels and they were 25.9 but I felt fine. It has been 6 weeks now and I can not get into the normal sugar range, every week they seem to go down around 2 levels so 25-23, 13-11 etc. I was really happy to get 3 readings under 10 but then they shot up to 22.9 I cried and cried, apparently PMT or PMS can effect your levels has anyone else experienced this?

I am struggling to find 'good' foods to have especially for breakfast, my nurse said eat cheese or nuts when hungry .... there is only so much of these one can stomach!!! Egg's don't agree with my stomach and I was having a banana but have recently found they are not recommended to me.

The doctor finally saw me 5 weeks after my diagnosis after the pharmacist was concerned I did not know how to answer a few of their questions, I privately saw a specialist last week so I feel a bit better about that. I have had 2 appointments with my diabetes nurse now and feel that she is illequiped and unprofessional (no information given on diabetes, I was told to' google it', in both appointments she was eating cakes not told me 'you can't eat this it is evil)

I have had 3 months of thrush, fungal infections on my finger nails, I am tired all of the time, headaches and so grumpy ... I am over the top emotional and cry several times a day. My blood pressure has always been on the low side 110/70 and now it is 134/85!!!!!!!! I do not understand how your sugars levels should be high if you have not eaten but if you eat they get higher, so I try not to eat to much but then the medications gives me a sore tummy and the shits. I feel like I don't know which was is up, I have no normal anymore.


PLEASE I need some tips. advice and hope ... I just want to feel OK again
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Sad you didn’t take the chance to go to hospital and be treated by their specialists it is dangerous to go on a blood glucose of over 18 , if not going to hospital you need at least to push for an emediat meeting with your GP and tell him you need treatment a specification of which type of diabetes you have and some more support along you way here in the beginning until you learn to cope by yourself , try to eat less carbs, I really think you should go to the hospital with you very high level of blood glucose even when feeling “ fine” you are in fact in a dangerously high level , but alone because you are used to it the danger doesn’t go away

Are you really sure you are type 2 ?

Some people with type 2 also already have a damaged pancreas and this would sometimes mean that the person need adding insulin even when being type 2


You are eating very little , I’ll put in some links for delicious treats when I get home from the washing cellar. There are so many fine things one can in fact eat , peanut butter or cream cheese on celery sticks , Half a handfull of berries with cream , avocado is a great one with shrimps or a spoonful taco sauce, cherry tomatoes , eggplant slices with melted cheese on from the Owen kind of mini pizzas, you could also put on a slice of pepperoni
 
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Crocodile said:
To have lost 22kg in 9 months is excellent work. We don't want to hear any more of this guff about feeling sad. You actually are starting to appear like a person with a positive aspect. Don't worry, you won't be alone around here.

You will find that as you strip away more kgs your glucose levels will be easier to control. It is confusing at first and Daisy's list can be a little daunting until you get used to it. The most basic of advice will be to seriously reduce your intake of carbohydrates. Read your food labels. As a guide, I've reduced my weight by 18 kg, down to 88 from 106 and reduced carb intake to only 20g per meal or 30g if it is low GI. Even this is higher than some here accept. Testing immediately before meals and then two hours after will reveal how you react to various foods. It took me a couple of months to work it out but now I'm happy.

Keep plugging away and stay in touch with the board. Feel free to post anything you want. I have been helped immensely by the generosity of others here. One other thing, if you are taking Metformin please don't assume that it means that it makes up for poor food choices. These drugs work by moderating the release of sugar by the liver. They cannot account for what goes in your belly.

Glenn
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I'm a bit concerned with such heavy weight loss on levels of double figures.
You?
 
Freema said:
Sad you didn’t take the chance to go to hospital and be treated by their specialists it is dangerous to go on a blood glucose of over 18 , if not going to hospital you need at least to push for an emediat meeting with your GP and tell him you need treatment a specification of which type of diabetes you have and some more support along you way here in the beginning until you learn to cope by yourself , try to eat less carbs, I really think you should go to the hospital with you very high level of blood glucose even when feeling “ fine” you are in fact in a dangerously high level , but alone because you are used to it the danger doesn’t go away

Are you really sure you are type 2 ?
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I have to agree @Kiwi Erika.
Given a meter isnt common any more for type2s so I guess your type is in question.
Weight loss too is suspicious with such high levels of bg.
Have you received a definite diagnosis of you being a type2?
 
Kiwi Erika said:
HI all,

I have recently been diagnosed with diabetes, told over the phone with no doctor follow up.
blood test result was 131

I saw a diabetes nurse who said because I have not been in a coma she guesses I have type 2, I was given the finger testing kit and told if your levels are over 25 then I (she) would call an ambulance that night I bravely (needle phobic) tested my levels and they were 25.9 but I felt fine. It has been 6 weeks now and I can not get into the normal sugar range, every week they seem to go down around 2 levels so 25-23, 13-11 etc. I was really happy to get 3 readings under 10 but then they shot up to 22.9 I cried and cried, apparently PMT or PMS can effect your levels has anyone else experienced this?

I am struggling to find 'good' foods to have especially for breakfast, my nurse said eat cheese or nuts when hungry .... there is only so much of these one can stomach!!! Egg's don't agree with my stomach and I was having a banana but have recently found they are not recommended to me.

The doctor finally saw me 5 weeks after my diagnosis after the pharmacist was concerned I did not know how to answer a few of their questions, I privately saw a specialist last week so I feel a bit better about that. I have had 2 appointments with my diabetes nurse now and feel that she is illequiped and unprofessional (no information given on diabetes, I was told to' google it', in both appointments she was eating cakes not told me 'you can't eat this it is evil)

I have had 3 months of thrush, fungal infections on my finger nails, I am tired all of the time, headaches and so grumpy ... I am over the top emotional and cry several times a day. My blood pressure has always been on the low side 110/70 and now it is 134/85!!!!!!!! I do not understand how your sugars levels should be high if you have not eaten but if you eat they get higher, so I try not to eat to much but then the medications gives me a sore tummy and the shits. I feel like I don't know which was is up, I have no normal anymore.


PLEASE I need some tips. advice and hope ... I just want to feel OK again
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Hope this helps
https://www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb
 
Hi @Kiwi Erika you are having a roller coaster. My starting HbA1c was 134, so blood glucose was around 20 mmol/L, when normal should be 4 - 7 mmol/L (4 - 5.5 fasting) in the UK. The symptoms at these levels can be several being brain fog, tingling sensations, lethargy, eye problems, yeast infections, general feelings of doom and gloom.

Your body has already responded several times to the input it requires to begin healing with the drops you have experienced. Here's what I would do in your situation, some of which may work for you. I may have used some terms below that you are not familiar with, so just Google / Bing these
  • Eat twice a day with no snacking. This will challenge your "system" only 2 times with the additional carbohydrates your meals bring in. This will help with dropping your blood glucose. Try to keep to the same time each day, so that you can measure results and compare.
  • Have a tablespoon of Apple Cider Vinegar (raw organic if you can) with your meals (either cut with water or drink half a glass of water immediately as this is course and acidic)
  • Try to have 16 hours between your dinner and breakfast, with 6 to 8 hours between breakfast and dinner. This will give your body an opportunity to burn fat, particularly in and around the pancreas and liver. The purpose is improve the signaling and efficiency between these essential organs.
  • If you use a computer often, consider a standing position when using
  • Breakfast does not have to eggs only. How about, bacon, high meat sausages, tomato, lots of mushrooms with your eggs to mix things up. Or strawberries, raspberries, blueberries, 3 brazils, and around 5 of the following macadmia's, almonds, pecans, walnuts and hazelnuts, top off with 2 scoops of full fat Greek yogurt or fromage frais, with a sprinkling of assorted seeds (if your taste buds will accept mix in cinnamon, ginger and nutmeg into the dairy - I do this).
    • I would go straight to Keto levels of Low Carb High Fat (LCHF, so around 30 grams total of carbohydrates a day. This will have a profound impact on your HbA1c and fasting blood glucose. If you are on any medication other than Metformin - do not do this until you have asked more questions, as your blood sugar will drop like a stone on this protocol - very important not to ignore this
  • Breakfast can be cold meats, hot meats, the same for fish with varied salad or vegetables - "we" pigeon hole ourselves into certain foods, which on the whole have been just been marketed by vested interests.
    • For foods that are good for your condition like eggs, just put this in YouTube, Pinterest etc, you will get a myriad of ideas how to elevate these - there is so much it is overwhelming
  • Walk after each meal - this has been proven in both diabetics and non-diabetics to lower glucose spikes. This will help blood pressure also.
  • Set yourself some goals. Here's some thoughts:
    • HbA1c / Blood Glucose
      • Good control
      • Normal levels
      • Remission
    • Weight
    • OMAD ?
    • Visceral Fat
    • 5 k / 10 k....run / walk
    • Etc
  • When and if you feel comfortable look at exercise. This does not need to be Olympian, it can just be walking.
    • Do, do loads of quality squats as these are massive muscles and a well formulated squat engages a ton of other muscle groups
    • Static cycling is a good tool
      • 3 minute warm up
        • Sprint for 10 seconds (increase to 30 when you are fitter)
        • 1 minute rest
        • Repeat above 3 times (up to 5 when you are fitter). This helps drain glucose out of your system and is great for reducing visceral fat around the organs (also increases your V02 max)
      • Do some resistance HiiT exercises (5 to 10 minutes with no rests once you are used to this)
        • You can use light weights or body weight:
          • Weighted squat, into bicep curl, into shoulder press
        • Pushups, either from knees or full
        • Tricep dips
        • Front kicks around 50 (do not straighten knees fully)
        • Punches in a squat position (do not straighten elbows fully)
        • All the above with good stable form
  • Sleep at least 7 hours - this should not be under estimated. Not sleeping well increases insulin resistant, so your numbers will be higher during the day, it hinders fat loss and reduces cell repair
  • Reduce stress as much as you can, cortisol increases fat and has a similar effect to a lack of sleep - seriously try meditation it works
  • Add spices if you like them:
    • Cumin / Cayenne / Chilli / Black Pepper in particular
  • Remove potato, pasta, rice, fruit juices and added sugar
  • Remove vegetable oils, use and research cooking in:
    • Coconut oil
    • Avocado oil
    • Unsalted butter
    • Lard
    • Ghee
    • Olive oil (not mid to high level temperatures, but by adding butter you can go a little higher. Do not let this get to a smoking point)
    • Goose fat (basically any animal fat)
  • Keep a diary at least for a month of what you have eaten (if you can in a spreadsheet, you can use Google Sheets (I think it is called, if you don't have Excel). This will help your
    • The before eating blood glucose
    • The 1 hour number
    • The 2 hour number
    • Your mood
    • How full or otherwise you feel
    • Impact the next day on fasting numbers
  • Some names of interest to Google (more later)
    • Dr Jason Fung
    • Dr Zoe Harcombe
    • Nina Teicholz
Later I will send some pictures of meals, "we" definitely eat more varied and healthier as a family than before my diagnosis and I promise you it is not boring and includes afters.

Google Diet Doctor for recipes and below is a food list from this site (the areas in italics I believe should either be home made or have particular attention when you use, the options in bold and italic I would not use personally:

https://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/threads/a-few-asking-for-low-carb-food-lists.96321/

Beef Roast
Beef Steaks
Corned Beef
Ground Beef
Poultry
Chicken pieces, thighs, legs, wing, breast
Duck
Goose
Pheasant
Turkey: whole, breast, leg portions, or ground
Pork
Bacon
Ground Pork
Ham
Italian Sausage
Bratwurst sausages (lidl) great taste & normal sausage substitute.
Pork Chops
Pork Roasts
Pork Steaks
Pork Tenderloin
Sausages look for high meat content
Tinned Pork & Ham
Fish
Canned Salmon
Crab
Flounder
Herring
Salmon
Sardines
Scallops
Shellfish
Shrimp
Sole
Trout
Tuna Fish
Spices And Condiments
Chili Powder
Garlic Powder Garlic Salt
Horseradish
Onion Powder
Paprika
Parmesan Cheese
Salt & Pepper
Salad Dressings
Salsa
Soy Sauce
Vinegar
Worcestershire Sauce
Yellow and Brown Mustard
Low Carb Syrups and Sweetener

Non-Starchy Vegetables
Alfalfa sprouts (great on salads)
Artichoke
Asparagus
Avocado
Bean Sprouts
Bell Peppers (green, red, yellow, orange)
Bok Choy
Broccoli
Brussel Sprouts
Cabbage (Any)
Cauliflower (Great as rice or mashed potato substitute.)
Celery
Celeriac
Chickpeas
Cucumbers
Fresh Spinach
Flax seed (add to salads & things)
Flower sprouts
Garlic
Green Onions
Hot Peppers
Leeks
Lentils
Lettuce
Mushrooms
Okra
Mushrooms
Radish
Peas
Yellow Onions
Red Onions
Squash
Tomatoes/paste & Sun dried
Zucchini
Note; frozen is most the time better than fresh.
Fruit (most is ok, but best in small portions.)
with root veg those with an orange tinge to them eg carrots, sweet potato, swede are better that the white veg, but still have to watch portion size.

Fats / Oils
Bernaise Sauce
Hollandaise Sauce
Mayonnaise
Olive Oil
Peanut Oil
Sesame Oil
cooking spray
Coconut oil

Dairy and Non Dairy
Milk full fat.
Coconut milk
Cheeses (hard)
Butter/Ghee
Cream Cheese
Eggs
Heavy Whipping Cream
Heavy Cream
Sour Cream
Yogurt
Greek yogurt, plain, full fat.

Snacks and Other Goodies
Olives (black)
Peanut butter
Pork Scratchings
Dark Chocolate 70% or more Cocoa (Good when cooking)

Ryvita. (A good replacement for bread.)
lidl's Rivercote sesame crispbreads, ( lower carbs than Ryvita)
Tuc crackers
Nuts (that you like.)
Seeds
Chia seed (This thread shows the benefits of this magick like seed. http://www.diabetes.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/72819/
These little beauties can be added to almost anything, they can even be used as an egg substitute & thickening soups, sauces stews etc.)

Flax seed - similar to chia.
Cornflour (great for thickening & making yorkkie puds etc)
Almond flour
Coconut flour
Cinnamon
Oatmeal
Soya flour
Breads
livlife
Burgen linseed & soya - shop around prices vary from like £1.59 coop to £1 asda. And of course LIDL HIGTH PROTEIN ROLLS
Low Carb Tortillas,
The higher the fiber & lower the carbs the better.
Try to avoid wheat based products as much as possible, including cereals

Drinks
Bottled Water (Drink 2-3 ltrs/day
Coffee (decaf) unless you can tolerate normal
Tea (decaf) unless you can tolerate normal
 
You might be a bit overwhelmed with all the advice - but if you are as lucky as I am, just removing the high starch and sugar foods will mean that your blood glucose will go down, and you'll feel a lot better.
There are lots of low carb foods you can eat and enjoy, you don't need to think about losing weight or going out exercising, though as your BG levels fall you might find that you want to go out and do things.
Diabetes is all about being unable to cope with the amounts of carbohydrates considered healthy - I am quite happy with a limit of 50 gm as a maximum for each day, and I get normal levels.
 
ickihun said:
I'm a bit concerned with such heavy weight loss on levels of double figures.
You?
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Icki, if the weight loss was not targeted I'd tend to agree with you. However, the statement "I still have a long way to go" tells me that it was intentional. At 128 kg the kJ intake would need to be around 14,000 per day just to maintain weight. Losing 22 kg in 9 months requires about 600 g per week. This equates to a reduction in daily energy intake of about 3000 kJ. ( Based on 1 kg of fat is about 34,000 kJ of energy ). I think this is reasonable.

If it is not intentional then it means that carbohydrates are still way too high and the kidneys are working overtime to flush the sugar out with the accompanying natural feeling of being thirsty all the time and drinking lots of water. The inability to process the carbs as an energy source means that the ol' body has to start breaking down fat and protein reserves and thus the weight loss. If this is the scenario then it needs to be addressed promptly.
Glenn
 
Resurgam said:
You might be a bit overwhelmed with all the advice - but if you are as lucky as I am, just removing the high starch and sugar foods will mean that your blood glucose will go down, and you'll feel a lot better.
There are lots of low carb foods you can eat and enjoy, you don't need to think about losing weight or going out exercising, though as your BG levels fall you might find that you want to go out and do things.
Diabetes is all about being unable to cope with the amounts of carbohydrates considered healthy - I am quite happy with a limit of 50 gm as a maximum for each day, and I get normal levels.
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@Resurgam is right also, my post was extremely long where as hers was more succinct and easier to digest. There have been debates as to which someone seeking assistance should be given, and both have their merits. Anyway you have both ends, mine can always be come back to as your head might be spinning.
 
Crocodile said:
To have lost 22kg in 9 months is excellent work. We don't want to hear any more of this guff about feeling sad. You actually are starting to appear like a person with a positive aspect. Don't worry, you won't be alone around here.

You will find that as you strip away more kgs your glucose levels will be easier to control. It is confusing at first and Daisy's list can be a little daunting until you get used to it. The most basic of advice will be to seriously reduce your intake of carbohydrates. Read your food labels. As a guide, I've reduced my weight by 18 kg, down to 88 from 106 and reduced carb intake to only 20g per meal or 30g if it is low GI. Even this is higher than some here accept. Testing immediately before meals and then two hours after will reveal how you react to various foods. It took me a couple of months to work it out but now I'm happy.

Keep plugging away and stay in touch with the board. Feel free to post anything you want. I have been helped immensely by the generosity of others here. One other thing, if you are taking Metformin please don't assume that it means that it makes up for poor food choices. These drugs work by moderating the release of sugar by the liver. They cannot account for what goes in your belly.

Glenn
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thank you Glenn! I am trying really hard to make good choices and for the most part I am doing really well. I do get confused when I eat the same food say for breakfast and I get different results, the day after my first post I got a BSL of 8 I was SOOOOO happy but yet back to 15.9 first thing in the morning
 
Freema said:
Sad you didn’t take the chance to go to hospital and be treated by their specialists it is dangerous to go on a blood glucose of over 18 , if not going to hospital you need at least to push for an emediat meeting with your GP and tell him you need treatment a specification of which type of diabetes you have and some more support along you way here in the beginning until you learn to cope by yourself , try to eat less carbs, I really think you should go to the hospital with you very high level of blood glucose even when feeling “ fine” you are in fact in a dangerously high level , but alone because you are used to it the danger doesn’t go away

Are you really sure you are type 2 ?

Some people with type 2 also already have a damaged pancreas and this would sometimes mean that the person need adding insulin even when being type 2


You are eating very little , I’ll put in some links for delicious treats when I get home from the washing cellar. There are so many fine things one can in fact eat , peanut butter or cream cheese on celery sticks , Half a handfull of berries with cream , avocado is a great one with shrimps or a spoonful taco sauce, cherry tomatoes , eggplant slices with melted cheese on from the Owen kind of mini pizzas, you could also put on a slice of pepperoni
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I would have loved to have gone to the hospital! Believe me I would like to take every opportunity to learn more and feel better My doctors have their own diabetes nurse and therefore I can not use the hospital services, that is why I saw a specialist and am looking at new doctors (the nurse phoned and had a go at me yesterday for engaging with the specialist). I am really not sure of anything, the specialist has ordered some blood tests hopefully they will offer some answers
 
ickihun said:
I have to agree @Kiwi Erika.
Given a meter isnt common any more for type2s so I guess your type is in question.
Weight loss too is suspicious with such high levels of bg.
Have you received a definite diagnosis of you being a type2?
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The nurse said "because you have not been in a comma I am guessing it is type 2" and that was it, what do I need ot do to confirm if I am type one or two?
 
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