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Signed contract but now they want to do another medical before employment.

Turner90

Turner90

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I have recently been offered a position as a prison officer after a long vetting process (approx 6 months) I have signed the contract and sent it back. However they have just come back to me and said I have to pass the medical again before I can start the job. I have already handed my notice in at current employer so I am in a real mess.

Anyone else had this kind of issues with employers? What did you do to seek advice?
 
Turner90 said:
I have recently been offered a position as a prison officer after a long vetting process (approx 6 months) I have signed the contract and sent it back. However they have just come back to me and said I have to pass the medical again before I can start the job. I have already handed my notice in at current employer so I am in a real mess.

Anyone else had this kind of issues with employers? What did you do to seek advice?
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Did they know about your type 1 diabetes when you went for your first medical? If so they may just be wanting to check that you can keep it under control.
 
NoCrbs4Me said:
You say they need you to pass the medical again. Does this mean you already passed it once? Do you think you'll fail it the second time you take it?
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I had a face to face meeting with a Dr and he advised me I failed it due to my hba1c not being 59 or below.. However 2 weeks later I was given a start date and a contract to sign.
 
Terrytiddy said:
Did they know about your type 1 diabetes when you went for your first medical? If so they may just be wanting to check that you can keep it under control.
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Yes they knew and they have been given doctors notes and also blood test results.
 
Turner90 said:
I had a face to face meeting with a Dr and he advised me I failed it due to my hba1c not being 59 or below.. However 2 weeks later I was given a start date and a contract to sign.
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It's possible that they sent out the contract and start date in error, ie someone failed to notice to failed medical. If you were told you'd failed the medical then it would be odd for you to get the job offer and I think personally I'd have queried the offer
 
It is not a great situation to be in, but you should be aware that prison officers have to pass an annual fitness test. There may be all sorts of reasons why you have been asked to test again. If you want to know then ask the Prison Service, they are usually very honest, brutally so sometimes. If this is what you want to do then make it happen, show that you have good control of your diabetes. You will find great teams, hard work, a forces sense of humour and honesty, but they have no time for anyone who tries to make excuses, is bigoted or does not pull their weight, at least that is what I found when I worked temporarily for the Service. Good luck.
 
I don't know, obviously. But given you're passed everything else, and it's taken them a long time to vet you, I would imagine they would want to employ you, if they can.

So hopefully you can get your HbA1C down. Do you have Freestyle Libre? it is the best friend ever for getting it down.
 
Alison54321 said:
I don't know, obviously. But given you're passed everything else, and it's taken them a long time to vet you, I would imagine they would want to employ you, if they can.

So hopefully you can get your HbA1C down. Do you have Freestyle Libre? it is the best friend ever for getting it down.
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Yes I do freestyle libre. It's fantastic so fingers crossed this works.
 
Turner90 said:
I have recently been offered a position as a prison officer after a long vetting process (approx 6 months) I have signed the contract and sent it back. However they have just come back to me and said I have to pass the medical again before I can start the job. I have already handed my notice in at current employer so I am in a real mess.

Anyone else had this kind of issues with employers? What did you do to seek advice?
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Oooooh. I bet that all feels uncomfortable.

It could be useful to have a look here, and maybe give them a call: https://www.diabetes.org.uk/How_we_...1.2112953566.1527021738-2033675035.1526767621 They're more likely to be able to guide you on the legal position and what, if any, next steps you should be taking now.

Good luck with it all.
 
Turner90 said:
I have recently been offered a position as a prison officer after a long vetting process (approx 6 months) I have signed the contract and sent it back. However they have just come back to me and said I have to pass the medical again before I can start the job. I have already handed my notice in at current employer so I am in a real mess.

Anyone else had this kind of issues with employers? What did you do to seek advice?
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I think you will find it’s the time lapse between your first medical and time evolved you say it’s about 6 months from first medical. Sounds about right. As long as you feel fine and no ill effects so to speak! Don’t let it worry you, easily said than done. Stay calm! And it does help, deep breathing then relax.
 
You can get an estimated hbA1C from your freestyle libre. Also, when you have an hbA1C the results are weighted slightly in favour of the most recent blood sugars, so apparently (or so I've been told) you can skew things in your favour if you keep your blood sugars extra tight before the test.
A small number of people genuinely have inaccurate hbA1Cs (eg if their red blood cells last unusually long or short). If you think you're one of these try asking for a fructosamine test as well, which will average the last few weeks of blood sugars.

Good luck.
 
EllieM said:
You can get an estimated hbA1C from your freestyle libre. Also, when you have an hbA1C the results are weighted slightly in favour of the most recent blood sugars, so apparently (or so I've been told) you can skew things in your favour if you keep your blood sugars extra tight before the test.
A small number of people genuinely have inaccurate hbA1Cs (eg if their red blood cells last unusually long or short). If you think you're one of these try asking for a fructosamine test as well, which will average the last few weeks of blood sugars.

Good luck.
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I didn’t realise humans could get fructosamine levels done - my cat has diabetes too and his Lantus dosage is guided by fructosamine levels!
 
Hi Turner90, I think the prison service is so short of staff, as long as you meet there criteria for diabetics you should get in.
As a retired prison officer, I wish you well, it’s a funny old job but if you take to it you will be well rewarded.
Good luck. KPJ
 
Turner90 said:
I have done it!!! I finally start my prison officer training tomorrow. All medical completed and vetting completed.
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I hope you'll find it a wonderful job with the best colleagues! And don't forget the inmates. I have been on that side, and most of us are just like everybody else, happy to cooperate with anyone who'll see us as a person and listens to our problems, not so cooperative with the occasional a*****e :)
 
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