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Fruits

Chippy 63 said:
Which fruits are the best as my nurse says one thing and dietitian says another
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It depends entirely what your priorities are, and how much carbohydrate you want to eat.

I agree that type of diabetes and the way it is treated would be very useful to know - so that we can offer answers that suit your situation.

As examples,
You may be a type 1, using insulin, and eating at the higher end of low carb (say 130g of carbs)
Or you may be a type 2 diabetic, who needs to eat fewer than 20g of carbs a day to control blood glucose without medication.

If the former, then you can probably eat a few portions of any fruit you like.
If the latter, then a few berries may be all you can fit into your carb quota.

In my opinion, the less commercially selectively grown the fruit is, the better. And if you want to keep carbs low, then the sharper and more berrylike, then the less sweet carbs there will be.
The dietdoc link that @Antje77 posted is excellent.
 
miahara said:
Here's a general guide to carb levels in fruit.View attachment 33233
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A bit shocking to see blueberries have similar level of carbs as apples and pears. I allow myself blueberries occasionally (basically the only fruit I eat) but tend to eat the whole package in one go. No wonder :-D They are actually quite sweet ... I should try raspberries and blackberries instead.
 
michita said:
A bit shocking to see blueberries have similar level of carbs as apples and pears. I allow myself blueberries occasionally (basically the only fruit I eat) but tend to eat the whole package in one go. No wonder :-D They are actually quite sweet ... I should try raspberries and blackberries instead.
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Try strawberries they are fairy low carb and taste sweet and are currently in season.
 
For those with resistant diabetes, fructose is the elephant in the room when it comes to fruit. You can measure what the glucose does to your blood, but you can’t measure what the fructose does to your liver.
 
miahara said:
Here's a general guide to carb levels in fruit.View attachment 33233
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I love raspberries, so delicious and blackberries too, but not overly keen on strawberries. I have two raspberry bushes in my garden and I can't wait until I get my first berries this year.
 
michita said:
A bit shocking to see blueberries have similar level of carbs as apples and pears. I allow myself blueberries occasionally (basically the only fruit I eat) but tend to eat the whole package in one go. No wonder :-D They are actually quite sweet ... I should try raspberries and blackberries instead.
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Check the packet - that value for bluebarries might be accurate for some strains, but the ones I eat are about the same as raspberries.
 
Jim Lahey said:
For those with resistant diabetes, fructose is the elephant in the room when it comes to fruit. You can measure what the glucose does to your blood, but you can’t measure what the fructose does to your liver.
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Something I had to explain to a PhD Registered Dietitian recently on Twitter .. much to my surprise...although he still hasn't replied... and he's allegedly a low carb advocate..!
 
@Jim Lahey

Would you explain, or post a link, regarding the effect of fructose on insulin sensitivity, please? I read a post, possibly of your's, mentioning the negative effect of fructose and would like to learn more.

I feel it could be of benefit to this thread, of course

Many thanks
 
Energize said:
@Jim Lahey

Would you explain, or post a link, regarding the effect of fructose on insulin sensitivity, please? I read a post, possibly of your's, mentioning the negative effect of fructose and would like to learn more.

I feel it could be of benefit to this thread, of course

Many thanks
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I’m afraid I do not. The majority of my musings come from reading books and listening to podcasts, but the link posted by @bulkbiker is very informative. In turn, hepatic fat deposition increases both systemic and hepatic insulin resistance by restricting the liver’s ability to readily convert unneeded glucose into fat for safe storage. In doing so, the glucose begins to ‘backup’ in the system and the whole body becomes engorged with it, further reducing insulin sensitivity. That’s my rudimentary understanding at least. I’m very sure it’s far more complicated than that.

Some will think I sound like a broken record on this subject, but it can’t be stressed enough that measuring blood glucose after eating fruit only tells half the story. It doesn’t tell you the incremental increase in insulin resistance caused by fructose, which in itself does not generally increase blood glucose unless the body already has a requirement for it. That is incredibly unlikely in a diabetic who has also just consumed the glucose portion of the fruit.

It’s also worth remembering that glucose doesn’t taste sweet. The sweetness in foods comes from fructose, including its 50% component part of sucrose (table sugar). If something tastes sweet, and isn’t an artificial sweetener, it’s because it contains fructose, which as described above, is to be viewed with caution by anyone with a propensity to be resistant diabetic.
 
@bulkbiker and @Jim Lahey

Many thanks for your post and link. I'll have a good look at both and try to understand more about this aspect. Certainly puts another slant on the encouragement of eating fruit re Type 2
 
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