The bread I eat is 5 grams for two slices, so that would be 10 grams for four slices roughly.Would it matter if it was one slice or four slices?
I mean for BG testing to see how one reacts.
If testing a low carb cookie, does the volume matter to the BG spike?
the spike is affected by the amount of carbs you eat at one time.I mean for BG testing to see how one reacts.
If testing a low carb cookie, does the volume matter to the BG spike?
Yes.
There's going to be a big difference between having a biscuit after a low carb meal and having one on an empty stomach. And having four biscuits on an empty stomach will make make your meter have a nervous breakdown. This is why we count the carbs, the more carbs the higher the reaction.
Of course as we all differ, smaller portions of a higher carb food may make a difference.
the spike is affected by the amount of carbs you eat at one time.
Or more accurately, in my case, this why I don’t count the carbs, because I don’t eat any besides overground vegetables. Personally preferring to keep carbohydrate in exile than do deals with it all day every day where I’m always the loser. That’s just my personal choice of course, and everyone is free to make theirs
Did you ever count them, not even at the beginning? Not even if you were to come across something you had never had before? When I was first testing I tested everything and I tested portions, too. I still keep an eye on them though I no longer weigh foods. Each to their own. Btw, I do not have a sweet tooth so I do not eat biscuits, even low carb ones. I have read about carb creep so I prefer to test.
Oh god yes. Absolutely I used to count them! Experimented for about a year. It led me down a path of deprivation, depression and diabetes burnout. Only in exiling them completely with keto did I free myself from the shackles of weighing food and negotiating with a plate.
Additionally it’s also worth noting that in excess, for some people, protein also contributes to their overall glucose load, particularly over the course of time. It’s been said by some that a high protein diet is a high glucose diet. The body has no mechanism by which it can store unused amino acids, so excess will be converted to glucose or excreted by the kidneys. It’s not just carbohydrate that we need to watch. It was this realisation that enabled me to eliminate dawn phenomenon and finally get off my last 500mg of Metformin
As is often said here 'your mileage may vary'. I became underweight and decided that I had to raise the protein level in my diet along with the fats to stall weight loss and because of a different condition to guard against sarcopaenia. I am lucky in that I seem not to be as sensitive to protein as some people unfortunately are.
Counting carbs has become second nature but that does not mean taking food off my plate, I have not suffered burn out and in no way feel that carb counting is or has left me feeling miserable.
Oh god yes. Absolutely I used to count them! Experimented for about a year. It led me down a path of deprivation, depression and diabetes burnout. Only in exiling them completely with keto did I free myself from the shackles of weighing food and negotiating with a plate.
Additionally it’s also worth noting that in excess, for some people, protein also contributes to their overall glucose load, particularly over the course of time. It’s been said by some that a high protein diet is a high glucose diet. The body has no mechanism by which it can store unused amino acids, so excess will be converted to glucose or excreted by the kidneys. It’s not just carbohydrate that we need to watch. It was this realisation that enabled me to eliminate dawn phenomenon and finally get off my last 500mg of Metformin
Hi Jim, that's interesting about the protein. I follow lowish carb (60g) but do eat eggs, meat and far too many nuts (all protein). I do notice that my levels rise when I have eaten a protein only meal (not excessive amounts). The problem is, if I eat low protein and lowish carb, what's left????
I have fallen head over heels and I'm in a torrid affair with Pork shoulder joints at the moment. (I used to shun it pre-dox because in my 'mis-educated' opinion it had an unacceptable meat to fat ratio...little did I know)As is often said here 'your mileage may vary'. I became underweight and decided that I had to raise the protein level in my diet along with the fats to stall weight loss and because of a different condition to guard against sarcopaenia. I am lucky in that I seem not to be as sensitive to protein as some people unfortunately are.
Counting carbs has become second nature but that does not mean taking food off my plate, I have not suffered burn out and in no way feel that carb counting is or has left me feeling miserable.
I have fallen head over heels and I'm in a torrid affair with Pork shoulder joints at the moment. (I used to shun it pre-dox because in my 'mis-educated' opinion it had an unacceptable meat to fat ratio...little did I know)
I am also finding out that, protein and I are down like four flat tyres.
It neatly ties in which what Ben Bikman had to say about Protein.
According to him, Gluconeogenesis is demand driven and not necessarily supply driven.
Being as I do hard core Keto, It appears that I 'gat natting' to fear when it comes to 'ma proteeeeiiiin'
(No its not dopamine this time - I am in a freezing cold house, with builders hammering and sawing all around me installing a new boiler and God knows what else - life is too short to be miserable)
Ben Bikman's theory is the only explanation I have, for having, My fasting reading of this morning, PP reading of last night in the middle and the ketone readings. As you can see from these images.GNG may well be demand driven. In fact I’m sure it is, but that doesn’t change the fact that excess amino acids are either going to get turned into glucose or excreted in the urine. There is no mechanism with which they can be stored in the body without first converting to glucose so that de novo lipogenesis can convert the glucose to fat. The likes of Jason Fung and Tim Noakes hold this view so it’s definitely not a fairy tale. Perhaps it’s this “demand” for GNG that determines whether the protein is either turned into glucose, or excreted? Interesting. In the case of the former occurring, the measurable effect would be greatly determined by your current level of insulin sensitivity. In the case of the latter, some say that it’s damaging to the kidneys, although I have no opinion on that.
I’m not arguing of course. It’s cool if you can consume as much protein as you like. I just find the science of it fascinating