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Type 2 Shock At New Hba1c Level

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Wow you don't make it easy...do you really not like fat or do you just think its bad for you? Fat is a great way to fill yourself up so is quite useful when cutting carbs.
Veg replacements for pasta are good. Avocado, olives ? Salmon?
Stir fries are ok if made with green veg so spinach, broccoli.. cauliflower is a good replacement for mash and rice.
Cheese, cream, butter? All are staples of a low carb way of eating.

You'll probably find your tastes change as you cut out the stodge that you have been used to so never fear..

I have a really bad thing against animal fat I cant eat it or eat anything that has been cooked near it, I was veggie most my life hence the limited meat I do now eat, I only ate chicken breast for years but I have ventured into a bit of white fish and fillet steak, I will try to introduce other foods but I struggle with the meat as I really don't like it. My diet is based around carbs which is why this is going to be a difficult change for me. I am going to start intermittent fasting as of tomorrow. I do like veggie sausages and they seem to be low carb. Cauliflower rice could be a solution also. Thanks for your help
 
You have not mentioned testing your meals/reactions with a glucose monitor (sorry if I've missed it if you have). Testing after a high carb meal such as one with pasta will show you exactly what it is doing to your blood glucose levels.
 
I have a really bad thing against animal fat I cant eat it or eat anything that has been cooked near it, I was veggie most my life hence the limited meat I do now eat, I only ate chicken breast for years but I have ventured into a bit of white fish and fillet steak, I will try to introduce other foods but I struggle with the meat as I really don't like it. My diet is based around carbs which is why this is going to be a difficult change for me. I am going to start intermittent fasting as of tomorrow. I do like veggie sausages and they seem to be low carb. Cauliflower rice could be a solution also. Thanks for your help
Because you are not much of a meat eater why not have a look at the vegetarian forum on here for some good meat free recipes. I do wonder when you say you have had diabetes for 3 years and it is only recently you have been getting high levels how you were eating then to keep your levels down
 
Do you eat cheese?
I steam some cauliflower, put it in a dish and splodge on cream cheese, cover with grated red Leicester and then keep it warm until the cheese melts.
I also make huge salads, with oil and vinegar dressing to eat with eggs and cheese, or with fish.
Steak or chicken with mushrooms, tomatoes, courgette, and sweet peppers can't really be bettered for colour and flavour
 
Because you are not much of a meat eater why not have a look at the vegetarian forum on here for some good meat free recipes. I do wonder when you say you have had diabetes for 3 years and it is only recently you have been getting high levels how you were eating then to keep your levels down
Hi, I didn't drink for years until last year and that seemed to increase my HBA1C I stopped drinking again 10 months ago but my levels are still going up - 55 in March and now 72. I was medicated last September time on Metformin but still hasn't helped much. Thank I will have a look at the veggie forum, I am sure that will be beneficial to me as starting to eat lots of meat is not something I think I could do
 
Do you eat cheese?
I steam some cauliflower, put it in a dish and splodge on cream cheese, cover with grated red Leicester and then keep it warm until the cheese melts.
I also make huge salads, with oil and vinegar dressing to eat with eggs and cheese, or with fish.
Steak or chicken with mushrooms, tomatoes, courgette, and sweet peppers can't really be bettered for colour and flavour
I love cheese - yummy thanks that sounds lovely
 
You have not mentioned testing your meals/reactions with a glucose monitor (sorry if I've missed it if you have). Testing after a high carb meal such as one with pasta will show you exactly what it is doing to your blood glucose levels.
I do have a monitor I bought myself before I had an operation last year I will have to dig it out and start to test again, I am setting up on apps and things now so I can track my progress
 
Last night's evening meal was broccoli and cauli gratin with spicy sausage, a recipe which could so easily be adjusted to your taste. Try out the Dietdoctor website for hundreds of great ideas.
 
Thanks everyone, I have just had a really good cry, and now I am going to start a low carb diet, its going to be difficult as I don't really eat a lot of meat as I don't like meat and I am a choc & cake - a - holic, I also don't drink alcohol and I quit smoking 4 weeks ago. I just feel so depressed at the thought of giving up the foods that I love but I have to do something and it starts from now. Now I just need to decipher the low carb diets and decide how to go about that

You can do it. I found going cold turkey worked and my palette changed within two weeks. I really don’t crave sweet things any more and always have some Smints on hand or a small Diet Coke if I do fancy a sweet taste. Sounds strange but I find smelling things can satisfy my need to taste something sweet. My family are used to it now!
 
Your problem is half solved since you realise exactly those things which you ought to have done but left undone. Best of luck as you take steps to do that which is right.
 
Thanks everyone, I have just had a really good cry, and now I am going to start a low carb diet, its going to be difficult as I don't really eat a lot of meat as I don't like meat and I am a choc & cake - a - holic, I also don't drink alcohol and I quit smoking 4 weeks ago. I just feel so depressed at the thought of giving up the foods that I love but I have to do something and it starts from now. Now I just need to decipher the low carb diets and decide how to go about that
Hi @Nicel It is possible to follow low carb veggie plan (even easier when eating out if you do eat a bit of meat). Some of the forum members avoid all carb food (pasta, bread etc) and anything that resembles it, others like me, find replacements
there are lots of lower carb options for traditional high carb foods, I have put few ideas below. Don't be afraid of fat, it did take me a long time to get over my years (and years!) of low fat diet brainwashing, but it does help in keeping energy levels up and it doesn't slow/stop weight loss (yes really - I ate a full tub of clotted cream, massive chunks of cheese and a bag of nuts every day on a recent holiday and still lost weight). Agree with previous posters - eat to your meter (test to see what foods affect you).
  • mashed potatoes: mashed cauliflower or mashed celeriac work very well, add butter or splash of cream if doing LCHF. I like to add garlic and herbs.
  • Chips(UK) Fries (US):): celeriac works well instead of oven chips, or cut courgette into a fat chip shape and coat in egg and almond flour ‘batter’ and bake into a courgette fritter/chip
  • Dauphinoise potatoes: Celeriac works really well in place of potatoes, add plenty of cream, butter and garlic for a LCHF version.
  • Pasta: "pasta" quills - use courgettes slices into sort of chunks instead, steam or cook briefly in boiling water – don’t overcook or like pasta it will go mushy, serve with low carb sauce.
  • Small patty pan squash cut into quarters also work well, cook until just tender.
  • for fettuccini or tagliatelle – can use courgettes cut into thicker strips
  • for spaghetti - spaghetti squash is great when I can find it or can use courgette ( I use a julienne peeler much cheaper than a spiraliser ) but needs to be cooked gently or it will fall apart, I normally add to sauce to be warmed up
  • for cannelloni pasta tubes - I use aubergine slices rolled around the filling or leeks carefully sliced to open them into a sheet and then rolled around the filling .
  • for lasagne sheets - aubergine or courgette sliced lengthways or leeks folded all work well, don’t need precooking.
  • Bread - use nut flours instead of wheat flour, lots of recipes on forums such as oopsie bread or almond flour breads, I add a spoonful of ground flaxseeds to add fibre to the ‘bread’
  • Wraps – large lettuce leaves make great sandwich filling or burger holders
  • Crisps - melted cheese blobs is yummy
  • Nachos – use thick strips of raw pepper to serve guacamole ok not exactly the same but good altrnative
  • Gratin/breadcrumb topping - Almond or coconut flour instead of bread works great, add savoury seasoning such as herbs or garlic for gratin toppings etc as the nut flours can be a little sweet.
  • Crumble topping(UK)/ Cobbler(US) – use ground almonds instead of wheat flour for sweet crumble topping, fruits don’t need any extra sweeteners or sugar, add cinnamon and mixed spice for added sweet taste without needing sugar, serve with double cream for extra sweet taste.
Keep coming back to the forum, you will find support here :)
 
Oh the important bit ......chocolate!!! there are lower carb options if you shop around, but they might be something to avoid for a while if you dont have a huge amount of willpower ;)

I like Tesco Finest 85% dark Swiss choclate at 18.5%carb (18.5g per 100g bar, 2 square=3.7g carbs) or if pushing the boat out Hotel Chocolate

I also have a recipe for low carb chocolate cake, there are also recipes on dietdoctor
 
Oh yeah I like eggs as long as they are boiled or poached
What about omelettes? I had a really lovely cheese, bacon, onion, tomato and mushroom omelette for lunch today. That was probably over the top ...... and I would usually have only 2 fillings but a friend cooked for me today :)
 
@Nicel

Hello Nicel and welcome back :) Here is the Basic Information we give to new members and this will help to remind you of all sorts of useful information you saw four years ago. Ask as many questions as you want and someone will help.

BASIC INFORMATION FOR NEWLY DIAGNOSED DIABETICS

Diabetes is the general term to describe people who have blood that is sweeter than normal. A number of different types of diabetes exist.

A diagnosis of diabetes tends to be a big shock for most of us. It’s far from the end of the world though and on this forum you'll find well over 235,000 people who are demonstrating this.

On the forum we have found that with the number of new people being diagnosed with diabetes each day, sometimes the NHS is not being able to give all the advice it would perhaps like to deliver - particularly with regards to people with type 2 diabetes.

The role of carbohydrate

Carbohydrates are a factor in diabetes because they ultimately break down into sugar (glucose) within our blood. We then need enough insulin to either convert the blood sugar into energy for our body, or to store the blood sugar as body fat.

If the amount of carbohydrate we take in is more than our body’s own (or injected) insulin can cope with, then our blood sugar will rise.

The bad news

Research indicates that raised blood sugar levels over a period of years can lead to organ damage, commonly referred to as diabetic complications.

The good news

People on the forum here have shown that there is plenty of opportunity to keep blood sugar levels from going too high. It’s a daily task but it’s within our reach and it’s well worth the effort.

Controlling your carbs

The info below is primarily aimed at people with type 2 diabetes, however, it may also be of benefit for other types of diabetes as well.

There are two approaches to controlling your carbs:
  • Reduce your carbohydrate intake
  • Choose ‘better’ carbohydrates
Reduce your carbohydrates

A large number of people on this forum have chosen to reduce the amount of carbohydrates they eat as they have found this to be an effective way of improving (lowering) their blood sugar levels.

The carbohydrates which tend to have the most pronounced effect on blood sugar levels tend to be starchy carbohydrates such as rice, pasta, bread, potatoes and similar root vegetables, flour based products (pastry, cakes, biscuits, battered food etc) and certain fruits.

Choosing better carbohydrates

The low glycaemic index diet is often favoured by healthcare professionals but some people with diabetes find that low GI does not help their blood sugar enough and may wish to cut out these foods altogether.

Read more on carbohydrates and diabetes.

Over 145,000 people have taken part in the Low Carb Program - a 10 week structured education course that is helping people lose weight and reduce medication dependency by explaining the science behind carbs, insulin and GI.

Eating what works for you

Different people respond differently to different types of food. What works for one person may not work so well for another. The best way to see which foods are working for you is to test your blood sugar with a glucose meter.

To be able to see what effect a particular type of food or meal has on your blood sugar is to do a test before the meal and then test after the meal. A test 2 hours after the meal gives a good idea of how your body has reacted to the meal.

The blood sugar ranges recommended by NICE are as follows:

Blood glucose ranges for type 2 diabetes
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 8.5 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (adults)
  • Before meals: 4 to 7 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 9 mmol/l
Blood glucose ranges for type 1 diabetes (children)
  • Before meals: 4 to 8 mmol/l
  • 2 hours after meals: under 10 mmol/l
However, those that are able to, may wish to keep blood sugar levels below the NICE after meal targets.

Access to blood glucose test strips

The NICE guidelines suggest that people newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes should be offered:
  • structured education to every person and/or their carer at and around the time of diagnosis, with annual reinforcement and review
  • self-monitoring of plasma glucose to a person newly diagnosed with type 2 diabetes only as an integral part of his or her self-management education

Therefore both structured education and self-monitoring of blood glucose should be offered to people with type 2 diabetes. Read more on getting access to blood glucose testing supplies.

You may also be interested to read questions to ask at a diabetic clinic.

Note: This post has been edited from Sue/Ken's post to include up to date information.
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I love pasta its my favorite food so I will buy a spiralliser I think to make some out of veggies. I like Stir Fry and lentil cottage pie, I basically eat any vegetable or fruit and chicken breast, Fillet Steak with no fat on, bacon with no fat on and I can now eat a bit of cod as long as its fresh. Thank you :)
Oh yeah I like eggs as long as they are boiled or poached
I too love pasta and bread and I find low carbing difficult. The lowest I've managed is 80 carbs a day ..only last a few days I was really tired and hungry but on the plus side my FBG came down quite a lot in those few days :-)
 
I love pasta its my favorite food so I will buy a spiralliser I think to make some out of veggies. I like Stir Fry and lentil cottage pie, I basically eat any vegetable or fruit and chicken breast, Fillet Steak with no fat on, bacon with no fat on and I can now eat a bit of cod as long as its fresh. Thank you :)
Oh yeah I like eggs as long as they are boiled or poached
My Aldi store sells Soy Spaghetti, and I tried some and found it to be a good swapsie, The pack I got says it is made specially for Aldi, so not on general release it seems.
 
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