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Wot? HBA1c = 119!!!

thanks for this, I have drunk some water and will have some more....I have phoned 111. spoke to the 'nurse' (she said she was) who did not even know what HbA1c is! They asked me lots of questions, tick box like, categories, impossible to answer!...and a doctor will ring me back within the next 6 hours. That's nice. Its 00.51 hours. I hope I get some sleep tonight!!
Sorry! But far better safe than sorry. Scary that an alleged nurse on 111 didn’t know what hb1ac was. It’s your blood glucose of 27 that’s potentially scary tonight more than your hb1ac though. Hope you get some sleep and this passes without incident.
 
Did you double check the 27 reading?
How are you this morning?
 
Sorry! But far better safe than sorry. Scary that an alleged nurse on 111 didn’t know what hb1ac was. It’s your blood glucose of 27 that’s potentially scary tonight more than your hb1ac though. Hope you get some sleep and this passes without incident.

Well, I am still alive and kickin' ! Now 14.38. Eventually a young male doctor phoned me back, two hours later (I did not go to bed), and told him what had been going on. He said I could wait until Thursday (tomorrow) when I will go see my GP. We did a blood glucose test, pre-prandial today, and it was 17.8. The GP on 111 was very pleasant but sounded very young. I told him about my nightime foot and leg cramps - which are excruciating and EVERY night, and when I said could this be related to my diabetes, he said no. From research I have done, I think it COULD well be related to blood glucose levels, so I am not overly confident in his responses. Still, thank you very much for your advice. At least by ringing up i was reassured (and it would appear rightly) that I was not going to kick the bucket last night.
 
Well, I am still alive and kickin' ! Now 14.38. Eventually a young male doctor phoned me back, two hours later (I did not go to bed), and told him what had been going on. He said I could wait until Thursday (tomorrow) when I will go see my GP. We did a blood glucose test, pre-prandial today, and it was 17.8. The GP on 111 was very pleasant but sounded very young. I told him about my nightime foot and leg cramps - which are excruciating and EVERY night, and when I said could this be related to my diabetes, he said no. From research I have done, I think it COULD well be related to blood glucose levels, so I am not overly confident in his responses. Still, thank you very much for your advice. At least by ringing up i was reassured (and it would appear rightly) that I was not going to kick the bucket last night.
I’m glad you are well and the figures are improved somewhat today. Not sure I can say what I think of this particular dr though and his knowledge of complications. Hope your dr is better informed Thursday
 
When eating low carb I always needed to take a vitamin and mineral supplement and put a tiny tiny pinch of salt into my first mug of coffee for the day - I also added cinnamon, but for the taste - it might help, I don't know. I don't use salt in my cooking and salt is necessary, I also drink a mug of water first thing in the morning and last thing at night, also cramp avoidance ploys.
I have been eating low carb whenever I could get away with it for a very long time, all through various long hot summers, and so have developed a routine over the decades which I still stick to - now that we can have heat waves in February I need to keep to it year round, I think.
 
When eating low carb I always needed to take a vitamin and mineral supplement and put a tiny tiny pinch of salt into my first mug of coffee for the day - I also added cinnamon, but for the taste - it might help, I don't know. I don't use salt in my cooking and salt is necessary, I also drink a mug of water first thing in the morning and last thing at night, also cramp avoidance ploys.
I have been eating low carb whenever I could get away with it for a very long time, all through various long hot summers, and so have developed a routine over the decades which I still stick to - now that we can have heat waves in February I need to keep to it year round, I think.

Yes, well at the moment I am drinking quite a bit of water today. You know, a strange thing happens to me, --when I drink water after 9 pm, the next morning I get a splitting headache! NOT if I drink a cup of tea, but if I drink WATER. In the morning also, the back of my head and back of my neck feel sort of 'full of water'. It is hard to describe the sensation.. Weird isn't it?
 
Blood pressure has come down today though, ---the day before it was 140 (systolic), and then it was 133, and now it is 128. Pulse pressure 45. That's not bad. However sometimes blood pressure has gone down to 105 ! Very variable! Does anyone know what the relationship is between blood pressure readings, pulse, pulse pressure, and glucose level. I presume there must be one....?
 
@LionChild, yes, foot and leg pain can very much be symptomatic of glucotoxicity.
Cramp can however also be caused by lack of the right nutrients - I know my calves and ankles used to cramp quite often overnight when I was unknowingly suffering from malnutrition (due to undiagnosed coeliac disease)
 
I was diagnosed about a year ago with Diabetes, HBa1c 51, after 3 months, 52, 3 more months 57, 3 more months, after exercising 30 mins a day, totally changing diet, after attending Diabetes education group, I have just been informed I am HbA1c of 119 !!!

What is going on?!!

Cannot do more.
Whether its 30 minutes or 3 hours a day, exercise is great for general health, but short of intense and sustained exercise to an athletes standard, it will only scratch at the surface in actually reducing BS levels. Its all about diet and eating frequency. It is difficult to suggest anything as no details are given as to your actual diet before and after your diabetes education group.
 
Whether its 30 minutes or 3 hours a day, exercise is great for general health, but short of intense and sustained exercise to an athletes standard, it will only scratch at the surface in actually reducing BS levels. Its all about diet and eating frequency. It is difficult to suggest anything as no details are given as to your actual diet before and after your diabetes education group.

well before, my diet was not particularly bad, but not very conscientious either. In the past 6 months in particular though, I really eat healthily - lots of kale, spinach, green smoothies, broccoli, avocados, carrots, chicken, fish, (hardly ever red meat), carefully chosen cheese with low salt---cut out almost completely refined carbs, no chocolate, except rarely a small bit of dark with 70% cocoa solid.....30 mins exercise a day - yes, for a number of months... de-caf coffee,....BUT, sleep terrible, and problems with stress levels---forever...

Another issue, is quite sudden loss of weight...from 12st 12 Ib to 11st. 3 in less than a year, and without focusing on losing weight. I am only just questioning this, even though very good diet now, it is still a lot of weight for me to lose. I have mostly been overweight, and now my BMI is 25.3 which is only slightly overweight, and indeed a great improvment. 2 years ago I was 14 stone.
 
Cramp can however also be caused by lack of the right nutrients - I know my calves and ankles used to cramp quite often overnight when I was unknowingly suffering from malnutrition (due to undiagnosed coeliac disease)

Yes, I thought of this, and started taking Osteocare which has the right amount of calcium for a woman of my age. But this does not seem to have helped very much though I had been taking it for a number o months. I have stopped now. I also read that calcium tablets may not be as good for me as I once imagined, so I have now just go Vitamin D (vitobiotics) and Specifically magnesium tables (by vitobiotics). I am holding off for a bit thought because my diet is so good I cannot imagine why I need this supplements, and are they really that good for us. I would have thought that I am getting what i need from the food i eat....

My feeling is, and I may be wrong, that this leg cramp, weight loss, feeling faint, even a little nauseous at times to the point that I feel unsafe especially when out and about, is something more directly related to the diabetes.........in some way.
 
Green smoothies?
Those easy to digest drinks full of carbs from 'healthy' foods?
I bought a super blender just before diagnosis, and even blitzing salad stuff showed that it was a bad idea.
At my education sessions we were told that baked potatoes and beans was a good choice for lunch, so it must be really easy to go down the wrong path.
I can only suggest you send off for a blood glucose meter, then start to test the meals you eat to check that you are not getting too many carbs.
There is no such thing as a good carb, telling you to eat baked potatoes and (presumably) baked beans for lunch is astonishing. A medium size baked potato will have about 36 g of carbohydrates of which 3 g will be pure sugar. One serving, about 1/2 can, (and who has one serving) of baked beans will have another 26 g of carbs, of which 10.3 g will be pure sugar. Your lunch, if its limited to just that, would be amount about 15 teaspoonfuls of sugar, of which 4 teaspoonfuls will be pure sugar and immediately released into your blood stream.
There is nothing wrong with putting green vegetables in a blender, but try not to blitz them too much so that you preserve the fibre. Vegetables have very little carbs and the fibre should counteract the sugar content. Vegetables are important because that is where you get your mineral nutrients. Blending them is an easy way to have a lot of vegetables at one sitting, and people need a lot of vegetables, without the laborious task of eating salads at every meal. They should have little impact on your BS levels unless you are adding juice with them instead of just water.
 
120 mg/dl = 6.7 mmol/L Apologies if I'm just repeating another message.

Well I am expecting my gp to want to put me on metformin when I go to see her tomorrow, which drug career I did not want to pursue. It often seems to get very complicated when one thing affects and nother and round and round we go trying to find a better answer. Your journey seems very interesting. I wonder how you actually feel?
You mention a nutritionist suggest low carbs - is that idea only a recent one then---I thought it was supposed to be major part of the answer, but you say you were diagnosed in 1997 --that is a long time ago. I am wondering what the recommendations were then, how much they knew, and presuming they know more now about the best way to treat diabetes?
 
There is nothing wrong with putting green vegetables in a blender, but try not to blitz them too much so that you preserve the fibre. Vegetables have very little carbs and the fibre should counteract the sugar content. Vegetables are important because that is where you get your mineral nutrients. Blending them is an easy way to have a lot of vegetables at one sitting, and people need a lot of vegetables, without the laborious task of eating salads at every meal. They should have little impact on your BS levels unless you are adding juice with them instead of just water.
I bought a Nutribullet just before diagnosis and found that even blending lettuce and a tomato made a drink which spiked me - yet I can eat a huge salad and get an increase of 1mmol/l. It is, perhaps, the breaking up or open which gives my digestion easy access - I seem to have a very efficient gut, as I did sometimes wonder if I could digest cellulose, to judge from the sarcastic comments of the dieticians I have encountered, who accused me of all sorts of errors in my unsuccessful attempts to lower weight under their direction.
 
well before, my diet was not particularly bad, but not very conscientious either. In the past 6 months in particular though, I really eat healthily - lots of kale, spinach, green smoothies, broccoli, avocados, carrots, chicken, fish, (hardly ever red meat), carefully chosen cheese with low salt---cut out almost completely refined carbs, no chocolate, except rarely a small bit of dark with 70% cocoa solid.....30 mins exercise a day - yes, for a number of months... de-caf coffee,....BUT, sleep terrible, and problems with stress levels---forever...

Another issue, is quite sudden loss of weight...from 12st 12 Ib to 11st. 3 in less than a year, and without focusing on losing weight. I am only just questioning this, even though very good diet now, it is still a lot of weight for me to lose. I have mostly been overweight, and now my BMI is 25.3 which is only slightly overweight, and indeed a great improvement. 2 years ago I was 14 stone.
I lost 15lbs in just under one month. The fact that it took you a year is the surprise on your diet. Once you move away from a carb diet, you will lose weight whatever your reasons for dieting. Your diet does sound good, the 'green smoothies' bother me because you are distinguishing them from the kale and spinach. What else are you adding to that smoothie. Although I have not converted to a keto diet, the indications are that it is very effective at lowering BS levels, but they recommend low carbs and high fat, not low fat. Your body needs both fat and salt to function properly and to process the fats within you. This very high reading, was it a proper blood test, which measures your average BS level over 2 to 3 months, or was it on a standard home glucose monitor. Eratic and insufficient sleep over a prolonged period is known to cause/contribute to insulin resistance. If you tested yourself 1st thing in the morning you may naturally have a high reading because your body will have dumped sugar into your system just before you are due to wake up to give you the energy you are going to need to start the day.
 
@LionChild

Leg and foot cramps at night are often a symptom of magnesium and/or potassium and/or salt deficiency.
Magnesium spray has helped a lot of members on this forum.
You say you eat low salt, but on a restricted carb diet you do need extra salt. The majority of people are not salt sensitive. In other words salt in the diet does not increase blood pressure for these people. I am one of them.
When you have your blood tests, do they do the full range including a kidney function test? If so, your potassium and sodium levels will show on that. Perhaps you could obtain your last results and see what it says? You can phone your surgery reception and ask for a print out. Alternatively you can enquire if your surgery puts test results on line as all surgeries in England are supposed to do (although not all do). If yours does, then you can ask how to register for this service.
 
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I bought a Nutribullet just before diagnosis and found that even blending lettuce and a tomato made a drink which spiked me - yet I can eat a huge salad and get an increase of 1mmol/l. It is, perhaps, the breaking up or open which gives my digestion easy access - I seem to have a very efficient gut, as I did sometimes wonder if I could digest cellulose, to judge from the sarcastic comments of the dieticians I have encountered, who accused me of all sorts of errors in my unsuccessful attempts to lower weight under their direction.
One medium tomato represents just over 6g of carbs, most of which is sugar. If you are putting in more than one tomato than that might be an issue. Tomatoes are fruit and their sugar is in the form of fractose which is managed, poorly, by your liver, not your pancreas. If you regularly juice with tomatoes the fractose prevents the body from using up its far stores and defeats the object of a low carb diet. When eating a salad, rather than a juice it would be unusual to have more than one tomato at a time. If you are looking for something to sweeten the lettuce juice, try 1 small beetroot. It's similar to a tomato in nutrients but you don't need more than one in the blender to sweeten the lettuce and the carbs are processed by your gut and pancreas in the regular way and doesn't interfere with your low-carb regime.
 
One medium tomato represents just over 6g of carbs, most of which is sugar. If you are putting in more than one tomato than that might be an issue. Tomatoes are fruit and their sugar is in the form of fractose which is managed, poorly, by your liver, not your pancreas. If you regularly juice with tomatoes the fractose prevents the body from using up its far stores and defeats the object of a low carb diet. When eating a salad, rather than a juice it would be unusual to have more than one tomato at a time. If you are looking for something to sweeten the lettuce juice, try 1 small beetroot. It's similar to a tomato in nutrients but you don't need more than one in the blender to sweeten the lettuce and the carbs are processed by your gut and pancreas in the regular way and doesn't interfere with your low-carb regime.

Where do you get the information that a medium tomato is over 6g of carbs? Is the fibre included in your total?
According to all the information I have, a raw tomato is 3% carb. Juiced tomatoes maybe a different matter.
 
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